What the fuck happened to this series?

what the fuck happened to this series?

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Its better than ever though?

this

In fact "better than ever" was the first phrase that popped into my mind when I read OP.

>inb4 angry med II fags

It improved a lot with Warhammer.

Warhammer happened

Empire Total war and musket combat just aren't as good for the type of game and require at least several thousand units to make for accurate enjoyable battles.
Rome 2 total is a disaster in every way possible.

Playing Attila. It's bretty gud.

t. fantasybaby

Rome, Medieval 2, Empire, Napoleon, Shogun 2 era was the the epitome of the total war series.

It will never reach the same level

Rome really only holds up so well and has only held up so well because of the modding community though. It really wouldn't be the same without the realism mod wars and EU. Shogun 2 is probably the only sequel that was a straight up improvement, Medieval 1 was actually pretty fucking amazing and had some solid depth.

>Three different generations of games are the epitome of the series

Attila is the best so far, and that new Britain game doesn't look so bad.

Fpbp

Warhammer
Britannia
3 Kingdoms
Arena
More rome 2 Content

CA is really doing great.

They don't really know how to design a fun game anymore.

>engine since Empire cannot siege
>AI even more retarded, CA had to eliminate moving capitols and forcing generals to maintain armies or AI would just spam single unites and move capitol every turn to the best city of said turn
>collision detection a shit
>the way units engage one another is a step back, M2TW soldiers could be attacked by 4 sides, this is no longer possible
>health bars are shit to 1 hit points. If you get a mortal wound, you should be out of the fight
>build system sucks, if you want a barracks you can't build a farm
>speeches gone
>instant boats eliminate sea strategy
>family tree/heirs simplified
>can't even do 5-deep pike formation
>modding severely reduced on purpose
>charges are shit (see collision detection)

There were a lot of steps in the right direction, but nu-CA has more cons than pros compared to old ones, imo. I still enjoyed Attila TW, though.

>remember /twg/ used to have people play everything from MTW1 to Attila and various mods
>remember the Warhammer announcement
>some talk about having a separate thread for Warhammer since it doesn't mesh well with the established culture
>people dismiss the suggestion
>Warhammerfags from /tg/ have completely taken over.

I said era not generation, all those games were released one sequentially. Rome 2 was an atrocity, Attila was an attempt to resell Rome 2 with some fixes.

Warhammer games dumb down the series to the point where it's not even worth playing.

As it should be, histcucks.

They decided map modding is a no go to milk people of their cash.

outside of them going full retard and fucking up the norsca dlc for wh2 the warhammer games are GOAT

>Speeches gone
They're still in, they're just not cutscenes anymore.

Empire and napoleon are not even close to the rest of the games you listed.
And in Shogun 2 the failures of the engine are hidden and not expressed a lot and it makes up for them in other parts.

No.

The unit collision is extremely poorly done.
youtube.com/watch?v=5VQbCs56Pmw

Warhammer was a mistake

Three Kingdoms is literally my dream TW game. Couldn't give a shit less about your Western cuck shit.

Fantasy was the best thing to happen to Total War.
Butthurt historycucks still seething.

>warhammer
>/tg/
That place is 60% 40k, 30% generals and 10% y no gun/elf slave wut do

fucking casual

>GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH WHY ARE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT THE NEWEST GAMES IN THE SERIES URGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WE SHOULD DISCUSS DECADE OLD GAMES IN THE GENERAL INSTEAD
That aside there has been plenty of non warhammer discussion.

I only listed one game. And regardless I'm still enjoying it. Pretty sure one of the mods I have installed helped fix the unit collision though. Attila without mods kinda sucks.

>muh fantasy generic races that all still play the fucking same
at least you could immerse yourself in older games as a crusader or other meme thing and they were decent for their time
the new ones are mostly copy pasted with new skins and good goys buy into that
ai is still dumb as shit and battles take forever to load in a game thats mainly about them its just unplayable for someone that doesnt have a 250+gb ssd and one shouldnt be required to play game without having to wait for 5-10 minutes to load 2 times from and to campaing map

>/tg/
>Invading anywhere
/tg/ is already the best board on the site. They don't need to take over anywhere else.

>I am silly!
>I don't visit /tg/

The fact we have fantasyfag v. historycuck posting is proof enough that they shouldn't be in the same general. Even Empire/Napoleon fans didn't receive this much shit.

There is no absolute way of improving AI in any strategy game, the way they imitate player action is through scripts or adding more complexity through the mechanics in the game that the AI can further use to out-do the player. You're never going to have AI in a simple strategy game with barely any mechanics able to compete with a player, this is why developers implement cheating on the side of the AI, you just can't account for every scenario that the player is going to make with scripts, it's just not feasible as a developer to foresee every way a player is going to exploit your game.

It's not a limitation of the skill of the developer it's a limitation of the human condition, so the only other option to ever improve AI in total war games is go to NVIDIA or AMD and have them build a module on their GPU's that utilize machine learning algorithms to best figure out how to beat a player.

Even if this were to happen however players would still complain not because it's too easy but because eventually the AI would become too good.

They may not invade anywhere but that board has some serious turbo autists. Just like anywhere else on this site.

Pretty big bummer you can't mod the campaign map in Attila. What's the mod support for Warhammer Total War like?

You are silly.
>Why are people discussing in
Gee, I wonder what people will be posting come Thrones of Brittania release or Three kingdoms. Hrmmm.

>no sieges

The only people that think med 2 was the best game are the ones that started total war with it and have blind nostalgia. Then game was okay at best littered with bugs and a step back from rome and med 1.

They can certainly improve the AI. Back in the Alexander game they did they introduced retreating, something they never brought back because that's all the AI did.

