Bias Against Game and Developer

oneangrygamer.net/2018/02/giant-bomb-staff-refuse-cover-kingdom-come-deliverance

>There’s significant interest and engagement from the community, with the Steam Charts showing that the game peaked at 95,863 users playing consecutively and now averages around 25,000 players a day since its release.

>This is quite bizarre given that even during the very busy late summer, early fall rush of AAA games, Giant Bomb had time to review Volition Software’s uninspired Agents of Mayhem on August 22nd, 2017.

>What’s the significance of this? Well,The game also only ever peaked at 3,665 players even during its launch, according to Steam Charts.

>Agents of Mayhem sold so poorly that Volition was forced to layoff staff.

>The game also launched in a month that saw the release of Mario + Rabbids: Kingdom Battle, Uncharted: Lost Legacy, Hellblade: Senua’s Sacrifice, Pillars of Eternity and Sonic Mania just to name a few.

>Giant Bomb prioritized an absolute sales dud during a month with major releases back in August of 2017, but had no interest in Kingdom Come: Deliverance even though the only notable new games to come out in February has been Dynasty Warriors 9, EA Sports UFC 3, Shadow of the Colossus Remake and Metal Gear Survive. Most of everything else is either an indie game, a mid-budget title, or a re-release.

Hottest game out there gets ignored. Thoughts Sup Forums?

I don't think anyone has to cover a game they don't want to, and the reason for not covering doesn't matter to me. It's not like Giant Bomb is covered by taxes or anything. They are entitled to their opinions and what content they want to do.

>Making a news article about somebody making a video about something or not
Also, they covered Agents of Mayhem because it was so shit and had some sort of reason to believe it might not be bad. This however seems good and is good.

So what? The game is doing fine and they don't want to cover it, it's their site and their choice. They aren't obligated at all to cover it.

>implying the trigglypuff janny wont delete this thread as well
#forfree

>wanting a war with Gerstmann
Not even the drones at Nintendo could stop this threat.

You're absolutely right that they shouldn't be obligated to, but the notion alone that KDC is for some reason racist, mysoginist or whatever because the dev had a slapfight with the twitter outrage crowd is ridicolous.

An ethical journalist would have contacted the Giant Bomb staff and asked for a comment. Even a "Giant Bomb did not respond to our query" would be better than making shit up in the headline.

>Daniel Vavra, the creative director at Warhorse Studios, wanted better ethics in video game journalism and felt that games journalists have been hurting the gaming industry with needless politicking
Altough that article is hilariously biased it's funny how games journalists now try to hurt Vavra with their needless politicking.

Let them.
It's not like GB is gonna be around in a decade.

I heard this game is buggy as shit, is it true? Should I wait a few months before buying it?

I wouldn't do anything related to gamergate either. That was when a bunch of fat smelly losers cried and cried because a woman had sex.

Yes, it's pretty buggy. There's supposed to be a big patch soon, so it might fix up a bunch of them.

>giving a single shit about gaymen journalism
Well there's your problem, harry

Tell me again how Gamergate was good for us gamers?

The bias is painfully obvious, and has existed in the western gaming journalism for a great while.
It was extremely strongly felt all the way back to first two Witcher games, and it even resonated during the original releases of games such as Vietcong, Mafia or Original War.

I would not see it as a particular problem if the god-damn cunts did not also virtue signal about their moral superiority and opposition to discrimination, racism and xenophobia at the same time. It's actually natural to have biases, and while it is unfortunate for some people, most mature and adult people should also be able to just live with things like this, and not whine about them.

It's the painfully obvious hypocrisy that really, really pisses me off. Being a flawed, imperfect human being is OK. Being dishonest with yourself and others is not.

Yes, it is. The game is about as buggy as TW3 or Fallout New Vegas were at the time of the release, even down to bugs that may cause you to lose considerable chunks of progress, and a handful of reports of bugs entirely breaking the playthrough by causing save corruption have been made, though they are thankfully relatively rare.
It also in general needs a lot of polish. It has the potential to be one of the best RPG of last few decades, it's incredibly in so many respects, but it is going to need a lot of work to really shine - both by dev post release support and most likely also from the modding community.

I'd DEFINITELY recommend playing the game, but I see no real reason why not to wait for a bit, at least until the first batch of patches is released.
Some should be released in a few days, others will likely follow in next few months, likely combined with the promised free DLC's.

weeded out shitty websites like GB

>, but the notion alone that KDC is for some reason racist, mysoginist or whatever because the dev had a slapfight with the twitter outrage crowd is ridicolous.
They also never expressed that notion?

