This is without a doubt the pinnacle of the series

This is without a doubt the pinnacle of the series.

Prove me wrong faggots

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Vice City

Story & atmosphere wise? Yes, probably.

No contest , but San Andreas comes close.

Yep you are one hundred percent correct OP. If only five had taken the driving and shooting from this game and built on it instead of becoming an arcade game. Also the multiplayer was far far better, driving round having to find your guns in free roam is far superior to unlocking them and keeping them forever

>11 year old hardware
>still runs it better than a modern PC
Impressive.

>Man the driving is s realistic when I make a 30 mile per hour turn my sports sedan almost flips over too! Don't you know every car handles like a 1970s 5000 pound sponge suspension cadillac it's realistic bro. No I never drove a car before but the driving in GTA 4 is uber realistic!!

Why would I prove you wrong if you're already correct?

>unstable 30fps
>720p
>no AA
>runs better
ok

I don't get why people love GTA IV so much.
It was dull as fuck. Story was too serious and there was zero replay value.

however in V if you know where the gun and armor spawns are you can keep fighting longer and hold your power positions, unlike other players who will eventually have to retreat to ammu-nation.

San Andreas >>>>>>>>>>>

hey maybe you should try turning the steering wheel that hard while doing 30 mph and see what happens, by the way you've never done it before.

>is European
>doesn't even have a car anyways
top kek

I can´t prove you wrong because you are 100% right

>no AA
The PC version doesn't have AA either, and at least on consoles you can get through cutscenes without stutter, not to mention running into weird glitches every five minutes during gameplay on PC.

>Story was too serious
The game literally ends with you in a helicopter chase with a rasta that's smoking a blunt whilst flying

It had great detail. And the story wasn't that serious, Niko was always shooting cheesy acid jokes and a shit ton of the characters were a fucking joke (Roman, Vlad, The Heroin Lesbian, etc) but it had depressing moments

you're right

>no customizable content
>no endgame content
>no airplanes
>no off road vehicles
>grey color scheme
>obnoxious side characters
>cars have ridiculously loose suspension
No thanks

>story
Oh goody, another revenge tale with shittier writing than any other previous title.
>atmosphere
There's no fucking color in this game. It's just 50 shades of bullshit

This. Why does GTA V run more smoothly AND look 10x better than GTA IV? Why do you faggots obsess over this poorly optimized garbage?

FUCKING THIS!!! Cars in IV handle like utter trash.

>What is low center of gravity
Maybe you should climb out of that elgoblino mobile.

i just enjoyed the way it was a challenge to master. It was obvious who had learned how to drive and who hadn't, even if you were good the instability prevented car chases being ended as soon as one side could draw a bead on the others tires.

>Why do you faggots obsess over this poorly optimized garbage?
I love the game and it's my favorite of the series. It breaks my heart that I can't play it on PC.

>>obnoxious side characters
it's much more better to have sopranos ripoff, coldsteel and uncle tom as protagonists.

>the online in IV was superior
It was barebones as fuck. No content creator, cannot buy properties, no saving your cars, very little customization, nothing to do except kill each other or do one of the 10 races.

man i will never forget my first walk around Liberty City in IV, even with very little to do it felt super immersive

Autism

>contrarians STILL pretend IV's driving is better
You folks are seriously fucking nuts. It takes a bit of skill and a decent car to make a turn at any speed at fucking all in that game.

I am very glad I don't have taste this shitty.

Every GTA has shitty writing, except for SA (which is only passable because of Samuel L Jackson and James Woods)

Why the fuck don't they just release the PC version without GFWL?

gta 3 had pretty solid revenge story

>GTA V's babby mode sticky tire nigger fest is better than IV's
kill yourself, you literally never need to brake in V

Great rebuttal. I bet you were sad when Roman died.

He didn't

>70 IQ gangbanger who ends up breaking into Area 51 to steal a jetpack is good writing
ok bud

i can't

>you never need to brake in V
Yes you do. It has a much more realistic driving experience. IV had too much body roll, it's unbearable

Yeah it was just classic gta free roam with no monetary limits imposed by in game currency. You just jumped in and fucked about with your mates, on no lock on servers the shooting was GOAT satisfying, nothing like grabbing the uzi and just hosing down another players car, for he time it looked so good. And as for no content it made everyone innovate. Me and my mates used to use the car damage system to play demolition derby in the airport, or fly around in helicopters trying to knock each others tails off, if you survived the crash everyone would try and flick you with the rotors, or sometimes we'd turn off the damage and just blast each other flying with rpgs for hours and hours laughing our heads off. 5 was just boring as fuck and the missions (which were just to grind money) were mostly boring too. Plus are you forgetting Cops and Crooks? one of the best MP modes ever

