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Do you think Duke Nukem 3D is among the top 10 greatest FPS ever made?

Yes

no shit

At least for me, yes.
Story good, fun good, one of the first most friendliest game for modding in every perspective, well designed levels, weapons, great community..

I'm one of the lucky ones who got it on the Vita before it was taken down in favor of that new version. That said, If I wanted to get a physical version of it which platform would be best?

>Story good
I was barely aware the game even had a story. Funny it's the first plus you mention
"ayy lmaos shot up my ride, they're kidnapping women I guess, must KILL"

No. Strife, Blood, Doom, Hexen, Heretic, Quake, Unreal all are better. There are more from the 90's and plenty from the 2000's that are plain better than Duke.

Top 25 for sure though.

Yes. Absolutely

Strife is weak. I just 100%'d the Veteran Edition the other day and there's a reason the game is not remembered as a classic - It's very inconsistent, the flashes of brilliance occur too sporadically
Also I wouldn't put the first Heretic above Duke 3D. Hexen maybe, but not Heretic. Heretic is even weaker than Doom itself for my money
The other you mentioned I can see someone preferring over Duke 3D though

Sometimes it's the simplicity which makes the story good.
Especially the levels itself tell the story.

I play the game as a yearly ritual, and I will say, Episode 2 is still ass with half of its maps feeling uninspired compared to the variety in the rest of the episodes.

Blood over Duke? I'm torn
On the one hand, Blood's gunplay is so much more satisfying (not that Duke's is lame, quite the opposite)
On the other hand, Duke 3D is like one order of magnitude ahead of Blood when it comes to level design. Most of it is not very memorable, and I'd wager that if you played both at the same period, you'll remember Duke's levels way more

awful taste

strife, hexen, heretic and unreal are all fucking shit. there's no reason why blood and duke can't both be top 10 FPS's, which they both are.

>plenty from the 2000's that are plain better than Duke.
lol no. you're a fucking idiot.

Episode 2 is "dude, let's do Aliens, lmao"
I enjoy the close quarters carnage and the aesthetic
Most people just hate the suicide drones and pretend the actual levels bad. The levels are amazing and many are even very good in MP

>unreal are all fucking shit
how about i make your lacerations real

yeah

Yeah.

No, rather Allen Blum is one of the best 10 level-designers ever. Other than Blum, Duke just isn't all that remarkable anymore.

>*blocks your path*

What are you even trying to say? If Blum's level are in Douk 3D then surely its quality as a game raises

Give up, Unreal was never good.

>It's a "the edgiest poster uses Reddit spacing" episode

Dukes level design is fucking trash, doom got it right

The space levels were shit. I enjoyed the rest.

Half of Knee Deep in the Dead was a complete slog.

>Doom
>mazes that vaguely look like what they're meant to convey
>Duke 3D
>mazes that look like real locations with good fidelity to what they're trying to convey
There's no comparison, Duke's level design is ahead and without sacrificing complexity

>look around whole map for tiny button
>ergh and where is it on every wall
>good design
Wew

The buttons are huge and stick out like crazy. Get some fucking glasses

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>all those hitscan enemies
>those fucking kamikaze drones
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
FUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Thank fuck they added schrinker for those big fat bastards

Fuck no. There's not a chance a hell. DN3D was more duke and had great level designs, but I mean that's it. I remember playing the shareware on my 9th birthday at my cousin's house and then him sneaking me a copy that Christmas. It was fun as shit, but not top 10. Not to mention I got it in some bundle recently and tried to replay it, and it aged like milk.
Top 25 probably, but you are retarded if you think top 10.

i think shadow warrior is alot better. also the "remake" is better than forever

The prior will be a controversial opinion but I absolutely agree with you

DNF is so average it's damning through faint praise to say a game is better than it

There's like 20 different versions of this game.

Which is the best one? Atomic? Megaton?

It might break through to top 10, but as one of the bottom members. Doom, Serious Sam, UT, Quake, Blood are all above it for sure. Maybe Halo 3, Half Life, Hexen, Goldeneye, World at War, and TF2 can be argued as better.

Playing the original disc, on an old computer with a crt monitor while skipping classes.

Maybe. It's probably in the top 10 not by id Software.

COME GET SOME

ALWAYS BET ON DOUK

Megaton. ideally with the eDuke32 source port.

>serious sam
>blood
>any Halo game
>TF2
>World at War
Ok kiddo

Blood chapter 1 and 2 are great, the rest is lame.
Duke is great
Redneck rampage is trash
Heretic is excelent
Hexen is excelent
Quake is excelent
Quake 2 is okay
Quake 3 is lol
Unreal 1 is delicia

Maybe, yeah I'd say so.

>Serious Sam
>Not top 5

The Doom series excluding 3 are better. Blood is arguably better. Quake 1-3 are arguably better. There are a few console games that might be better depending on who you ask.

It's definitely one of the best regardless.

MAYBE 2nd Encounter could make a top 15 or something. The other SS games are not as good

Quake>Doom>Doom 2>Hexen>>Shadow Warrior>Wolfenstein 3D>>DN3D>>>Blood

Blood is fucking trash, I honestly don't get what any of you see in it besides solid art direction and believable level design

Are you talking about blood or duke 3d??

I feel the same way about both, both have terrible enemy designs and generally weird weapon design that I find unappealing. DN3D has much worse level design in my opinion because the key to progressing is often small and hidden, makes the city levels in Doom 2 look good