How can we help Sonic Team refine his taste on good Sonic Games?

How can we help Sonic Team refine his taste on good Sonic Games?

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Bring bacc the old sonic YA. The new one has way too much soy in his diet.

replace them all with competent people

Watch out, you might summon the wojak-spamming '06 defender.

Colors is a better game than Heroes and Unleashed.

Isn't Sonic Team divided into 2 parts? One makes good games, the other makes shit games?

>Colors is a better game than Heroes and Unleashed.
>colors
>good

>Sonic Heroes in the good games
Get that fucking bullshit out of here right now.

I disagree to an extend. It's definitely much more consistent than those two, but Heroes and Unleashed's high points are much better than Colours' and vice versa. It's a matter of taste, I guess.

ALL the Sonic games are shit

ALL OF THEM

The ones that made actually good 3D Sonic gameplay (Generations, Unleashed and to an extend Colours) are making the Mario & Sonic Olympic games now. I don't know how the fuck that happened.

Heroes is objectively shit

Switch unleashed and colors or else this image makes no sense

Shadow did nothing wrong

he killed thousands...

The one thing colors did good was making taking turns better.
The levels were still worse than unleashed, and highly reliant on bad 2D.

what the fuck is this, a Sonic thread without CD?
is this legal?

Letting the Mania team to make a FULL 3D Sonic boost game.

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Context user?

Remove the boost feature and replace it with spin dash.
Your opinion is emperically incorrect

One is a dead meme and the other is Shoop da Whoop

Remove idiots from SEGA higher-ups and make sure that job will be done (use compitent and expirienced staff, guve them enough time, don't change direction of the game every mounth) and i think we will ve good to go.

Be honest. Would you buy and play a Shadow the Hedgehog 2? I would.

They did exacly that in LW

Who's the faggot that made this? I wanna slap them for putting Adventure, heroes and Unleashed on the good side.

Hi

Definitely. Shadow has a pretty high q-score, it'd be easy money for Sonic Team.

I don't wanna actually touch you, so go ask your mother to smack your ugly face. I'm sure she's gotten good at it over the years.

I really wanted to like Sonic Colors. I was plying it on emulator and thought it looked pretty, had a lot of neat stuff, and I liked the campy cutscenes reminiscent to the old Adventures of Sonic The Hedgehog cartoon series with that type of banter from Sonic at Robuttnik, but got so bored that I had to put it down.

Of the ones to come out in the past fifteen years. Generations was great, Unleashed was great, Mania was great, and Heroes was great. Shadow The Hedgehog had a great opening cutscene. That is all I have to say about Sonic.

1. The spin dash was terrible in that game. I'm referring to SA2 spindash
2. LW was a bullshit remake of super Mario galaxy
3. Boost gameplay should be scenario specific : i.e the speed sections in sonic 06
4. The environments in lost world were garbage.

>good thing
>bad thing
Yawn

Glad people agree colors isn't part of the good Sonic games group. A bunch of 2D sections and wisp bullshit is too much to look past.

>Heroes and Unleashed in the good
>Colors in the bad

You fucking massive faggot.

Does it bother you guys that shadow the hedgehog is the best game in the bottom category?

See

games games
Mania
Sonic 3 and knuckles
sonic 2

good games
sonic and knuckles
Sonic advance
sonic pocket adventure
sonic advance 2
sonic the hedgehog
sonic CD
sonic generations

decent games
sonic advance 3
Sonic 3
Sonic rush
sonic rush 2
sonic colors
sonic adventure 2

terrible games
sonic adventure
sonic 4
sonic unleashed
sonic and the secret rings
sonic 06
sonic heroes
sonic boom
sonic boom 3ds
sonic lost world
sonic 3D blast

Pure autism tier
every spinoff besides the puypuyo reskin

The only games in that image I dislike are Sonic 4 and Lost World. I will concede the glaring flaws of the rest but I still enjoy them Black Knight wasn't that bad either

>Sonic adventure 2 an entire tier over 1
How many times do we have to have this discussion?

sonic adventure 1 is an abysmal game in every way outside of sonic 06 or the black knight and shit it's the worst sonic. Adventure 2 is playable if brainless.

>modern self-aware ironic fans complain about boostshit
>they all love drop dash and getting instant inertia for nothing in Mania though

>Putting heroes in the closed mouth panel but not Shadow
They play exactly the same, only Shadow doesn't have the inferior partner gameplay.

Adventure 2 is objectively a downgrade to A1 in almost everything it attempts.
>Corridor levels that practically play themselves in the speed segments
>Shitty half assed attempts at collectathons in the treasure hunting segments
>Shooting segments that are slow as molasses and don't even have the decency to try and present an illusion of speed like in A1
The only improvements are in the chao garden.

