Second chart suffering Thread

Here are the rules:
>No characters from the first chart
>No vidya memes, creators or e-celebs
>Provide and image for the character you want to post and state the name of the character and the game its from
>Write a brief explanation about what your character does and why it would fit in that particular slot since I don't know every character out there
>S0-D0, S100-D0, S0-D100, and S100-D100 will be filled in last. Feel free to post who you think would fit in any of those slots, and a strawpoll will determine who gets what slot

Please discuss the spots of certain characters by the way, being as accurate as we can would be best.

first for my S0 D0 contender Tachanka

General Lee Oliver
Fallout New Vegas
10 to 15-S
80 to 90-D
>Glory hogging arm chair general in a bureaucratic goverment
>Accepts bribes from rich assholes living comfortably while refusing to pull out of Vegas while his men get slaughtered by the Legion
>Doesn't let Hanlon or the rangers do their job and even tries to get them all killed just so he can look good
>Steals your glory at the damn if you help him
>Only amount of suffering is if you go Vegas and throw him off the damn

previous

Is OP even gonna see this thread?

>Sup Forums's definition of suffering
>I stubbed my toe
>Mum didn't get me Chic Fil A

Only this could explain why Adrian Andrews is at 90 and Interactive Buddy is below her.

S:15
D:65

>Robs a bank
>Kills people while doing so
>Takes their extremely expensive items
>Gets away with it
>Is probably plotting to take over the Wizard's Tower
>Tries to steal from motherfucking Santa Claus by straight up using you
>Makes off with shit tons of cash anyways by selling the coal in the GE

>Kills children
>Assaults women
>Steps on puppies
>Monster Army invades pretty much every country at once.
>Have a magic sword that is one of the few ways of even hurting the various Demon Lords.
>Have to watch friends and allies die and get raped to death.
>Waifu (on the chart at 85,5) gets a "shotgun abortion"
>Goes berserk and obtains the power/mantle of the Demon King from a little girl who he rapes/brainwashes before hand.
>Uses his power to end the current war, but years later in a fit of rage/bloodlust conquers the entire world. Raping and killing thousands.
>Spends years fighting urges to commit genocide and other horrors which come part and parcel with his new power/role, and manages to maintain some sense of sanity through sheer willpower whereas the previous Demon King would go crazy after a few days without drugs. Every now and then faltering and committing the occasional atrocity.
>After a time skip, the game shifts to being about a party consisting of his own children who are sent to kill him.
>Unless the player can get the best ending, he ends up slaughtering many of them.
>Gets cucked by one of his sons.

I know Rance has been on pretty much every one of these, but the most recent game makes him get the suffering he deserves.

I'd put him at 60 suffering 70 deserved it.

S: 65
D: 20

Sergei Dragunov: Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection

Successful Spetsnaz whose involvement in the Tekken storyline by army orders makes him start getting stains in his record, being beaten by ancient (sometimes hereditary) demons, corporate conglomerates, and cyborg ninjas. Gameplay-wise, one of the best fighters on the roster with solid execution and lots of oppressive moves.

Also, his fashion's sweet. He certainly doesn't deserve the stuff he gets (but hey, at least he's not Paul or Marshall).

Otus
Owlboy
S: 65
D: 20
>Training to be a guardian
>Constant fuck-up who gets berated by his instructor and chided by the village
>Tries his damnedest to make a positive difference only to either end up being entirely unimportant or making everything worse
>Dies after almost fucking up the ritual to keep the world from being destroyed
>Only gets any semblance of comfort in the afterlife
>post-game implies that not only did Otus die but the world is stuck in an infinite loop and his actions, along with everyone else's, are futile

Hawkeye Gong from patapon
S - 65
D - 20

>Be a leader of a prosperous race, the zigotons
>ooga booga patapons come around and start massacring zigotons so they can get to "earthend" a place that may or may not be a fairy tale
>watches his friends slowly die out as he questions their motives, tells them that the end of the world is the only thing at earthend
>patapons eventually turn the zigotons into a slave race

>gets revived in 2
>watches as the souls his once dead generals get misshapen into demons
>force to side with the patapons to end their suffering
>the patapons probably wouldn't have helped if the demons werent in their way

>in 3, the patapons unleash the archfiends after thinking they got to earthend
>gong lost all his memories as the archfiend of greed turned him into a demon that could think of nothing but rare items
>eventually gets his memories back, is once again forced to help the patapons fix a problem they started

20 on deserving because he was a war leader, and killed a decent amount of patapons before the events of the first game
But the patapons are still absolute niggers and Gong shouldt have had to put up with their "muh earthend" shit

let OP take a break

Think I need a rundown on why the council of loathing deserves so much suffering.

