This game is really FUN!

this game is really FUN!
Anyone else playing Disgaea on switch? I've only put in just under 10 hours but I can see myself putting in hundreds. It's my first Disgaea game and the amount systems within the game are pretty overwhelming. Most of what I read online says for new players to just pick and choose and focus on what systems and features are appealing until post-game. So that's fine by me.
Thoughts on Disgaea, Sup Forums? Any tips for a newcomer to the series? I'm having the most fun I've had with a game in a long time.

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I'm glad you're having fun user, I played Disgaea 1 years ago and got 5 on Switch too. I put around 100 hours only doing the main story, I wanted to do more stuff and get more endings but I had too many other games to play at the time.

it's weird. I've been a huge jrpg fan for years but only just heard of this series a little while ago. Is it not popular in the west or something?
I'm playing with the jap voices which is great. the voice acting is hilarious. I actually really enjoy all the anime tropes littered throughout. It's corny as fuck but it's funny to me.

I'm playing it on the PS4 after playing Disgaea 1 and 2, mostly play these games for grinding on item world
At first i was super happy with it but now that i'm closing on the 30 hour mark i'm starting to get pretty disappointed with it, the item world is just too damn easy
In 1 and 2 the IW really felt like the main course, whenever you couldn't skip a floor right away or were interested in them bonuses the battles could be pretty long and fuck you up real good if not careful, but in 5 there's so little enemies and they're so weak, even bumping up their levels in the Cheat Shop still doesn't feel satisfying, i really don't know why they did it
I'll beat the game normally but i guess i'll stay with Disgaea 2 for my post-game grinding

I've only played the main story mission for the Item World (to upgrade the gate key). Got down about 10 levels. I don't really get it. Is the point to take out all the enemies within one turn? It seems incredibly simple/easy to me. Maybe that's only at the beginning tho.
Shitty that 5's didn't live up to your expectations. Like I said in OP i've only ever played this one so I have nothing to compare it to.

I decided to buy it after Nintendo shilled it so much in the direct and I got an actually really good game. Still haven't beaten it since its very grindy but im excited to play the other games after I finish this one.

last years direct? I didn't see it. But that's odd cause I hadn't heard of it until recently searching for switch jrpgs. Didn't realize it was shilled

No you don't have to take them out in one turn, but doing as many attacks as you can in one turn will fill the bonus gauge more so it's desirable to do so, especially in higher level items since the bonuses will, for the most part, be as good as the level you're diving into
There's some interesting shit you can do with it to get some good equipment, early on i found a shop in the item world seeling a EXP Potion V which had a huge item world bonus rank, so i went to the dark assembly to request that the next battle had the bonus gauge give items two ranks higher, so i went to the potion, used all my items that filled the bonus gauge and fucked out of there ASAP with all the cool high rank bonuses from that floor and then started grinding them, good stuff
I'm certainly having some great moments with Disgaea 5 here and there, the first 20 hours were pretty magical, i just wish i was challenged more, but hey, i've heard later on you can unlock a cheat in the shop that will make the item world enemies more equiped so who knows, maybe it'll get great there

thanks for the response, user. Seems pretty interesting.
I only just realized about the dark assembly when it was mentioned during the item world quest. Hadn't even heard about it beforehand. Goddamn this game is dense. It's going to be fun figuring out everything one can do within it's context though, like your example.
And in response to the difficulty- I felt like I was steamrolling through the game up until the point I'm at now (finishing Poisondise) which I'm actually struggling. Still haven't had all my characters defeated though, but I may actually have to do some grinding within the story to acquire some levels on certain characters.

>tfw Seraphina has a top tier english voice but became physically to plau it dubbed after that Zero kid became a regular

been playing with jap voices since the beginning so I wouldn't know. sorry senpai.
I feel like I recognize some of the VA's from anime tho, which is nice.

Killia is voiced by Light Yagami, Setsuna F. Seiei, Riku and so on
Red Magnus is motherfucking DIO
Pretty famous dudes
The Zero kid is also Simon from Lagann i think

I've been working on a Magic Knight solo run Its pretty interesting to work out how to deal with certain maps when you only have one unit to use.

