Second Chart Suffering Thread

Here are the rules, actually read them:
>No characters from the first chart.
>No vidya memes, creators or e-celebs.
>5 characters at the most for a series.
>Provide an image for the character you want to post and state the name of the character and the game its from
>Write a brief explanation about what your character does and why it would fit in that particular slot since I don't know every character out there.
>S0-D0, S100-D0, S0-D100, and S100-D100 will be filled in last. Feel free to post who you think would fit in any of those slots, and a strawpoll will determine who gets what slot.
List of ones mentioned so far: pastebin.com/AFtcXxpN

Come on guys, we're almost there. Talk about what should be moved & suggest characters.

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First chart.

bump D-Class to 100 suffering

Why's that?

The Rookie from ODST is way too low; the person who suggested him at that spot clearly only ever played the game and hasn't read any of the novels. He ended up losing a ton of his prior teamates to corrupt soldiers wanting to loot stuff, and then he ended up being shot in the back of his head by a former ally who had gone rouge.

He needs to be at least at 75-85 suffering. Thankfully, there's an easy solution: Skull kid is at 85S/40D despite the fact he was in the old chart. So remove him, move over a few of the characters 1 collumn to fill the space, and put the rookie in the vacant slot

>Skull kid is at 85S/40D despite the fact he was in the old chart.
I thought that was meant to be Majora in the original chart.

S: 40
D: 35

Lord Dimwit Flathead, from Zork

Was a rather incompetent and, as his name implies, dimwitted ruler. After He built a statue so big that it covered a wizard's home in shade, said wizard retaliated by killing him and his whole family

Junkrat (S100, D35) should be moved to S: 70 D: 60
He is a tragic character that was wronged by his government and people and was poisoned by radiation to the point of insanity, but he IS also a murderer, thief, terrorist, racist, and pyromaniac.

I suggest lowering the Suffering total because he takes immense glee in his work (blowing things and people up) and he seems to genuinely consider Roadhog (his "sidekick") a good friend, though the feeling is seemingly not mutual.

How many spots are remaining?

Achi from Sin and Punishment.
S:20 D:85
>Attempts to manipulate humanity into fighting a war with some celestial being, deceiving her followers and getting almost all of them killed
>Only suffering is she fails, and several years later loses her memories when she tries it again. In the very end it's implied she gets what she wanted anyway.

I counted last night and there were 116. Less now.

Okay, neat

>Suffered: 25
Isolated from humanity withone anyone else to comfort her in her current state.
>Deserved: 100
Obsessive desire to control her boyfriend.
Easily jealous, even getting angry and banning bacon from her mansion.
Accuses her boyfriend of cheering on her while he was just buying her flowers.
Locked him up in her cellar till he became the Snatcher.
Let her entire kingdom deteriorate.

Have positions on this chart changed?

I remember adding some and it seems like they've moved a place or two.

Which ones?

Vyse and Ryo.

I think I put Vyse at 25D, but he's moved up to 30D, and I put Ryo at 45S, but he moved up to 55.

I could be wrong though.

>Implying Arvis didn't get what was coming to him
60 is too low, his suffering and how much he deserved it should be about equal imo.

85, 25?
>born Branded
>forsaken by father, separated from mother at birth
>grew up on streets alone
>beaten, attacked, almost killed by people scared of him
>taken in by mage who wanted to basically have free magic energy from a toddler slave
>didn't even teach him to speak
>mage found out he wasn't a spirit charmer, kicked him out
>left him on the streets alone, starving
>finally taken in by some punk kid and his dad's mercenary company
>dragged into a war on the losing side, forced to work with the subhumans who refused to acknowledge he existed
>unknowingly forced to be the head strategist in an army with the goal of murdering his father
>cucked out of his rightful throne by a brat plant of a cartoon villain, then by a mary sue

Can we get this for either S-100 D-0 or S-100 D-100?

why?

>The Bernkastel and Rika duality
bueno.jpg

>P3 MC
>suffering 100
And it thought these lists couldn't get any dumber.

Because he won the lottery!

What's dumb about the list?

>gig
>that high on the 'deserved it' meter
he did fucking nothing wrong until he was brainwashed into becoming gig.

Contributing

Even Junpei had a harder life. Heck, even his death is pretty uneventful.
He died happy.

where?

I just realized he replaced Aleph too, did someone do that on purpose?

95, 100

Please just give me the image itself & not update the chart unless I completely disappear. You updating a JPG also rapes the quality of the image over time.

This man should be in 100 becuase it was just like watching a suffer simulator and then he super got super death in his true ending were he was just erased from every multiverse

kk
I can elaborate on why I chose maximum suffering and almost maximum deserving if you want

Yeah, please do it.

I guess OP is a p3baby. Even Tatsuya had a harder life than MC.