I'm still here, I wish the thread wasn't made right away but it's too late for that now. I'll just keep working on the chart & try to catch up as best as I can.

Since this thread is around now can someone do me a solid & make a pastebin link of all the people who suggested to be in a corner for the strawpoll later. Joke characters, waifus & all. Here are all of the previous threads:

Oh okay I'll just repost my post from last thread then

S: 75
D: 85
The Space Pirates from Metroid are a race of megalomaniacs obsessed with becoming the strongest race on the galaxy and they're pretty big dicks about it
However shit almost always goes comically wrong for them going from science experiments on themselves horribly maiming them, crashlanding on a planet where almost everything wants them dead, being mind controlled by a cosmic horror, losing one of their homeworlds to the feds and just generally having to deal with shitty superiors who would feed you to the lab rats if you so much as disobey

Put DrYado at
S: 20
D: 100
>Causes the apocalypse for his sick fantasies
>kills his wife so he can fuck his own daughter after fucking up her adoptive dad
>mutates people into monsters using drugs

Lemme know when he's added

Did you also write the names and series of all the characters in the chart so far on wordpad or something? I might do that, could be nice to have a list of everyone at the end so people can look up characters they don't recognize

Already done.

I have not.

Repeating the call for El Presidente
>S15
>D45

Oh, my bad, I missed him.

>he wasn't even the game's titular character
What an eternal screwup

Repeating for Kiryu-chan just incase

S:65
D: 20

>implying the misfortunes of Tropico aren't due to the nihilistic ways of the rebels and the instability of the global economic market
Juanito pls go

Explain the deserved part to me.

Michel Bollinger
The House in Fata Morgana
S:100
D:10
>Lives majority of his life isolated in broken down mideval mansion with an invisible crazy ass witch
>Is humiliated by Family and disowned for having no genitals
>Starved to near death thanks to slut that fucked both his brothers
>Finds qt Gf that unconditionally loves him, finds out father that wanted him dead raped her
>Mother sends holy Knights including his brother whom he respected and believed to care for him to kill him
>Sacrifices himself for Gf, gets killed by brother, than forced to watch while in purgatory as Brother crucifies him in front of Village.
>Spends forever in purgatory before being returned to shit mansion
>shown horrible stories about shitty people who arguably deserved what they got
>is forced to save horrible people in order to free himself and Gf from being stuck in purgatory forever

Definitely top-tier contender for a hard life

He's a dictator who can kill political dissidents and rig elections.
He's relatively benevolent (depending on how you play), but still a dictator.

really unfortunate that the best way to play is to be a benevolent dictator, desu. It's really difficult to play as a malevolent dictator.

Nah, you gotta pump that slush fund for the best score. So the best way to play is to always ride that line.

Oersted from Live A Live

Basically gets cucked/NTR'd, then the girl he loves commits suicide. This is after his kingdom betrays him, his comrades die, and his best friend betrays him and fucks his love interest, leading the first part of the spoiler.

I'd say S90-D35. Would have put suffering in the 80-90 range with deserving being 30-45, but it doesn't seem to be any room there.

Nigga look at top

He was one of the first people added, and he was actually suggested again after that.

Good taste though

why does this guy deserves 85 suffering according to OP?

Oops. Actually ashamed I didn't see him since he's so apart from everything else due to all the empty space.

Suffering 100
Deserve 0

Max suffering is actually better than what I said. Maybe 95. Though definitely lower the deserved part, he really didn't do much wrong before the fact. Afterwords, though, is another story.

I think the first time he was suggested it was mentioned that most of what he did to deserve it was a direct result of his suffering

Update. I think I'm caught up, repost ones I missed & be mindful of how spots are already taken up on the left (that might be why they aren't on the chart by the way).

was the original post to mention him, this was done before I took over. I put him down to what suggested since the user from last thread wanted him at D5 so I assume he didn't do nearly enough to warrant that 75.

I don't know man, he suffered a a ton but he does get a pretty damn happy ending overall. I would say replace him with one of the characters between D:0 S:80 to D:0 S:90.

