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I'll be honest, I haven't played since my match against RB. So I'm gonna be rusty as hell.
Only one way to unrust!
French Bread streams in a couple hours and Over the World is set for July.
Pass is vee
Also, merk, you're at 0 bar
What's with the error I get sometimes joining a room on vita? Other than that, the game is GREAT
wheres the stream
I do t think anyone here plays on vita. You should probably ask the Vita fanatics on /vg/.
Go ask vitagen
that was rough
vita players can't join ps3/ps4 lobbies. maybe that's whats happening?
forever hoping for a pc port, thanks friend
That's up to Arcsys, m8
But I like you too vee
Naw. The rooms don't even show up from ps3 and ps4
Brain, you're letting 236~B be a bad habit. It's a strong tool but you're ending your combos early by confirming into it and using it in blockstrings without meter/CS
That was fucking disgusting Waifu. I knew you were gonna do it as well
I do it nearly every time.
Never gonna stop either.
oh yeah i know, i just mean in general
i pirated the game on ps3 and it's hella fun, I just don't know if I wanna go online and run the risk of getting console banned
Yea, I'm seeing it. I just don't trust any of my normals against Aka. I plan on using another way my next go
>Surge of players this week
Naisu
How would PSN know you pirated it? Also you should buy it if you like it.
why would you ever play carmine when there are several characters that do his general gameplan way better without killing themselves
2 Zero bars.
May god have mercy on our souls.
>I just don't trust any of my normals against Aka
You caught on fast. Akatsuki's normals, nearly every single one, beats out Hyde's in terms of speed. You're best bet is to try and zone him out a bit unless you got frametraps
That's vita, they don't play us.
Man, I wonder why there's no crossplay with Vita. A game as niche as this needs all the playerbase it can get.
Because he's cool and has a sick as hell voice
The system can detect if you have CFW on your system and ban you outright, you can jump through a bunch of hoops to get online every time you turn the console but I think I'd rather just wait a month or so to see if there's any news on the PC front
I bought EL on Steam in December and I fucking love it, I just don't feel like buying it for PS4 where I'd have to pay for online and then have to buy it again when it comes to PC
Puddle pressure is pretty fucking annoying to deal with.
this all applies to seth, a character who's way better at setplay even though it's not even his niche
like all things with carmine you just have to sit there and build GRD while he kills himself setting up puddles and throwing projectiles, then kill him
character doesn't do enough damage anymore to really justify losing 600 health every combo
Seth has cool combos but he isn't cool and his VA is whatever.
then don't play him and collect easy wins against those who do.
I don't play him, I'm just wondering why he even exists in this game when seth, byakuya and hilda all got hella buffs in unist that make them better at setplay and better at close/mid/far range respectively
carmine is the SF5 ryu of setplay, he does everything mediocre
I don't play enough of them to really give you an answer. People have their preferences.
I swear I'm dashblocking those attacks after you eat my fireball
feels bad
Why is my internet shitting itself
Do you also live in Australia?
you don't know what you're talking about. meaty wheel gives carmine safe meaty oki that other characters have to spend meter or chainshift to get that. His damage used to be among the highest in the game in uniel, he was so buff in that version that in this version he received almost nothing but nerfs and his oki is STILL ridiculous. with just blood wheel you can keep pressure on even when they shield his assault, his 22C tracks fullscreen and sets up oki, 6B is unbelievably fast, he is a really good character.
I'm in Cali. Maybe I should restart my router or something because the games were fine yesterday.
That's pretty close to Australia right?
I'm in the midst of ascending to a higher plane of Enkidu play after finally finding some arcade player to steal tech from.
Touche.
Well I've drank my coffee. I think I'm ready to play and finally lose my orange rank for Yuzu.
I know, though I was wondering if anybody else here had the Vita version too.
The entirety of today was pretty nice. I was capable of finding a room with ~4 people in it every single time I went online.
I wish I knew this too. It'd be fun to finally fight against Walds, Mikas, Carmines, and Chaos instead of just being the one who uses them.
I feel like I've entered a losing streak ever since the english version dropped because I haven't had as much time to research more stuff because I've been busy with dbfz. gotta get back to watching more stream footage.
I noticed you started parrying when I used to punish you.
Is there even any good JP enkidus?
>meaty wheel gives carmine safe meaty oki that other characters have to spend meter or chainshift to get that.
seth and hilda say hi. their oki may not be quite as meaty meterless as carmine (keeping in mind that carmine needs to land very specific starters or cut his combo short to properly get this outside of the corner) but their mixup tools are much stronger to compenstate. carmine wishes he had seths mixup or hildas ability to convert into setplay off any stray hit
> with just blood wheel you can keep pressure on even when they shield his assault
it's pretty bad guard cancel bait
> his 22C tracks fullscreen and sets up oki
this is a pretty cool callout move but it has lots of stuff where it just straight up whiffs (assaults are a big one)
>6B is unbelievably fast
it also does no chip and causes him to die. carmine 6B is just a move that exists to make you stop hitting buttons in the game where not hitting buttons in insanely strong because of shield to build vorpal
Man, Brain fucking loves Hyde's half circle move. I don't think I've seen a round where he doesn't use it.
it is a pretty fucking rad move, to be fair to him
Notes still fucks around with him but he's still THE Carmine player. I found this guy called Bokuno who has a understandably low win-rate but his Enkidu is pretty damn cool. Battle Arena wasn't recording the region he was from so I found a different arcade's upload channel.
I haven't seen too many Akatsukis in the arcade stuff I'm watching but just watching Squish or something should help you learn some more nasty tech.