You are clearly a delusional and unreasonable person. I'm not going to argue with you.

Drop dash
>can only be used in the air
>environmental hazards still hurt you
>level design is more complex than a railroad

>just hold anywhere anytime against anything lol

jeez user, your response is sooo smart. (you) are soooooooooooooooo smart

When will A2fags ever learn?

All is yellow to the jaundiced eye.

Adventure 2 is bad, it's just not a total mess. It's a game non-autistic kids can enjoy, atleast adventure 2 battle was, IDK if the dreamcast version was as broken as Adventure 1 or not.

>being angry and condescending make me correct and the other user stupid!
Calm down whitehead drone. Mania shit isn't classic sonic and never will be there is a reason the classic sonic games didn't have drop boost. Your post has no real substance you are just chimping out and calling me a retard. It's easy to pull off instant speed, it's boostshit making excuses won't make it not boostshit, it's still too easy to pull off no matter how much you obfuscate it.

How can one man make such amazing soundtracks like Sonic 3D Blast and Sonc 4 Episode 1, yet has to make degenerate fucking garbage like Heroes and SA2 Battle?

>present various statements to backup my reasoning
>durr you chimping out durr smug doesnt make you right
Maybe follow your own advice retard

There you go again claiming the game with a DeviantArt OC is not a total mess

>thinking the adventure games belong in the good games pile

Put Heroes on the bottom.

I told you obfuscating it doesn't make it right. You are just arguing different degrees of boostshit
>while mania drop boost isn't in a hallway!
Even though that doesn't make it not boostshit, it's just slightly harder to pull off than traditional boostshit. I;s still boostshit just lesser. Like I said before getting angry and calling me a retard isn't making you anymore correct. Maybe you have some maturing to do... Do some breathing exercise, not everybody is your enemy user, just because I don't like boostshit in mania doesn't mean you have to attack me.

Oh haha, this post is just a joke. Silly anons with their irony...

fuck off adventurefaggot

ok kid belive whatever you want. have better shit to do than argue against a rock

>Sonic adventure 1 and 2
>good

The only way you could rationally hold this position is if you believe every game after Sonic 1 is boost shit. Spindash is far, far easier instant momentum than dropdashand is cancer, desu

I thought soyboys liked sonic the sissyhog

But shitty padding and Werehog isn't too much to look past?

Unleashed was the last game before the series was full on "press x for the game to play itself"
that alone makes it worth getting through the werehog stuff

>Heroes has one core gameplay style and is always about pure high speed platforming and just getting to the goal just like the classics
>Adventurebrainlets think it's a bad game
Makes me kek every time.

/t

Because Heroes has levels like Mystic Mansion
Shadow the Hedgehog honestly has better levels than Heroes

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>has one core gameplay style
>Chaotix missions full of lods of abcktracking
No. It also doesn't accomplish its "one" gameplay style terrifically well, Heroes is clunky as fuck. A lot of levels had great thematic design though.

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colors was decent though

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>Shadow the Hedgehog honestly has better levels than Heroes
Even if we're not counting the horrible missions, the levels in Shadow barely have any speed at all. The game feels slow as fuck.

Chaotix still plays the same as every other team, that's what I mean. They have different objectives sure, but the core gameplay is the same. Shadow the Hedgehog also only has one gameplay style if we're not counting vehicles.

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lol

i love heroes, but it would be much better if you could charge the spindash on demand. this is a pseudo boost spindash fusion

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>sequence break
>there's a fucking 1-up there showing that it's an area intentionally accessible

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which is even better because the devs realized the potential of this game's physics for 3d space exploration

To summarize my webmspam, OP is pants on head retarded for putting a shallow phone game like unleashed next to Adventure & Heroes. Explained in this img good night

NO NO NO! its a bad game because my best friend game grump told me it was bad!!!!

Arin Hansen has spawned so many sheep spewing his shit opinions on so many games

>people still believe that sonic is a sonicteam problem.

It's a sega problem. Sega keeps cutting deals with consoles to make sonic games for their release or for milestones because console makers what a SONIC GAME on their platform because people still do buy them.

Sega promises these game to them in return for money, but doesn't promise any quality.

Because of this, often the sonic games are re-purposed half-finished or otherwise aborted games with sonic just inserted into them. They were never meant to use sonic in the first place, they just added him and were given an incredibly strict release date that allows for the developers to basically barely cram sonic into whatever they had and call it finished.

The only way sonic games will ever be fixed is if companies stop randomly demanding sega to make sonic games in 6months to coincidence with some random bullshit marketing scheme.

Yeah. When they showed off drop dash I thought it preserves rolling speed and gives a boost according to that. If you just jump in place it'll be super weak, but if you, say, rolled at full speed off a ramp it'd boost you hard on landing in the direction you choose. It had so much potential but they blew it.

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