Gaming community wrong AGAIN

This game is OBJECTIVLEY better than MGSV, plot incouded. The gameplay depth, difficulty curve, level design, and enemy design are vastly superior. Why is the gaming conventional wisdom always wrong? Is kojima the hillary clinton of video games?

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Survive is the BRIDGE to Death Stranding

I think it's alright. Not great, but alright.

It's funny because the trailers for MGSV falsely represented the final product, while Survive has been honest since day 1. For that alone the game is better, but of course it's the way more focused game in general. It knows what it wants to do and doesn't waste your time to get to it, unlike MGSV which had a stupid amount of down time.

I do like that there are no arbitrary mountain corridors that give allusion of opern world like in v

>doesn't waste you time.
>in a game explicitly designed to waste as much time as possible with mandatory waiting periods before ever multiplayer game and literally nothing except constant fetch-quests for a singleplayer game.

nice bait mait.

Exactly. STALKER did "open world" right. Survive in a way is similar, but instead of loading screens you have mountain corridors.

What annoys me is that the press and people like yongyea, and the kojidrones, all discard logic and objectivism for their blind fandom. They wont even give it a chance. i also thing this whole microtransaction outrage has assumed a pseudo populist liberal hysteria atmosphere. Bollocks

It's not a bad game, is all I will say.
99% of the internet is a hivemind when it comes to that game. That actually happens a lot now, fucking worrying

What's it like to be so easily impressed? Do you walk out your front door in constant aw at the wondrous world around you every day?

>>in a game explicitly designed to waste as much time as possible with mandatory waiting periods before ever multiplayer game and literally nothing except constant fetch-quests for a singleplayer game.
Yes, that's what I implied how TPP is. What's your point user?

>This game is OBJECTIVLEY better than
stopped reading there

Burrito Joe had really good review and he explained most issues without bias, same as fat jim did(who didnt even mention mt issues)
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Fucking this. Nobody has the ability to actually analyze a game. Survive is a good value proposition and a solid experience. It takes the nucleus of mgs v(which these loons gave a 10) and adds well considered mechanics in a cool sci fi horror atmosphere. If kojima had his name on this it would be a 10. So yes it is worrying how the hive mind mentality is invading gaming. The allure to be among the "consensus group" is apparently equally strong in gaming as in politics

remind me of MGS2 previsions
it's ironic how the fanbase has become a parody of the series they are so faithful to

>What's it like to be so easily impressed
You tell me? Why do YouTubers have such a power over you?

You can'T even unronically say that Joe's review is good, it's utter bullshit
>Complains about survival mechanics in a survival game
>Makes the "poke" argument when he didn't get pass the tutorial
>All the gameplay footage of his is from the tutorial
>Says the game is too easy, even though in all of his gameplay footage he is suffering with hunger and thirsts, and didn't even get pass the tutorial, once again, nor discover new enemy types, not even the Boomer guy
>Lol Trump jokes.

Obvious bias in every single word he has written out for this review, pure garbage

Shitty youtube presenters who use clickbait and moral outrage to shill their shitty talking points.

>jims review
>good
Oh get fucked. Not only can you hear the predisposition he's carrying in his tone, but the amount of nitpicking made it worthless as a review..Ironic considering he gave MGS V a perfect score for being fresh fun and exciting for its whole duration.

>Fencepoke lmao
Jim fatso played like 1 hour

Survive is the "Trump" of video games. Mgs v is hillary, and i mean this in the most favorable sense imaginable.

>2/10
only games like Big Rigs deserve such low rates

This Jimpression (almost make me puke to type that) is the equivalent to someone playing 30 minutes of a Final Fantasy and then calling the combat shallow because there is only the Attack command

Bias is incredibly strong and very few people can objectivley analyze when its a strong factor. This point transcends gaming. Survive has been thrown to the wolves for the rabid enjoyment of internet troglodytes

And this is why Sup Forums is fucked. You guys cant even recognize bad game anymore, since all you play is some early shitccess garbage and skip out on ps4/Switch exclusives. God Im so glad I dont give a shit about Sup Forums opinion on any game

Tell what what gameplay aspects of survive are without merit for the premise?

>You guys cant even recognize bad game anymore
But we've been calling out MGSV for the piece of boring shit that it is for years...

Keep dreaming faggot.
Stop trying to justify the money you wasted.

>political analogy
at least it's no food analogy, americans are improving

>Sup Forums is bad because they don't blindly follow the #FuckKonami crowd.
Fuck no. The game in many aspects does things better than PP, particularly the open world is actually useful here.

you care enough to reply to half the posts though, bitch

Mgsv was so fucking annoying trying to navigate world when its really just these narrow pathways

>would rather trust a youtuber that is potentially influenced by money

And it has no real purpose either. It doesn't add anything to the gameplay.

Yet everyone sucked that game off, every review I have ever seen pretended it wasn't a thing.

Jim Sterling even fucking complimented the side ops.