Oh yeah explanation
His father's killed when he's 5
He gets sold into slavery at 5
Escapes at 16
Finds a wife
Him and his wife get turned into stone for 10 years right after their children are born
He's not even the chosen one

Yeah, all the suffering happens before he does anything to deserve it. Basically he gets revenge in his own twisted way. I suppose it's up to the eye of the beholder.

Seconded

Great choice.

put him besides the girl that summons demons to kill bullies

Why are Ranger and Shephard so high in suffering?
Also, Richter for S:35-45 D:15
>Has only his ill mother, who he needs to care for.
>Suddenly gets his car torched and has to start risking his life under threat of death for both.
>Ends up getting fucked over.
>When he finally manages to run away he dies a meaningless death.

He also spends whole game trying to find his mother just to watch her die in front of him

Oh yeah that too
Hero had a hard life

>Ranger
>Shepard
Also Richter is on the first chart.

Last one for Yakuza
S:100
D: 10
>grow up half Japanese girl post ww2 china with no dad
>her and her brother literally get spit on have shit flung on them in public
>brother fucks off to japan leaving her and her mom alone
>her mom and her find out they can get Japanese citizenship through a family member
>said family member fucking hates them
>get abused for being half Chinese in Japan
>basically burns all of her Chinese roots and tries to become 100% Japanese to appease her family and the bullies
>mom kills herself out of shame
>working as a live-in hostess for a short while to pay for rent
>gets conned and sold off to sexual slavery
>get raped and beaten so hard for years on end she literally goes blind from the trauma
>gets freed finally after rival gang raids the people holding her one of the guys retires and takes her in
>works as a nurse for a bit
>earlier mentioned relative dies and leaves her the deed to a small plot of land
>said plot of land is literally the corner stone to a 100+ billion yen deal for the yakuza
>every yakuza in tokyo is trying to have her killed
>the guy keeping her shelter gets killed in the crossfire
>her brother realizes shes in tokyo and tries to look for her to save her
>he dies literally moments before reuniting with her and she's left with the corpse

Yeah, that sounds like a good spot

fuck forgot pic and some other stuff
>tries to go reason with the yakuza hunting her
>if she gets the head of the man who killed her brother she'll give them the deed
>they just shoot her anyways
>is put into a coma she might never wake up from

the only relief is she lives and even recovers from her blindness

S: 100
D: 75-80

Suffering:
Angel whose sole purpose is to guard a small town
Falls in love with a resident
Watches a foreign army kill his beloved and destroy the town he is meant to guard
he and his friends are imprisoned for all eternity until he is driven insane

deserve:
Escapes from prison and kills god in the process
Stops all other celestrians from achieving their destiny of ascending
Unleashes demons, monsters, and plagues on all of the mortals
Resurrects the evil army as monsters to kill all mortals
About to end the world, hero is powerless to stop him in the end until his love comes back as a ghost

how about haydee for S:30 / D:15?
Programmed to search a facility full of its dead predecessors for its "master."
Is known more as fetish fuel than a actual game "character"

That fucker has D 100. Had to restart the entire game because I picked the wrong jobs and couldn't beat his fight.

Not a shitpost, I swear. Druids from the Mystery of the Druids.
S: 50
D: 80
A cult of crazy wizard guys who engage in sacrificial rituals (often costing them their lives), they want to take over the world by transferring their abilities into a group of infants that also engage in sacrificial rituals (with the MC's girlfriend being a prime contender). Also they brainwash people by making them eat human flesh.

>kills God, fucks up heaven, and forces the MC to sacrifice his immortality
>not D100

I thought putting him in a corner was a little extreme but if you guys say so

should we start nominating characters for the corners?

Update. On the smaller side since the thread has slowed down.

How about S95 D35?

No, we should do that when we're nearing the end. I want Whacka from Paper Mario to be top left.

S: 70
D: 90

suffering - 95
deserved - 10
>lost his father at a young age
>went through a massive depression causing his mother to move their family away from home
>lives his life on the streets for the majority of his youth and sleeping in his friend's garage

On the first chart

D: 100
S: 35
Zone of the Enders - Nohman
Military researcher working on a solar system destroying superweapon. Gets exposed to magic rocks and loses his sanity, runs an extremely bloody and violent multi-planet terrorist group so he can get more magic rocks and super mechas under the guise of being freedom fighters. But he gets BTFO at the end and dies in a moon shattering explosion.

sure thats fine

Alright

Could you switch Gong to
S - 80
D - 30?