Maximum suffering:
>Stuck in eternal nightmare where he relives his decisions over and over again due to guilt over destroying his and other lives for power

Why he deserved it:
>Fucked up everything for power to the point where even he can't deal with the guilt over what he's done

I never played P3 actually, only P4G (and I didn't even beat it). I try not to be bias on this list & just listen to others while comparing descriptions, people kept suggesting him to be that high.

S: 15
D: 55

Teddy Lagerfeld, Dead Rising 3

>wealthy and lives in a mansion. Implied to be wealthy out of inheritance rather than making it himself
>spends most of his time in his basement and was totally unaware the city was overrun by zombies until told three days after it starts
>withholds a valuable object that could help a lot of people, not because he wants it for himself but because he's too lazy to walk a couple yards and hand it over
>so lazy that when asked to hand it over, he decides he would rather murder you with RC guns than walk a few yards.
>dies fairly quickly and nonviolently of a heart attack as soon as you confront him directly

Almost any SCP page
scp-wiki.net/scp-409

If you need a source, I think she's from a Hat in Time

I know Vanessa, don't worry, user. I think she might be more fit for 90 deserved though since 0 from Kirby is worse than her in my opinion (maybe I could shift 0 to 100 & Vanessa to 95? Not sure if 0 is bad enough for 100 deserving though).

You got memed then.
MC might have had a shitty childhood, but that's it.
Oh, and while he dies at the end he gets his wish of spending his last days with his friends.
Dude had a pretty good life.

Already in first chart

Who's that at 90, 10?

The Foundation literally use D-Classes to test the effects of supernatural entities, sometimes even straight up using D-Classes to feed certain creatures to keep them under control.
Case in point youtu.be/kMpRVY1imzM

I feel like this guy is a valid candidate for S: 100 D: 0.

>family is fucked up beyond repair
>confidence due to having to live up to his older brother
>traumatic childhood event in the stuff with the masked circle
>he fails at the end of IS and has to reset the world and have all of his journey and growth of a person erased just so he can try to save his one friend
>even after going to the alternate reality shit is still fucked for him
He suffers in both realities he exists in, he had a hard life.

Fuck, Marry Kill: Every single character on this chart

I think it was someone from Fallout New Vegas, Survivalist Something? I forget

fuck Donte
marry Metallia
kill Jonathon

Alright, now file every other character you recognize into one of those three categories

He's Randall Clark from one of the Fallout games.

S: 95

D: 45

That doesn't really add up with what I read He probably should be in the S90 but it's too late at this point. Would it make sense to push the one below him above him at this point? I'm struggling on what to do unless he deserves it way more but I doubt he deserves too much based on what I read.

Where's their current placement?

No, it was Skull Kid, I remember from when it was being made. if it was Majora, then it'd be at way higher deserved.

S:85 D:85

Alright then, removed.

Oh, him, he was actually at 95, 95 originally but got pushed down. I'm looking through the old threads & can't figure out why. Would the old placement be better or do you want him to be 100? Are you sure there aren't any positive things to happen to him?

First one says he is in a coma which contradicts the rest.
Second one is legit.

>death shoved inside of him
While true, death cared about him and didn't bring him any harm. He even developed special powers because of it.

>party member dies
He was in your party for like a month. He shouldn't be mentioned unless you wanted to to switch MC with Akihiko or Ken.

>Junpei's gf dies
What does this have to do with MC? He barely knew her. Once again, it has little to do with him. You could say that Junpei had a shitty father, lost a gf, a best friend, and ended up as little league coach, that alone would put him above MC in the suffering chain.

MC was an orphan, but he made some great friends during the game, and even got to spend his last days with them instead of just dying during the last boss.

Like someone else pointed out he's in the first chart, no dupes this time around was one of the rules from the original thread.

Any other major or noticable oddities with the chart besides those that have been discussed?

While it's nice to get some clarity on the character I still don't know where to put him. Should I just remove him? I don't know if I can shift Leaf up to a logical 100.

Suggestion for Steve Burnside from Resident Evil CODE:Veronica
S:95D:45
>gets put in prison because of his father's mistakes
>has to kill his father after he becomes a zombie
>acts like an angsty prick around claire
>GOLD LUGHARS
>gets mentally cucked by leon in the novelization
>after finally escaping a literal hellhole, a crossdresser forces him and his waifu to the same hellhole but in antarctica and with more BOWs
>finally escapes and the crossdresser's sister kidnaps him and his waifu using huge underground tentacles
>gets infected with an experimental virus
>tries to kill his waifu
>dies a virgin
To justify the D:45, he has the most annoying VA in the entire game and he almost lets Claire die so he can have his Nardo moment

Dunno. His S should be around 80 imo but those sluts are already occupied.

I think you should just leave him there to avoid any backslash the P3 community is incredibly vocal.

Update. We're not going to finish this, are we?

>stevie-boy made the list

What makes you say that?