I thought I recognize Zero's voice. Lagann is one of the all time greats.
Pretty sweet about the others.
pretty interesting limitation.

ive tried d5 on vita but it was shit, lately i give it another try and bougth it on switch and it easily became my favourite disgaea game

what's the difference between them? Why dislike one and love the other?

its backed by nintendo so ofc its gonna be better

D5 was never on the Vita.

>Thoughts on Disgaea

i haven't played any disgaea game since the first one and that was about 10 years ago or so. i had a blast with it though. spent about 90% of the game in the item world making a ridiculously overpowered weapon and lvling and rebirthing (or w/e it's called) so i could lvl again. tedious but fun at the time. don't have the patience for that shit anymore.

wat

>no Journey
>no Wave Race 64
>no Ass Creed discovery mode
>no Skate 3
>no BOTW

Just wish the post game was better.
Disgaea 5 is only on PS4 and Switch.

I didn't make the chart, but I saved it well before asscreed discovery mode.
I also think the LoZ Oracles games should be on it but oh well. comfy is subjective right?

is retarded or something? Or maybe just mistaken

he is clearly shitposting. everyone knows the switch version is the worst one

but why? It has all the DLC content plus it's portable.

Maybe he used remote play way too much

5 is not on vita only 3 and 4
This
Post game in 5 is a joke

why is it a joke?

Why is she so perfect, lads?

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it's the fastest one to break if you know what to do, 20 hours.

I'm also playing it on Switch, lad. I'm currently grinding a Fortuna in Carnage Dimension. I've put about 80 hours in this game and I'm not tired of it yet.

It's been half-a-year since it's release I've played the shit out of it.

Yea i like lolis as much as the next guy but i shouldnt need a degree in advanced game theory and tactics to enjoy anything fugg dis shit

Disgaea isn't complicated, it just has no breaks

Easiest of the bunch even without breaking the game
When has Disgaea ever been complicated?

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It's a shame how they're handling item world and character progression via chara world.
I prefered when you could just hop around the item world and the system from D2.
They also need to stop making useless story chapters, but I don't think they ever will.

Somebody give e a challenge run for D5. I've literally beatened it like 10+ times and the only challenge run I've done is female only which doesn't matter because female units are fucking broken.

Excellent taste, user. Disgaea 5 is great. You seem deep enough that you probably don't really need any extra help, just stick to using your favorites and you should be fine through postgame.
As the other anons said though, D5's postgame is pretty short. When you're finished with Disgaea 5, pick up Disgaea 2 on Steam, Disgaea 1 is getting remade later this year so it's better to wait it out.

If you have a Vita, get D4, is writing is wayyyy better than 5.

>Adell just became the black motherfucking Prism Ranger
pls tell me this title will never go away

It doesn't unless you do a NG+, but you can get it back easily.

>tfw beat the story and then lost all interest to keep playing
from what i've read it seems I'm doing it completely wrong but what is there even to strive for now, bigger numbers? to what end?

Do a poison build for your characters

This dude.

D5 had 2 useless chapter (7/8 and 10/11 can be merged into 1 chapter), compared to D4 which was about the same. DD2 went overboard, half the game was useless with Chapter 4 easily being the worst chapter.

This is never going down in price, right?

>no Brazzers logo

What the fuck, where is that boss in the game?
worst I've come across so far was some buffed up dragon thing in the item world but this looks much more brutal

If you have the PS4 version, he's free DLC, if you have the Switch version, make sure he's not on in the DLC gift shop, then check the Dark Assembly to pass a bill about fighting a Tyrant Overlord or something similar.

>beat baal on regular but got burnt out on grinding for carnage baal
feels kinda bad, esp since the leaderboard numbers were so low, and I could've gotten a good ranking

lol what the fuck
I'm excited for shit like this but I'm assuming it's hundreds of hours away.

It's Nintendo, user. So no, probably not.
I payed 90 leaf bucks for it (80 plus tax) and I think it's been worth it so far. I plan to get more than my money's worth out of it

Yeah I was thinking it would be the case. Portable 3 and 4 never went down in price anywhere and seemed to have been low print too. Figured this might be the same since it's both nintendo and nisa. Gonna pick it up eventually but was kinda worried the price could actually go up like the others did.

