Why is Hayter such a bro?

Why is Hayter such a bro?

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wow he did not look how I expected him to

his only claim to fame is being the VA for snake and playing guyver and was throwing such a bitchfit when they announced keifer for 5 that I have no more sympathy for him

>tumblr meme
yeah what a bro haha

I fucking love it when they give Snake's VA the silliest lines to say

wow i'm sure he cares so much about you not liking him anymore faggot

>adhering to high school clique tier garbo

he wrote the first xmen movie too lol

keifer did big boss better especially considering how shit hayter sounded in peace walker

Considering that he can still do the original Snake voice he did for MGS1-3, you have to wonder if that was a direction thing.

Im so glad you didnt mention 4
I agree that PW was overkill, but 4 was fine because it fit the story

Im stil amused at his bitch fit and how it was so bitchy that everyone thought it had to be a ruse.

Well he's getting on a bit now but he WAS a handsome devil

Hayter's default Snake voice seems to be MGS2 Snake. Fitting, since MGS2 is the best depiction of the character.

He says it was, that Kojima insisted he do the gravely Old Snake voice.

People say he ghost writes a lot of stuff too.

Didn't he throw said bitchfit cause Kojima allegedly was being a dick about MGSV? From what I understand, Kojima never liked Hayter and always wanted someone famous to voice Snake but settled for Hayter because no one else could quite do the role right.

Sutherland was fine but it's still pretty weird to get rid of your main voice actor for the final entry in the series

Kojima never once talked to Hayter after PO, thats why he was being a cunt on Twitter about MGSV and Kiefer for years.

He wanted Kurt Russel since SNake eater, iirc.
Then it makes sense. Shame too, because his MGS2 Snake voice is still great.

it was integral to the overall twist and message of the game

I don't know why Mr. Hayter, you made the thread

Do you think if Konami decides to do another Metal Gear entry they'll get Hayter back?

> Keifer did a better Big Boss

Except he didn’t; he voiced Venom/Punished Snake. None of which are Snake, just the medic. Amazing how everybody is so buttblasted about Hayter not voicing Snake, when not even Sutherland did. Sutherland voiced a medic who thought he was Snake.

Idiot.

INFINITE AMMO

His peak was MGS 1 but he was brilliant in 2

this
venom was not bb or snake, ergo not hayter
but it would have been nice to encounter a young solid snake voiced by hayter

>I never played GZ

Explain Ground Zeroes then and The Truth.

Idiot.

Seems like he also didnt actually finish MGSV and got The Truth ending with Big Boss talking and is again vocied by Kiefer.

>Being this deluded

Kiefer is Big Boss, both Jack and Venom, play MGS GZ again, hear Ishmael voice, hear the truth tapes. He is Big Boss in MGS V

Absolutely.
Konami wouldn't waste money on expensive Hollywood actors.
Konami's account even tweeted at Hayter a while back on his birthday.

Isn't the Japanese voice actor the same, though?

Kojimbles wanted a different voice actor for each mgs but he stuck with hayter

Yeah.

Why did he use the same Japanese voice actor too?

Pretty based

Yeah Kiefer was perfect for an aging Big Boss.
Hayter will always be Solid Snake though, I just wish he was less of a bitch about V.

Glad Kojima took him off MGSV, Big Boss isn't as Solid Snake, the guy had a sense of pride and had to act as his title means. Both Venom and Naked deserved this voice change. Peace Walker shows it, with Kiefer the parts of story when he is praised by sandinistas would have been way better. Hayter's voice was really bad (probably his voice couldn't allow to keep the pace). Imagine the "a hind D" man in this scene: youtube.com/watch?v=VofQjhpkJpY

Would have liked it better if David Hayter voiced Big Boss in Ground Zeroes and Kiefer Sutherland as both Ishmael and Venom Snake in Phantom Pain. It was a big difference in years and it'd make sense for the voice to change like that.

Caramel is dead and Sup Forums killed him.

Good.

wut, it was just Kojima wanting to spend more monies

Can you live carrying that burden? Can Sup Forums?

>Spiderman killed him

Kojima is a spoiled brat that wants to mingle with famous actors. It's no wonder a lot of the people who worked with that weren't famous hated him.

I vaguely remember reading something about Sutherland being cheaper than Hayter because of Hayter's ego tripping.

This.
People forget how much of a diva voice actors are.

Kojima is a hack.

> Implying GZ is cannon, let alone anything besides a Tech Demo
> Implying Hospital Bro is actually Big Boss, and not another decoy

Boy, you deluded morons will eat up anything IGN tells you.

It's kinda hard to believe considering Hayer gave up his paycheck apparently to get the original voice cast for The Twin Snakes

people don't change?

I agree with you 100%. No way could Hayter pull off this scene without sounding retarded.

Hayter was really good as Solid Snake, but Kiefer's drawl was really fitting for Big Boss.

Gave up half his paycheck let's not give him a handjob.

kiefer is a terrible snake

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this meme needs to die.
nobody finds it funny nor charming

He was more expensive than Sutherland because of union rules since he'd voiced the character in the same series for so many years, allegedly.

I wouldn't call him egotistical though, if a bit of a whiner. He's got nothing to be egotistical about and that whole giving up some his money to get the original cast on board for Twin Snakes is a bit too generous. Some of the original actors didn't give a shit and their shit voice performances reflected it.