So is 50 the amount of suffering that happens to the average person, or something else?

i think 50 is just getting brutally killed

This is all wrong, though.

He got a huge inheritance, is a millionaire, and was able to live the easy life until the events of the first game. Gex 3 takes place in his mansion, after all.
He deserves to suffer way more than he does.

Im talking about young Gex before he inherits Uncle Charlie's stash

Added.

What should I do about Gex then? I feel like characters should be based on their whole life unless they somehow turn into a different character. Regardless the suffering is way too high for that initial description.

Knuckles from Sonic 3 and future games
S:30
D: 30
>alone for his entire life guarding Master Emerald, only known kind of his race in the games
>constantly has to deal with Sonic's shit
>Hotheaded and gullible as he often falls for Eggman's tricks, but he tries

alright do
S - 35
D - 10

Update.

Looks about halfway done

Lou from Guitar Hero 3
S 45 D 75
>Disguise himself as a talent manager to trick player's band to selling their souls
>only happened because they didn't read the fine print
>forces them to play in hell
>after being defeated, gets sent straight to bowels of Hell
I was debating with myself on how much he deserves

>Walter deserving it more than Jonathan
Fucking lawfags I swear

>DDLC on the chart
I mean sure there is a lot of space to fill, but don't like some trash free to play flavor of the month EVN garbage end up on the chart.

S: 5
D: 5
Akari Ichijou from The Last Blade series.

Really, she's just an onmyoji who goes out to kick ass once anomalies happen and she hears rumors of a mermaid. Apart from getting scolded by her dad and big bro - and yet managing to flee their wrath, she has hardly suffered. In fact, when you compare the rest of the cast, she and her big bro Juzoh are the most fortunate in the suffering scale.

Haven't seen the first chart so going in blind.
Futaba Sakura
S 100
D 5

Watched her mother throw herself into oncoming traffic and then everybody including most of her family blames her for the death.

They were actually the first ones added

>flavor of the month
It has been almost half a year.

100 suffering usually means like the worst of the worst of suffering. I'd probably put her around 50-60ish. 10-15 on D

The first chart is here

Where would Mitchell “Not Big Boss” Edgelordington fit into this?

>Insinuating Mordin deserves his suffering more than a literal fucking nazi

You dare

>S: 100 for Futaba
Way too high. She overcame that issue and got some friends to hang out with, maybe a boyfriend too.

If your character has some kind of happy ending or get over their suffering you really should double check if they deserve 100 suffering

Tenmyouji

75-80ish suffering
30-40 deserve

Is secretly Junpei who is now on his THIRD Nonary Game. Got royally fucked by Akane in ZTD after getting Soporiled by her. Never remembers he got engaged to her. Spends most of VLR finding her dead despite looking for her for decades and by the true ending, gives up on her and is more or less defeated though having Quark.

who's the one from 100S 100D?

Caesar aka Edward Sallow from Fallout New Vegas
S 60 D 75
>Instigated brutal rule that subjugates women, engages in slavery, crucifixion, and kills one in ten of their own soldiers
>BUT rule has rid land of raiders and drugs
>well-read and intelligent but pretentious, short tempered, and cruel
>Suffers brain tumor that he will most likely die from without Courier intervening
>throw his best friend, Joshua Graham, off cliff for one failure

S: 60
D: 60

>Treated Haku and most of his friends like crap
>Loved her dear brother, but was easily tricked into believing that Haku was her brother once.
>Directly got her brother killed in combat by pushing the enemy aside from his brother's killing blow to the enemy
>Said brother then had to tank a blow meant for Haku and Nekone, causing him to die
>Upon her dead brother's wish, lied with Haku to make everyone believe that Haku was her brother causing the group to schism and cry because her brother was a much needed symbol
>Had to take Haku to meet her mother, who, despite knowing it wasn't Haku, decided to lie to keep Nekone happy
>Watched Haku shit on her brother's legacy because of his incompetence and was a wreck any time no one was around

She never truly got any better or over it

Nameless One from Torment

get off this board right now and don’t come back until you’ve played planescape torment

dude, just look the characters on 100 suffering, waifufaggotry is ok, but be objective

suffering 100

deserved it 50

I’d say about an 80 S/ 65 D.

S - 50
D- 80

That definitely sounds bad, but not as bad as even most of the 90s and 95s

On the first chart