Mgsv was shit
Survive is shit
Kojima is a hack
Konami sucks

I'm just enjoying the impotent rage of the fanboys of whatever this game is.

Because the shocking reality is that 90 percent of people in the world dont have actually formed opinions, their likes and dislikes are dictated according to the whimsies of the "in" group.

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Wow, Konami shills are unironically trying to force politifcs into this in an attempt to convince people to buy it?
It's a flop, accept it.
MGS is dead, and it should have been dead for 10 years.

Fuck off.

Survive: unconventional, an outsider, antiestablishment, combines interesting ideas into a unified philosophy. Mgs v: boring, bland, overhyped, establishment, not finished.

What kind of next level fucking shillposting is this?

How much are they paying you to eat up this shit?

This place really is full of contrarians.

Bla bla bla, MGS is dead.

Must be so easy to see the world that way

>I watched Angry Joe and YoungYea, they told me this game is bad, fuck Konami by the way! :D

>interesting ideas
It's a really heroic mission trying to unironically convince others that zombie survival turd with crafting #5189573198053 has interesting ideas.

The funniest part is that Yong did play Survive at a convention and admited that he had fun. But saying that now goes against what gives him more shekels on patreon. His is just as much of a piece of shit as the people he critizies in 90% of his videos.

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The important information here being that in a very good day, Phantom Pain gathers a bit over 3k people. On average though, it's closer to 2k.

This is years after it's release. Metal Gear Survive has been out for about two weeks and it's numbers are already approaching that. I'm sure in a month there will be actively (somehow) more people playing Phantom Pain than this garbage. Not even trying to defend Phantom Pain, but you can shill this game every single day on the board, these numbers don't lie, nobody truly cares about it outside of a few imaginary war threads on some forums.

>His
He*

literally this entire website

FUCK konami.

Not only that, he never got to experience the full game, he called the game "a generic zombie shooter", yet trying to go crazy with a shotgun would be stupid, as you would be wasting resources on weaker enemies

>Survive: reused shit from mgsv
>Mgs v: boring garbage

>But saying that now goes against what gives him more shekels on patreon.
Good for him, money is what matters.
And he's useful to bring Metal Reddit Solid down for once.
This franchise has been the embodiment of everything wrong with videogames ever since MGS1 came out.

Good riddance, nobody will miss this worthless franchise.

Folks i can unironically say this is most fun i have enjoyed since bloodborne. Sheds the baggage of mgs and shakes up formula. Fixes the open world and adds cool "dust mechanic". Spear and fence poking paradigm sounds trite but startlingly fun to use in practice

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Imagine being this much of a Kojima dick rider

I agree!
Purchase METAL GEAR SURVIVE™ for only $39.99!

Why did this even need the Metal Gear name when it retcons itself out of existence? Metal Gear isn't the only series with nano machines.

>This franchise has been the embodiment of everything wrong with videogames ever since MGS1 came out.
Can you even remotely explain that statement or are you just gonna fuck off now to avoid that

imagine caring enough about a low effort trend-chasing game to constantly make threads about it on Sup Forums

Oh wow did I get futoned to some kind of parody thread or alternative universe where Kojima was not fired and survival is actually decent (((game)))
You don't have to be genius to see how bad (((survival))) is.

I just don't feel like playing a multiplayer zombie survival

The singleplayer is suprisingly robust. Thats the games best kept secret

Stop trying to trick people into buying this garbage game.

I don't think I properly understand the argument that "Metal Gear" doesn't belong in the name. As you can say the same for Phantom Pain, one of the main complaints about Phantom Pain was that it didn't feel like a MG game in many ways, but people seem to have forgotten that fact now.

The whole "fence poke" argument is also silly, as it seems people forgot about the whole "Pistol tranq" argument Phantom Pain had.

When in actuality, trying to always do the "poke" tactic will not work, there are new enemy types, and fences are pretty weak, meaning that they will be taken down and you will have to and be forced to use other strategies.

It's not anyone's outside of Sup Forums is gonna give this proper chance, I am having amazing type by myself and my friends (When the co-op is fucking working). Plesantly suprised.

>comparing an hyped main entry with a over hated spin off of a niche genre
you are either dishonest or retarded

>focus on the plot
>gameplay is a secondary element
>plot is absolute garbage anyway
>probably the most cancerous fanbase of drooling drones ever, to the point where they unironically eat up some shitty zombie survival cashgrab
>the vast majority of the games are genuinely bad games made by people who clearly struggle with the idea that videogames are supposed to be fun
>the moment the franchise starts trying to focus on gameplay, it becomes a boring as fuck grindfest
>a stealth military franchise, for some reason, has become a grindfest
>the only other outlier is MGR, a generic, 3 hour long hack and slash with the depth and width of a puddle
>microtransactions
>cancer DLC
>tacked on multiplayer game that nobody plays

What's baffling is that MGS1 actually got a sequel at all and that people have been eating up this piece of shit franchise for so many years.
Survive is getting the reception every single MGS game should have received

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vs

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mg survive

Except that MGS V is explicitly in the MGS universe and tells a particular event from the canonical time line of the game.