Kiefer was fucking awful. I'll take a mixed actor that isn't a perfect fit for a role that tries versus an overblown celeb that just reads off the script.

What basis do you have for GZ not being canon?

Kiefer, Hayter, Randolph, Lori Alan, Hale, the woman that voiced Paramedic, Pollock, Downes, Coldman's voice actor, Steve Blum, Tara Strong, Fortune/Fatman's VAs, Flynn, like 80% of the VAs associated with Metal Gear have had their performances suffer in major ways due to bad direction, localization, or just not giving a damn--They're all getting paid.

Granted voice work is brutal, and plenty of them have taken issue with it.

Yet the end result wasnt good. Since kojima cut out most of keifers lines anyways.

>Keptchuwaitinghah?

Doesn't sound anything like Snake, this guys okay but he isn't quite on par with Kiefer.

One thing I'll concede is that people don't have an understanding of the intimate details of his relationship with his longtime co-workers on these projects. It's alleged he was basically invisible to Kojima yet apparently took enough issue that they tried to oust him and had him re-audition for Big Boss's role. In original Japanese, Big Boss and his biological clones are all voiced by the same guy, and things were made complicated with the localization as far back as MGS 2.

it was because of some law that makes any returning VA get a raise of his/her paid.
since hayter played snake for like 5 games, basically konami would have to pay 6-7 times his original wage for TPP and GZ

okay but if youre asking for 20 million giving that up doesn't mean anything if keifer is asking for 10

Flanderization. All the old VAs are guilty of it.
He claims he can still do MGS 1 Snake's voice yet he never manages to hit it.
Paul Eiding is stuck in permanent AI Colonel/Max Tennyson mode, and Hale just drones in nearly all her roles now.

Randolph with Otacon/Huey has probably been the most consistent by far but he kinda sucks.

He reminds me of the voice actor for Scout from TF 2 where that's his only claim to fame and he just clings to it.
He was the only one who was willing to record new voice lines for the Jungle Inferno update video and he frequently does streams where he just pretends to be Scout in servers.

That's actually preferable with talented actors (may or may not have relation), you'd think it'd be preferable to have access to people that can identify with and really own their characters.

Money is money, m80

Voice actor unions are fucking cancer. If anyone wants a big name union member then they can't hire any unknowns, only his butt buddies. This is why so many games sound the fucking same.

Why don't those nobodies join the unions then?

Do NOT right reply to me. Nobody gives you that right, ask first.

Joining unions is fucking expensive. If it's anything like the union my friend had to join to be a gaffer then it's easily a couple of grand.

i really liked kiefer in GZ and V

Union dues aren't cheap. Joining a union doesn't guarantee work, especially not if you're just starting out. The well known guys get first pick of everything.

U wot nigga?

Hayter will always be the real solid and naked snake, but keef did sound better. Was turbo fuckin mad hayter didn't voice bb, and keef voice venom.

Remember when we thought Kiefer would voice the medic and Hayter was going to voice Big Boss? And it was all going to be part of the ruse and it was going to be awesome and Kojima wasn't a hack that delivered 2/3rds of a game?

Good times.

Remember when all the stupid fucks thought Kojima was some kind of ruse master? The looks like their faces when instead of being rewarded with cum for sucking Hideo's cock they got pissed on instead.

Good times.

>Hayter flips out so badly and acts so unreal that everyone, even me, was convinced it was a ruse and he would cameo as Big Boss or Solid Snake at the end
>turns out he was really that salty all along
You can't make this shit up.

You don't have much experience with life, do you?

???

Because he's a huge fag for hollywood and doesn't really care about the Japanese voices.

i didnt mind the VA change mostly because in 4 big boss didnt sound like solid snake had chugged a barrel of cigarettes, he sounded like an old man, and thats what kiefer delivered

Hunt Down the Freeman has ruined any good scenes this game had.

Cmon guys Keifer was a better choice.

He brought a more believable and serious tone to Snake. After all we all know that the metal gear series is known for its believability and logical plotlines and story elements. Keifer was really necessary for MGS5 to make the next step when you fought a fire demon with your naked sniper riding your mech in 1984

Thinking mgs5 was an ounce better without the most recognizable snake VA is just dumb

Canadians are nice people

probably cause he barely had any lines

directors are just as important as the VA talent itself
hayter has repeatedly said that the way he voiced his peace walker lines was based on the director's instructions

Remember when we thought MGSV was going to have a story and decent characters.

Good times.

Source?

he cares a lot about them

;)

Directors also impose the script given to them however. The given localized script, the liberties the director take with intent and the restrictions imposed on them, and the actors' interpretation of that script, and the tolerance of the voice director, all critical to the delivery.

This is why the line reads and the performances were generally worse in the MGS 1 remake versus the original. MGS 2's revised production set the tone for the rest of the series.

The performances were never that great, just the dialogue and mannerisms of the characters got even more awkward.

Yeah, I loved when he remained silent for 90% of the game. Truly the voice work of a generation.

Kurt Russell supposed to voice snake some time. But Kurt rejected. Then when someone thrown the question whether snake was heavily influenced by Snake Plisken kojima denied. Is he a hack ? I dunno.

couldve played snake himself

It helps my argument.