Then in Attila they finally made the AI flank with cavalry. I still remember their half assed attempt at an AI improvement with Rome 2. Fucking capture points in a field battle.

All warhammer fantasy has on /tg/ is a dead general
You'd think it being renaissance would do something in the 20 daily "user why don't you have gun in your settings but allow plate armor" thread

then they should make it multiplayer or stop releasing same thing over and over with 20 dlcs
yes pvp campaing would take lots of time but its theyr problem to play around it

Empire and napoleon are not even close to the rest of the games you listed.
And in Shogun 2 the failures of the engine are hidden and not expressed a lot and it makes up for them in other parts.

Some enjoy eating shit, but that doesn't make it best,pretty nor good.

ive played since shogun and medieval 2 + kingdoms is their best game

/tg/ autists are some of the best though. I mean sure you may get some bad ones for Total War, but have you ever seen what happens when some retard from Sup Forums tries to make a thread? They turn that shit inside out.

>my taste is better than yours

Cool story. Blow me fag.

>/twg/ fags think /tg/ invaded their general
>When /wfg/ also includes TWW
/tg/ didn't invade you you faggots, the only autists in /twg/ now are the ones who were already there.

The least they could do is attack a wall ffs
>build siege equipment to x level
>attack settlement
>man siege equipment priority x type units
>attack wall/gate
>attack enemy unit/move to city center
>if all siege equipment used or destroyed AND move to city center = impossible, rout

I don't want chink shit, just give me Napoleon 2.

Medieval 2 crusade expac is unironically the best total war experience relative to it's release time

Nothing could be as bad as quests

>there are people in this thread who ACTUALLY think warhammer is good
never fail to amaze me nu-Sup Forums

My complaint was never that the newest game received more attention. My complaint is that the soul of the original /twg/ has been lost because of the divided fanbase and the shit posting between the two sides. Fantasyfags and Historyfags have different interests and it killed the general. DB FighterZ has a separate thread form Dragon Ball General and Fighting Games General. A split would be beneficial for both sides.

Why do you think we pulled a /vg/ on them?
Pic related. Fuck you, Lizardmen are great.

A lot of progress was made with warhammer but instead of improving on it and touching up problem areas they're splitting into a bunch of different legacy titles, new ones like chyna, and now some sort of multiplayer fps is in the works from their studio
they probably made too much money on warhammer and it's getting blown on this junk by the suits

>there are people that think med II is good

>ive played since shogun and medieval 2 + kingdoms is their best game
Shogun 2 is still my favourite due to the fantastic multiplayer.

>multiplayer fps is in the works from their studio
What?

>he doesn't like one of the most lore rich series in the last fifty years

SUMMON

Lizardmen literally has the worst roster. At least with fucking Dwarfs I could enjoy setting up line of fire like in Empire/Nappy

THE

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total war arena. Wargaming took part in it. It's shit.

>one of the most lore rich series in the last fifty years
keep going because im laughing my ass off

Rome 1 Modding scene will never be topped. BI was a horrible expansion that felt like a poorly made mod.

MTW2 was the most polished title that still gave freedom to modders. Kingdoms is the best expansion pack. On the other hand the modding scene is dead for MTW2.

THE

That isn't an FPS you mong. The fuck are you one about?

>Total Warhammer actually have unit collision
>Total Warhammer actually have great charges

sigmar wills it.

>actual history vs made up bullshit.

then tell me about the life of the 23rd Roman emperor

>tfw never could get into RTW because none of my “””gaming””” PCs were good enough.

i don't understand why they are so expensive
bow fodder already from the start

>Actual History
>"Lord X of the Y Empire/Republic/Barbarian-Horde took city Z in the year 'Nobody-Fucking-Cares', only to be stabbed to death by his own generals.'
>Or alternatively, "Lord X of Y got fucking bodied by a city in Kingdom Z in the year 'Really, Nobody Actually Cares'."

>Total Warhammer makes you spend 75% of your game time in an awful campaign mode that has mechanically regressed completely over the past 10 years.

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HNnnnnnnng

>he doesn't know about the mad man that is Elagabalus

>the state of total war fans

t. brainlet who has never read any real literature in his life

>for someone that doesnt have a 250+gb


ssd is a must have in 2018 my poor Anonymous

some parts of our history is made up

I'm sorry, would you like me to add the customary articulation?
>Lord X of Kingdom Y did set forth upon a crusade against his opponents, the horrific Kingdom Z, yet for all of his splendiforous strength and God-Given willpower, he doth ended up fucking bodied by the nefarious barbarians

other games work fine for me
even kcd loading isnt as annoying as tw warhammer
just a shitty unoptimized game

Once you load the campaign map the first time on a HDD it should be quick to appear again every time
and the battles can take longer, but especially if you're on similar locations they'll load up fairly quick in succession.

sounds like warhammer

Or maybe you should buy a shitty ssd for 50 bucks or less

If it was Warhammer then Lord X would have put Kingdom Z to the torch, enslaved their people to be used as lizard food, and then returned to his large ominous castle to mating press his own mother.
And THEN his own generals will stab him to death.

equally as boring tb.h

>mating press his own mother.
malecuck has no penis lmao

t.Asoy

Do not post lmao in my thread

Yes, but with the added bonus of uncensored incest. Actual History tries its hardest to censor that stuff because it's usually really awkward sibling fucking.
On the subject of sibling fucking, hello Teclis.

no space to put 30gb game that im not autistic about on my ssd thats 120gb
still no game should require a ssd to be playable

male sorcerer detected

Bought my 1tb san ultra for 110 bucks. If you cant afford 110 bucks dont you dare call yourself a pc gamer.

lmao get fucked lmao

Please Pete, you know what to do.

SSD is literally basic stuff. You can't even play ArmA without it.

>shiteater and proud
heh