I said only a few characters had decent delivery, but nice strawman

>It has a much more realistic driving experience.
>you can flip your car by turning the steering wheel

Thats why it was better, when you learned how to do it you had a sizable advantage over other players. Anyone can drive good with no practise on the new. I know its not realistic but theres absolutely no weight to the cars in V, it feels like shitty Midnight Club

I feel sorry for you. Have fun going bowling every 6 minutes

Yeah, the sad Russian guy was the pinnacle of the series. Give me a fucking break

You guys do realize there was a stability update for the steam version of gta iv last year and it runs perfectly now, right? Well you still have to get around that CANCEROUS gfwl bullshit, but anyone with half a brain whose spent longer than a month on the internet could figure out how to google a workaround that takes 2 minutes to set up

>implying you cannot fuck around with buds in V
We play a lot of Smear the Queer, everybody gets into Insurgents except for 1 guy in a Panto (smart car)

Everyone chases the queer and smashes him until the smart car explodes. The last person to touch the Panto is the new queer.

Bonus points if your panto is hot pink, stickerbimbed, with a roof rack 'o crap.

>the missions were boring
You just don't like GTA. They're the same "go here, shoot these guys, grab a thing, bring it back to me" missions GTA is famous for, only now you can do them with friends.

>forgetting about heists
Those were fun, you cannot deny

>Anyone can drive good with no practise on the new.
Yeah no, you've never watched casuals play V.

In air car control was one of the worst things about 5. wtf motivated them to put it in there....

Sick GameStop mod, senpai.

More realistic in the sense that a decent car won't fishtail turning at 20 km/h

>no weight to the cars
How can I tell you've never played V? Have you ever driven a tank vs an SUV vs a supercar? They all drive and handle much differently in V.

In IV every car handles like a boat and sounds like a sewing machine

lots of aspects of V were dumbed down so women and children could have fun playing. have you also noticed how tame and unoffensive the radio jokes are compared to the older games?

Well i actually gave up on V before they implemented heists but i only heard bad things. I dunno i've go no reference there. That Panto game sounds fun but on the 360 version of V the car damage mechanic was bullshit, you could do any meaningful damage before they explode whereas on IV you could crush each other into little boxes with only one working wheel whilst somebody tries chasing you down in the airport tug, just pure insanity. Each tot heir own i suppose but i still play IV from time to time hackers and all but i never feel motivated to go on V, it was actually the biggest gaming disappointment of my entire life, i checked the news on that game every day for 18 months after the teaser dropped, i knew there was something off with the general feel of the game before the prologue was over it was very saddening

They increased the level of control you have because driving is actually lethal if you fuck up now.
Not to mention you spend way more time in the air due to the varied terrain in the game compared to IV.

>take the shooting from IV
wew lad
It's so fucking slow

Game had the most boring story and gameplay. It's only redeeming quality is "technology". It was a huge leap compared to San Andreas.

The graphics and physics were really impressive for 2008.

I bought it first day and was there playing the MP the day it finally got patched, everyone was just zooming around like fast and furious 4 (the one where they used far too much cgi) Even today on 4 you run into people who can't drive for shit.

You literally cannot bash other cars out of the way on V unless they patched it since i played. You could drive the wrong way down the freeway on IV in armoured van and send other cars flying, on V they stop you, its crap. As to the cars all handling the same thats just bullshit. There was plenty of difference between the Futo and the blista even on IV.

Yep, i could barely believe what i was hearing. Just another reason why everything felt vaguely wrong from the moment i jumped into V. I didn't think the music choices were as good somehow either, not that they were all terrible.

Yup 4 was masterpiece for a GTA game
>best protagonist
>best side characters
>Best engine
>best gunplay
>great radio selection
>godlike ragdoll physics
>amazing map
I miss it lads

>Prove me wrong
I can't because you're 100% correct.

I don't remember once being thrown out the windshield on V from a crash. I dunno what you mean by lethality? There's barely any car deformation when you crash, like on IV if the wheel arches got deformed they fucked the wheels up. The varied terrain on V is no benefit when the driving sucks so much, besides there was varied terrain in San Andreas and it didn't need in air control. It's just unnecessary casualisation. You can literally flip your car over when its rolled by turning the wheel, thats so fucking stupid

Give me slow and meaty over fast and flighty any day. V looks and feels and sounds like airsoft

>I don't remember once being thrown out the windshield on V from a crash. I dunno what you mean by lethality?
That does happen and it's usually death. Your car explodes if you land on the engine after a decent fall too.
The driving doesn't suck, you're just mad that little Timmy doesn't have to put five hours in just to drive down the road.