Damn man, I wish GB covered it. I base ALL my purchases of vidya on gamen journalists because I can't form my own opinion. This sucks because the game looks really really sweet.

It wasn't. It was one of the symptoms of a greater illness that hit the industry, and the society in larger. Did anyone seriously think its "good" for anything?

A journalist wouldn't be talking about toys.

>Sup Forums suddenly thinks bias against certain developers is a bad thing

It ruined this board forever, allowing us, the non-retarded to play more vidya instead of wasting time here.

>It ruined this board forever
The board was ruined the instant Sup Forumstards had their mass exodus.

Oh no no no no

well it was originally suppose to be about video game journalists but quickly turned into "INTERNET HATE CRIME!" because of faggot trolls using gamergate for their own agenda. and of course, social media kept a closer eye on those trolls more than anything else.

you don't, but I can guarantee some people only look at giant bomb and only know about games they talk about.

For journalists, it is. And the only time it's good is if devs express a decent consistent trend in shitty practices, like EA including microtransaction bullshit.

Part of the whole gamergate thing was the fear of being ostracized from review and journalism sites if you didn't act like they wanted them to.

They have every right to not cover it, but right now they're just adding fuel to the fire.

Why do people care about GB again?
They haven't been fun or even interesting for years now.

Also the article is shite. There's a much better example with Wolfenstein: Collossal Shit they put on their Top 10 list despite everyone agreeing it was a terrible game.

just proving their own irrelevancy, sold out journos are not wanted or needed

They would give it an unfair review if they did anyway. The lead Dev is a centrist, so a radical right winger in GB's eyes

>some people only look at giant bomb and only know about games they talk about
That's depressing to think about.

I found out about Vavra and his work through his support of Gamergate and was able to help fund Kingdom Come

Gamergate exposes hack journalists as the frauds they are when they keep bringing it up when they were the ones calling it "dead"

GG worked out pretty well

in b4 ugh cringey vavra is so cringe with that shirt uuugh

>giant bomb won't cover KCD because of gamergate / supposed racism
>giant bomb covered Hatred despite being a real life murder simulator

Confirmed SJWs thinkg gamergate is literally worse than murder. Jesus Christ the world we live in...

don't lie to yourself, most people here would be calling them BASED if they went after developers for being sjws or refused to review sjw games or gave them a bad score for their sjwery.

>head guy's shitty views

What else was Jeff talking about then?

(You) didn't try hard enough.

It was never about "journalism"

I'm not most people, I wouldn't do that.

>or gave them a bad score for their sjwery.
That's part of my second point though.

Why?

That's about the head guy's views? Not the game? They never said that the game was racist, just the head guy.

It triggered

If they don't want to cover that game, it's their own choice to do so.

If few of people didn't said a thing about Yakuza or Nier last year, they wouldn't be even talking about them at all.

All gamergate exposed was that manchildren gamers sperg out when a woman gets laid.

The journalist knows he is biased
so he recuses himself from writing a review
seems ethical to me.

Imagine basing your entire hobby around what some """"""video game journalists""""" covers.

Oh yeah I forgot, they are not respectable game journalists, they are just bloggers lol.

Nobody is triggered. Get over yourself edgelord.

It's a shallow barely-hobby anyway. Who cares?

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Nobody cares abot GB anymore, even the shill threads here majority of fanboys admit they stopped paying attention to them.

If you have double standards, don't tell me that "lol everyone has", you being a shitter has nothing to do with anything.

They have the only listenable podcast, and that's sad.

>in b4 ugh cringey vavra is so cringe

He is cringy as fuck though even if he isn't wrong. Also saying you discovered them through GG just show how much of a casual faggot you are considering anyone who is truly into the hobby knows who Vavra is because of the Mafia series. I bet you discovere Sup Forums through GG too you meme loving fuck.

We always say "Dont like it, dont play it". They are just following our advice.

>the fear of being ostracized from review and journalism
isn't that why GB was formed in the first place?

it attracted lefty faggots and reddit niggers here

>Still bringing up the lie that is GooberGate

Hatred was interesting though. I don't think you know how comparisons work.

You proved yourself a casual faggot because outside of the story, Mafia 2 sucks and Mafia 1 was basically his one hit wonder

Nice try homo

>Oh please Mr. American teach me about our history.

As a Polish I have to say. He is 100% right. There were no blacks in Medieval times in Poland. We had Turks, Cossacks from time to time, but nowhere in history books anything about having Kayne West around the castle grounds or towns.