This game retcons itself out of existence at the end.

The world is actually pretty amazing though. There is nothing more sad than taking the world with presumptuous dismissal.

I love the fence poke mechanic. It has this cathartic "umami" quality that you sometimes ee in games, like sneaking up behind folks and stabbing them. Dev team can be commended for discovering one of these conceits

>b-b-but TPP
You forget the fact that Sup Forums shat on TPP for 2 years straight, and that the month it came out it had always 10 threads on the catalog shitting on it.
Survive being 99% MGSV is the main reason it's shit.

>It's not anyone's outside of Sup Forums is gonna give this proper chance
Good, they shouldn't have given a chance to MGSV either.
At least one of the two flopped.

Not hard to quote replies, its not like I have to read them. Sup Forums's opinion as Ive sad been shit for years and now endorsing that generic zombie cashgrab? Fucking hilarious

Lol this thread is cancer.

Phantom Pain was perfect mechanically and actually felt like a successor to previous titles. This thread is nothing but edgy Sup Forumstards trying to trick dumbasses into buying this pos game.

>look mom, I called something I hate reddit again

>Calling MGS 3 a grind
Other than the menus, no.

>pretentious bullshit cutscene
>zombie survival piece of shit
Explain to me how this franchise has any fans.

youtube.com/watch?v=RB0SlwIoT6o& pinnacle of the metal gear series right here

Fuck off, anyone who sees even a minute of gameplay can tell that this game is a grindy borefest with recycled assets out the ass.

See, I'm not comparing them on release. Phantom Pain had obviously over 10x the playerbase, I'm pointing out this game that, as hyped as it was, disaappointed many and still YEARS down the line has more people playing it than this thing will in a month.

They both look unspeakably boring.

>MGS3
>gameplay focused
Just because it had you crawling around the menu every 10 steps you took, and that it made healing yourself tedious doesn't mean it focused on the gameplay.

Maybe u shud get back to WHIIIRRING with your switch

the only reason this game has the metal gear title in it is so they can get away with literally recycling all the assets from MGSV
why is there any sort of argument over this

Phantom Pain's plot is utterly worthless and didn't need to exist.

Then again, that could be said about Peace Walker as well, same for MGS4. Kojima has been scretching this franchise for years.

Phantom Pain goes even further though, none of the characters feel like they did in the older games, the game doesn't feel like a MG game, the characters got the same names, but that's it, Ocelot being especially the biggest example in this
>You forget the fact that Sup Forums shat on TPP for 2 years straight
Sup Forums did, but majority of people outside of this board adore it, especially now.

Seems like we should celebrate the death of MGS.

It was certainly more gameplay focused than 2 and definitely 4.

Not enough, it only actually focused on gameplay with PW, and that game was absolute shit and a boring as fuck grindfest.
Oh boy, I need to beat a bullet sponge robot 100 times, like Monster Hunter, but clunkier, just what I wanted.

The crux of the matter is that mgs v had a solid gameplay foundation but poor design and a plot that didnt fit with canon or even add much of value, all it did was muddy an already convoluted plotline. Survive takes that solid gameplay base and good graphics engine, sheds the cumbersome lore, and adds competent level design and progressions mechanics. Its not rocket science why survive works and v doesnt.

I still don't get why it had to be a Metal Gear game. Personally, I wouldn't give much of a shit if it was called something else. Other than the use of Metal Gear Ray this barely has anything to do with the series.

There's no game in the series that's a grind other than very minor, optional stuff, with maybe the exception of PW where bosses take a huge beating, where you also have to complete missions to progress with the development of equipment IIRC. Every other game can be speedrun in 3 hours or less, including MGSV.

This is one of the mos retarded complaints I've seen of MGS yet.

>the only other outlier is MGR, a generic, 3 hour long hack and slash with the depth and width of a puddle
Opinion discarded.

Metal gear has a long history of spinoffs. Dont have a cow man

Those spin offs had Snake or something to do with government conspiracies.

Grinding has no place in any videogame, much less military stealth games.
The fact that the gameplay focused MGS games only do grinding is just another example of why this franchise is shit.

>Opinion discarded.
MGR is absolute crap that is only praised by retarded MGS drones who have never experienced a game with actual gameplay.
Every single other Platinum game's gameplay is simply superior to MGR.
>B-B-B-BUT LE RULES OF LE NATURE XD

Your worthless franchise is dead for a good reason and only brain damaged retards will miss it.

If it wasn't called Metal Gear it would've sold even more pathetically.

I played the open beta of this for fully two hours and it was a chore to play.
those konami faggots aren't getting my money again, they fucked me enough with MGS V

Vr missions. Really dude? You know what, ga fuck yaself