>price going up
did that really happen? seems pretty fucked

If you know what you're doing you can do it in like a day. Some dude did it in 10 hours somehow.

I want to say the world record is 7 something hours.

That's wild, I'm over 100 hours in and only just finished maxing out a characters subclasses, forget reincarnation and chara worlding. I need to see what he did.

>HD remake announce after I just buy the original on pc
REEEE

sucks, user.
Is the first Disgaea regarded highly? is it as fun as 5?

best game in the series story wise
gameplay wise it's a reverse order, with each new title being better than the last in that category

I adore Disgaea 1. But it may feel dated after playing the newer games in the series. So many QoL changes have been made that have improved the series gameplay with every entry.

However, I highly recommend one besides,which in my opinion still has the best story in the whole series.

games really fun. I just started post game. Been trying to farm up statisticians but they are refusing to breed.

do you think the HD remake will include these QoL improvements or is it strictly visual?

It's fun that it's the first and you can see all the original ideas and jokes. But I think the systems are really well defined and streamlined by 5

D1's story is outstanding but the gameplay has aged terribly, this is more a compliment to the devs for streamlining the process because Disgaea 5 plays like a fucking DREAM, it's the most refined SRPG to exist and probably most refined RPG ever, bur that means going back to D1 is extremely difficult if you've played 5 beforehand.
If you know this though, give D1 a shot, it's worth the hassle.

I've never broken the 70 hour mark, and D4 Max Strength Carnage Baal is the only super boss I haven't beaten, since he's just a stat check. If you're willing to figure out ways to break the game, there is very little you can't just flub your way through.

they'd be insane to not
but it's probably gonna be an altered story as well, possibly
just play it, user

I haven't played a Disgaea since I gave up on beating Baal in DD2 years ago.
Kinda burnt out.

alright yah bloody convinced me

Is Valvatorez the best Disgaea MC?

The term is "least worst".

sardine memes are cancer though

Did they just stop all PC ports or someshit? What's going on?

Literally impossible.

NISA lost money porting both games, so no more ports.

Not officially but it went up a little bit because of all of the used copies. Digital was always normal price, though that hardly ever went on sale either.

What about a Hat in Time?

I'd say it has the best characters, but the story got really really bad with all the Captain Gordon crap
Ended up enjoying 2's story more even though it as generic as a battle shonen can get

The first half of 4's story is god tier, crashes HARD around the time axel shows up.

Nah it's just taking time.

I want to call bullshit on that, do you have a source?

DISGAEA 5 PC WHEN?

Whatever they do with the remake i hope they tone down on the generic poses in the cutscene
I feel like destroying a netwherworld everytime someone punches the sky

Played through the story in about 40 hours, had an absolute blast. I was skipping cutscenes at the beginning but after I bothered to watch a few I regretted that bc the game really is funny.

I got a bit into the postgame, had some fun there, but after I went through the trouble of maxing all subclasses on Killia and a Sage for 10m base stats I realized there isn't really a way to expedite that process and I was really gonna have to do some form of that grind for every unit I wanted in postgame and got discouraged.

I'll get back to it eventually, I've heard 20* Baal is possible with just a couple maxed units and I'm willing to max like 4 or 5 but idk if I can manage like a dozen+ subclass/Chara World grinds.

Just fuck off and focus on something else for a while, the breeding starts slow but gets faster as you combine statisticians. I did my subclass grinding on Killia while I was breeding them and I had a stack of 900 just in time to bring him back to 9999 after finishing his subclasses.

God Witch and the Hundred Knight is terrible (Doing the Tower of Illusion was one of the biggest slogs I've ever suffered through, and I haven't even touched the basement yet), but I'm determined to finish the damn thing. I've gotten the two bad endings and now need to fight the last of the 3 dark witches; how much game do I have left?

you can grind up to 5 characters at once
just have 1 humanoid and 4 monsters, and dual-giant-magichange and geoblast for an hour or two while swapping sub-classes