Nice spin, gamergate. That's not even what they said. How are you morons still clinging to your disingenuous victim narrative after four years (actually probably closer to six)?

And there reasons for not covering it were 1.it looks boring and 2.the developers are racist.

Only communists would try and force a private company to hold the same morals and ethics they do.

No-one at the office probably gave a shit. It wouldn't be the first time a AAA game was passed over because they didn't care about it.

A gorilla might have been paraded from a travelling fair once.

Isn't OP a massive SJW, as in he wants justice brought to Kingdom Come while GB are the chads that do not fucking care?

Yes, not that the game is boring which is the point that I'm disputing.

How so? It was a generic twinstick shooter with a monochrome filter? Literally the only reason it got coverage around the internet was because of the real life shooter image attached to it. It wasn't even a good game in the slightest

But they're not refusing to play it because they dislike it, they're refusing to play it based on political reasons, which I know you're going to compare to the people here, but they're supposed to be playing games no matter how shitty to review them, snubbing something because of a political bias only lowers how neutral or unbiased you claim to be.
How do I know games aren't getting scored based on political leanings? Obviously refusing a game for that reason is okay.
I dislike how willfully ignorant the left likes to be when it comes to these arguments, the right might be full of actual racist retards, but at least they'll come clean about that shit, leftists are just subversive as fuck and it's sickening.

Sup Forums is a communist board -who would have known?

Their argument at this point is that history books are shit, and stuff wasn't documented well then. And any black person was whitewashed if they were written about. You can't argue with these people.

Stop making this shitty fucking thread again and again.

Nobody said good. Bad at reading too. So sad.

>making up shit

Everyone is biased retard.

It isn't being bad at reading if you provide no context to your statements and just blindly say it's interesting. Please support your claims instead of just strawmanning please.

True, but the games they choose to cover show us where their interests are, and in this case it shows us that their number 1 interest is politics, with games being a distant second at best.

>there are people who are literally crying because KCD sold well

What do faggot e-celebs have to so with video games?
You fucking losers need to stop using e-celebs to fill the void you all have from not having any real friends to be around with you.

I think Hatred is good

Also what makes a game "generic twinstick"? Entirely based on its setting, Hatred is p original. The original Postal sucks and the remake is only worthwhile because of the online co-op.

>How do I know games aren't getting scored based on political leanings?
Because they're playing it. They're pre-empting your fears. I just know that if they did review it and they gave it anything less than what Sup Forums felt it deserved, they wouldn't hear the end of it either. Smart move to steer clear of it entirely.

>I dislike how willfully ignorant the left likes to be when it comes to these arguments
It's a Reddit/Tumblr thing.
>Make extremely pointed passive aggressive remarks
>When someone snaps back at you, you just remove your spine and pretend you weren't alluding to anything and claim they're being defensive when you get BTFO.

What self respecting adult would support anyone who supported gamergate?

>You can't argue with these people.

I know, that's why I am not talking with them. If they are having problems with books being bad and not accurate enough... than what about Bible and Quran? It's so funny to see how many people are loosing their shit over video game.

>Reviewing a product is an endorsement now.
The ABSOLUTE STATE of the left.

Interesting isn't exactly an ambiguous word, friend.

Also that's not what a strawman is.

>2000+18
>thinking video game journalism matters at all
It's all about those streamers and youtubers these days. Devs and most players don't give a fuck about ratings anymore.

Gotta buy the game. You're kinda embarrassing

Kinda like Sup Forums dohohoho

holy shit theres a new ufc game?

Gamergate was people losing their shit over some chick. That's way worse

>why don't the africans or middle easterners make their own games about their cultures
>are people on other continents and cultures so imcompetent that they need me to make a game about them?
Based Vavra.

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>This extremely minute business expense is enough to get petty about over political bullshit
>When they bought a fucking Vive day 1 and tons of shovelware for it.
I'm really steaming that old peanut.

>people losing their shit over a woman

Sounds like typical beta males and retards. I've heard plenty of different versions of GamerGate, but in the end only really dumb people have won.

Everyone is biased, but before you were born journalists and even """Journalists""" were supposed to strive for objectivity. Just a history lesson.

>but in the end only really dumb people have won.
>Not enjoying a good shitshow.
This has expanded beyond my wildest dreams.
I hope we go through another "GG is dead" arc and then loop back to the boogeyman phase.

>waaaah why arent they reviewing my nazi fanwank game muh free speech

free speech means you have the right to NOT give attention to scummy assholes if you dont want to dumbass

wonder what betacuck drama it's going to be based on this time.