S: 100
D: 0

You should add this man becuase I never never seen a guy get so fucked over for literally doing nothing. Just everything went wrong for this man

Suffering 100 Deserved 0 should be the guy who has to compile these charts
Suffering 100 Deserved 100 should be the people who suggest additions

I might bump him down S5 now that I look at it more.

The threads have progressively gotten slower each day, the fact we're not adding anyone who was on the first chart is also making it hard for people to think of characters to even put on the thing. It also seems like people were mostly just interested in getting their characters on the D0 range of the chart but now that's full as hell.

Good joke but I'm not suffering on this outside of the shitty captcha of street signs. It's kind of comfy since I'm just playing Mario Odyssey while all of this happens.

>people were mostly just interested in getting their characters on the D0 range of the chart
What do you mean?

It looks like it's pretty close to being done

The majority of suggestions have been characters for being in the random suffering range (usually a high number) with them not deserving it at all or very little, even long after the fact that area has been mostly covered. It's pretty visibly noticeable by just looking at the chart how many spots are taken in that general area compared to the rest of the chart.

We're 3/4 there, only 90 slots are left (89 if the P3 protag stays or goes).

What do you think the reason for that is?

I would've given Steve a lower number if it had been available. I felt he was a S:75D:15, but nothing in that general range was really available

Probably because people get a bigger emotional connection to characters who go through shit but don't deserve it so they're more memorable simply. You would think the evil cunts might be cool or interesting to enough people to have the other side filled but I guess not.

The lower left corner seems to be the last section filled on most charts

are you not counting ?

There's no space for them.

Mutants from Underrail

Deserved: 60
Suffering: 25

This guys are a serious pain in the ass when you first encounter them and can basically ruin your run if your build is not mini maxed.

since lief is on there at 25,95, I'd put soren at 25,100. He went through worse then lief, see

Dr Fetus from SMB

Suffering: 60
Deserved: 90

Kidnaps Bandage girl for no reason than to piss of Meat Boy. Kills squirrels and makes Meat Boy literally go to hell.

Elro from Iconoclast

S:75
D:65


>His family gets killed for murdering an important oficial because he was angry about his dead dad
>Fails to get revenge and violenty got severed his arm
>He doesn't believe in the MC because she is the last family he have even she constantly saves him
>And because of that he gets in the way on her mission to save the world
>Her friend shoot him on the leg because he was stuborn
>Lost his arm, a leg and his pride just finally to admit that the MC is strong enough to take care herself

King Harlaus from M&B

Suffering: 100
Deserved: 40

He's kinda of a doofus and fucks up sometimes but really just wants to eat butter. Gets fucked by every other nation and his kingdom is destroyed every time just because of geography

chara at 95,85?

>psychotic murderer only doesn't go on a killing spree because he's incredibly ill
>his SOUL merges with asriel, becomes flowey
>kills everyone numerous times, then resets, just to see what happens
>when frisk arrives, they merge with them instead
>assuming genocide, goes on a killing spree, murdering all the monsters just in an insane desire to get stronger
>overpowers frisk's mind as soon as they kill ASGORE and get the final SOULs
>only agree to reset when frisk agrees to let chara possess their mind permanently
>proceeds to murder everything over and over

How is that getting more than they deserve?

they're stuck in a neverending limbo since every time they murder everything(or do anything at all, they can't do anything else unless they reset, which undoes everything, including their LOVE

S:30
D:0

Billy, Ridiculous Fishing

Just an old guy who likes to fish in unorthodox ways. Occasionally runs into some trouble with jellyfish. Also there's this weird backstory-ish thing with his father that's not really well explained and might be a joke or a reference or something but I'm not sure

>>Ridley's too big

S:45
D: 65

Princess Ida, Monument Valley

Stole an important artifact from an ancient society of people, dooming them to die and getting herself and her people cursed and transformed. After going on a quest for forgiveness and putting the artifact back, she and her people are turned back to normal

Poppo at Suffering 65, Deserved 95

Why?

Because she's an annoying little shit just begging for bullying, but keeps avoiding it a bit too often for people playing the game to be satisfied.

S:100
D: 25

The Pygmies, Pocket God

The entire game revolves around messing with them, in various creative and gruesome ways, many of which end in pretty humiliating death. There's six of them total, but they keep getting ressurected

Annoying characters are generally in the mid-range. How does she suffer that much also? People in the 65 range usually involve death.

Hmmm. Fair point, I guess. Suffering 20-30, Deserved 50 then? Sounds just about where she'd fit according to that. She does get away way too often, after all.

If you've got Durandal there then put Tycho at 75S, 95D

Do they usually involve death? Which ones?

Mion from htoL#NiQ (D0), Gonta from Danganronpa V3 (D15), I forget his name but I believe the dude at D20, Taranaza from Kirby Triple Deluxe (D45), the Club Penguin if you get meta (D50), Worms (D65). The others I forget but they probably have something related to death.

I don't think Taranaza died

He didn't die, but his Queen did.