4 was a game I had to lay aside and pause for several months before forcing myself to go through with it, because it was so fucking boring, it was at a time where I was a fat fuck with zero friends and zero hobbies and I had no reason at all not to keep playing it but couldn't keep the game up because the story and missions everything was so ridiculously boring

5 is a much better game overall, that had me hooked for far longer

Super impressive. I played it at my mates on his 360 after it released and sold my Wii the next day so i could switch over, just to play GTA 5

>graphics
Underage? IV looked like shit.

>Every mission is a car chase or gun people down a hallway
It was also a step down from SA in terms of customization, weapons, cheats. The best part about this game was the physics and getting into fights with people

I can't. For a moment it actually seemed the series was growing up. GTA V was a huge step backwards.

There's a term for that. It's called a "return to form".
IV is basically a spin-off for pretentious faggots who never really liked GTA at this point.

>It's a gta4 contrarian circlejerk episode

The driving is casualised and boring. Somewhere in the middle might have been better but since it doesn't exist i'll take IV without contest. Yes i do like when there's a bit of a learning curve and being a good driver makes you a valuable player to your group. You just can't do lengthy car chases in V because whoever has the faster car just zooms up and zaps your tires out or headshots you. On IV they could be in the better car but if you knew what you were doing you could run rings around them

I hope you all realize GTA V's story was shit because of all negativity IV received, especially the kind of negativity present in this thread. If you hated IV but liked V rockstar is literally laughing at you while strolling to the bank.

For 2008, underaged

I think somewhere in between the two would be best.
V plays like a shitty Max Payne 3 but it's better than IV, which is literally pop out cover shooting. Videogames have moved on.

name an overall more immersive free roam with a modern day setting from 2008 or earlier....

I loved both games but you rabid IVfags are just too ridiculous.

If you compare GTA IV to San Andreas that came out 2 and a half year earlier the difference is night and day.
>Ragdoll
>Shooting
>Weighty cars

San Andreas looked like dogshit for its time too.
V was the first one to really look good. I remember thinking it was voodoo magic that it ran at all on the PS3.

>Somehow Rockstar is just "hurr trolling you all!" If you don't like the story Despite the fact they have shit on IV in their own games
You are a moron

>Somewhere in the middle might have been better but since it doesn't exist i'll take IV without contest
this

Yeah V was pop cover shooting but being able to do that all throughout the city setting was awesome, it even had a little destructibility for the cover. Just getting your head down whilst somebody blasted plaster out of the wall above your head with an AR-15 was incredible. They never captured that feeling in V

It's a 10/10 game that brainlets can't appreciate because it's got a slower pace, more realistic gameplay, and a serious somewhat down to earth story that isn't throwing hollywood references down your throat every 5 minutes.

>San Andreas looked like dogshit for its time too.
>V was the first one to really look good.
I really don't think you understand the meaning of "for its time" underage

I meant IV was pop cover shotting

The mechanics are not as much different from IV. The shooting, ragdoll and driving is even better in IV

Yeah, that's literally what they're doing. You're too fucking stupid to understand satire I see.

So?

It makes for a much funner game

Seconded.

I wasn't getting involved in the argument you dumb faggot, I'm just stating facts.

>oh look, an enb that gives the same lighting and realism fidelity as V
>b-but IV is better

:^)

>funner

So was I

It's good, better than SA that game is overrated af

Hardcore IV fanboys are straight up pretentious. The sadsack story is "mature", and the shitty driving and shooting just means the game takes more skill to play, like the game doesn't come with snap-to autoaim on by default.

>As Trevor is introduced he kills of Johnny who has been left as nothing more than a pathetic cuck
>Game makes references to bowling which was a common joke when IV was released
>S-SATIRE
again, you're a moron

>lighting is the only factor that goes into deciding how good a game is

Yeah but the things you were saying had absolutely no value and you were just trying to bait an argument. I don't think you like knowing that IV and SA had objectively bad graphics for their time.
I think it pisses you off.

Debatable. What is not debatable is that it is amongst the top contenders though.

It stands between Vice City and GTA IV for me. Vice City has a vastly superior setting and soundtrack (and I mean VASTLY), but it is limited by the old engine which is honestly kind of shit, the combat especially was clunky even at the time. GTA IV is mechanically superior to the rest, and has a somewhat interesting story as well, but the setting is rather dull, the protagonist is just some gray slav thug (which is miles better than a ghetto nigger, but still) and the soundtrack isn't that great either.

Also, let's not forget Sleeping dogs. It is a top contender in the genre as well.

Can any V fags actually refute this video?

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The only thing V has going for it is that it looks prettier.

IV has better
>Ragdoll
>Driving
>Shooting
>Map
>Story

Which is very impressive thinking about there was 5 years between the games and only half that time between San Andreas and 4 which had much bigger technological advances