Nice.
I need to start watching instead of playing more to pick some stuff up.
so literally only two other characters, and again seth can't actually get the fireball to be meaty unless he tries for a reset, which requires the opponent to tech, guard cancel is nearly useless because if carmine commits to nothing while the wheel happens he can punish it on block or just throw it on reaction as its pretty slow, and the chip on 6B doesn't matter because it sets up a puddle that there forced to deal with which allows him to pressure from afar while getting in. I agree that he's probably worse overall then seth but don't pretend like he doesn't have the means to oki people to death.
not even with side characters, I more meant my main, I feel like I've lost interest in trying other characters more
I'm not seeing him use Pale Bringer all that often, he seems to prefer 22C more.
Which is good because it's utterly fantastic. He could get more out of the combo before he throws it out though.
Fuuck I'm rusty as all hell. My hands are shaking from how nervous I am.
I forgot that hits twice gah
Crow still destroys people, his merk footage shouldn't be too hard to find.
>don't pretend like he doesn't have the means to oki people to death.
I think you misunderstand. it's not that carmine's oki is bad. it's just that there are several other characters who have better oki, so why play carmine when oki is literally his only strong point besides puddle gimmicks that lose to just blocking in a defensive game
I did you see use something with j.c one time off it but I hadn't been able to mess around with it yet. I don't experiment mid-match /that/ much
No one here except Jo really plays him here so you'd probably get a better answer from someone who actually uses him.
In that regard, I see more Carmines than Hildas in the arcade scene.
Fuck, I forgot I was fighting waifu and not merk/ walkup
Does it hit twice? I'll have to remember that.
seths oki is much weaker than people think. with the exception of resets, carmine has stronger oki because the wheel allows him to force high/low/throw mixups when the opponent has no meter. when seth gets you to block his teleport move, air shield stops 9/10 follows he has. It's much easier to deal with meaty seth teleport than meaty wheel.
Thinking you were fighting walkup should have been more than enough.
Not him but Seth's meaties are more disorienting to deal with, especially if he sets up a side-switch and actually cross you up on wake-up.
I'm more afraid of Walkups byak then his aka.
>I know, though I was wondering if anybody else here had the Vita version too.
People are already averse to spending money on PS+, I doubt too many would actually double dip for a Vita copy. Even then, I count around like 2 people who did here and they only did it for the story mode.
Walkups anything is scary.
grounded side switch is OS-able. Also fuck, can I get one match under 5 frame delay? I might have to call it early if this keeps up.
seths oki is a bit weaker but seths everything else is way better. every combo ends in orb and then he has tons of options he can throw out knowing he's pretty much safe (in particular dash C, which beats the overwhelming majority of reversals in the game and can set up a crossup or a bunch of other followups. it's not quite as swingy if you keep guessing wrong as carmine, but its overal way better because of how many more options/damage seth has
also, seth has fucking unblockables and an overhead that doesn't instantly stop pressure
The Vita doesn't need PS+ for its online.
I don't know about that, mostly his Byak and maybe his Hyde.
> Also fuck, can I get one match under 5 frame delay?
no, these lobbies are literally filled with people who know their connection is bad but play anyway because they've mastered online tactics, then you wait 30 minutes as the full room scrolls back around to you
good discussion, bad gameplay
Sorry, might be me tonight. Although me and Brain's connection seems to be smooth as always.
I've taken a round off his hyde. Maybe it's just because I don't know the matchups for the others.
>restarted my router because I keep lagging into 10 frame matches
>now the PS4 can't connect to server
No not like this
That wasn't my point, people are already hung up about buying the PS4 copy and then getting PS+ for it.
Ohh it's Fruned!
Kooky?
He's finally back.
Apologies for the absence. Having to put in 12 hours lately at work.
Fuck Ontario. It deserves nothing but nuclear hell fire
I'm trying my best with my Yuzu I'll have you know.
>2-3 bars are bad
what happened to arc netcode?
Shit, good match hippie.
Boy this is a scary lobby. What the hell happened when I was gone?
I wouldn't say it's too scary. You've got me here with my mediocre Yuzu hanging around for comedic relief.
seriously what the fuck is up with that j.2C I swear my 3C was slapping his face and caught nothing.
Hey now, come fight for that red with us, it'll be fun!
Help me
I already don't deserve the orange rank, no way in hell I'll ever obtain a red one.
Just remember if you get red, I'll be waiting to snatch it away from ya.
It's pretty good since it pops me up a bit higher before actually coming out.
I'M SORRY HILDA
Jesus. Someone fucking call the cops
I just got my orange I am not losing it tonight.
Fuck I'm rusted
Hildafag, this is for you. Plus for anyone who cares to learn Byakuya since this is Clearlamp. There's a Linne and Phonon player in here too.
youtube.com
There's a hilda who gets destroyed but has a few nifty CS set-ups where she sets up 623B, Chain shifts, and dog piles more shit on the opponent. Plus there's a combo you should probably learn because you can actually confirm off j[C] but you never do.
i wanna be lovers with his sister
We're taking your orange and there's nothing you can do.
But she's dead and you will be too if you say something like that.
I'm trying okay life is stressful
But the real Tsuku is dead
No, I really am sorry.
I shouldn't have gone balls deep when you've just gotten back.
I don't know what you were doing towards the end there brain. You were backing away like you were hippie a few weeks ago.
Ahh, beautiful match hippie.
Couple of things. he popped veil off twice and I'm used to him throwing out supers so I didn't wanna mistime anything I couldn't recover from. The other being I wanted to really AA the teleport that never came. Just got tunnel vision I guess