*becomes your favorite weapon because it's objectively the best weapon in the game*

*becomes your favorite weapon because it's objectively the best weapon in the game*

that's not the pizza cutter.

never level dex

*blocks your path*
*one hit kills you and everythin in its way*
Heh, nothing personal, kid.

That's not the threaded cane

Whats the least coolest weapon in BB? Would it be Ludwig's Holy Blade cuz its just a sword that goes into a bigger sword?

It's good in pve but shit in pvp

no rifle spear

>It's good for the main game but bad for a minigame
I fail to see the problem with this.

that's a strange looking kirkhammer.

The regular torch I guess.

>paying for PS+

Thats the cane for me i cant use other weapons because its so good

There isn't a single bad weapon in Bloodborne. All of them are cool as shit.

The least interesting weapon in my opinion has gotta be the tonitrus. It's a club. That's it.
>B-but muh lightning!!
Apply bolt paper to any weapon and it serves the same purpose.

I love BoM but the rakuyo is objectively better in every aspect

It's not a problem, I love the BoM, I just raise the objection it is not the best weapon in the game

The sparking animation is top tier though. It's what makes the whole weapon.

I see you forgot to post the Saw Cleaver/Beasthunter Saif. That's ok, we know what you meant OP.

Tonitrus

I always thought there being both a saw cleaver and saw spear was pretty lame, since they're barely different. On the other hand, they're both S-tier in effectiveness.

In PVP, sure. In PVE it's fucking awful.
>fast hits
>shit damage
>shit stunlocking
Pizza cutter, saw cleaver/spear, and Ludwig's/Moonlight are objectively the best PVE weapons.

That video is beautiful and whoever made it is a beautiful person.

Rifle Spear I think.

It was really just for the different move-set, and to have one str and one dex variant if I recall correctly. Kind of like Souls having a number of different swords with different scaling and move-sets.

Rifle spear used to be one of the best weapons in the game before they fixed the damage calculation for it.

>In PVE it's fucking awful
The fuck are you talking about? It literally obliterates enemies and bosses.

>fast hits
And this is bad because?

>shit damage
It's a dps weapon. What did you expect?

>shit stunlocking
t. haven't used the weapon

>Pizza cutter, saw cleaver/spear, and Ludwig's/Moonlight are objectively the best PVE weapons
Fuck off back to redd.it

BB PvP just feels completely pointless

saved

Been here since 2005 kiddo, not going anywhere.
Do an objective comparison of all the weapons with max combat stats. BoM's output sucks shit compared to any of the weapons I just listed.

Missing the rifle spear. So close.

>autistic STRedditors try to shame me for liking the “Reddit” Cane
>it’s fun as fuck and really fucking good with high SKL
>I never use any other weapon
Imagine depriving yourself of an amazing experience because you have this autistic notion that anything related to a gentleman is “Reddit” lmao

>Best range in game for a melee attack
>Transformed has wide, sweeping crowd-control attacks
>Transformed strong attack is an overhead for narrow spaces, with FUCKHUGE reach, faceplanting every enemy, setting them up for either cheesing or a further combo
>Untransformed has short range, but attacks damn fast and does great damage
>Bonus to some types of enemies

It covers every situation, looks great and does amazing damage, as well.

>and really fucking good
It really isn't.

And yet it's a lots more fun than DaS'

I dont like weapons that make me invest in both STR and DEX

Spotted the autistic minimaxing LHB user. Just because it doesn’t have the highest DPS in the game doesn’t mean it’s not a good weapon. Guess you got your ass kicked by Papa G and switched to the easymode axe before putting points into skill and letting the Cane really shine

That is strictly untrue

SLASH SLASH SLASH SLASH HEAL HEAL HEAL SLASH SLASH SLASH HEAL HEAL HEAL

*Gets down to 10% hp*
*Has a .2 second window*
*full health*

Dark souls 2 has the best pvp in the genre.

In all honesty user 90% of the weapons are fanfuckingtastic to use throughout the game.

Bloodborne plays on the Souls formula strength which is it's combat. Hopefully next spiritual successor will do the same and remove weapon stat upgrades as it's pointless grinding.

>starter weapon is always the best weapon
and this is true for most games

>being so wrong

I love BB but the PvP is bad my guy. DS2 has objectively the best PvP in the franchise, but it’s still DS >= BB > DeS > DS3 > DS2

Jesus all those plebs

Dark Souls has bad PvP too. Both BB and Souls suffer from the same issues, they're PvE games with tacked on PvP elements. I enjoyed it in early Demon's Souls when it was kinda scary when people invaded and they felt like smarter enemies, but then people began to take it seriously and every invasion started to feel like major annoyances. Every 1v1 fight in these games is all about baiting out attacks that you can punish, you might as well just play Smash Bros if you enjoy that.

Not an argument. Estus flasks give you a window to punish healshitters. BB pvp is a vialspam nightmare. Literally just mash dodge and blunderbuss until you get a visceral, because actually attacking with your weapon will just make your opponent run off to vial like a bitch.

>come up with a build idea that sounds fun
>make character, rush through the entire game and all the chalice dungeons then grind out blood gems
>end up with a fully optimized character all ready to start NG+
>lose interest and stop playing
>start the process over again a few months later

Why am I like this?

>Constant connections in DS2
Vs standing around like an asshole in BB
>Invade / Be invaded anywhere and everywhere
VS bellmaidens in BB
>Have arenas with goals for those invaded, and a smorgasbord for invaders
Bellmaidens
>Runs at 60
Runs at 18
>assloads of weapons and builds
a few weapons, a few builds
>copious chances to grief, and shit on players as an invader using the environment
Waiting in a field of flowers for like 2 hours while you sit on your hands
>Combat begins, it functions like any other game in the genre
Combat begins, you go apeshit slashing with nothing holding you back, taking .5 second breaks to get full health from your 20 vials, all while healing via buttonmashing

I could go on

>being a honorfaggot shitter who complains about healing
Literally get good, faggot. You can punish people using vials for a reason.

Please go on, you amuse me

>Souls formula strength which is it's combat
The series combat is solid and satisfying but extremely basic and straightforward and was never the main strength. That was always the atmosphere and how it played into encounter design.

>requires actually playing DS2
whoa you almost had a good argument

There are drawbacks to healing in the soul series, like taking time to heal

There's a reason why the game is dead. You play through it once and you're done. It's a 20 hour game, so the online, while fucking D E D dead after 6 months in, is fucking BEYOND dead now. Meanwhile, you can catch invasion in dark souls one, right the fuck now.

How about that for a flaw? Nobody fucking plays it, there's not enough variety to make builds, and while you sat on your ass for 2 hours to get an invasion 2 years ago, you might not get an invasion for an afternoon if you tried today. But who's going to check? Nobody, that's who.

It’s not about honor you autistic idiot, it’s the fact that healing drags out duels needlessly long to the point of boredom. In DS you can easily punish healbads by backstabbing them during the long ass Estus animation. In Bloodborne you have a minuscule window during the vial animation to parry them. Not to mention that the rally mechanic encourages mindless R1 mashing over strategic combat.

You’re just being a fanboy cuck. I love Bloodborne for the PvE but most non-fanboys can admit to the PvP being steaming dogshit compared to Souls.

I fucking hate those damn chalice dungeons but holy shit they're so fucking addicting.

I wish there were REAL rewards in then like game breaking weapons, outfits and special items.

NOT FOR HONOR BUT FOR YOUUUUU

I'M STILLLLLLLLLLLL IN A DREAAAAAM

Chalice dungeons sucked but at the same time I liked the dungeon crawling. I'd play a game with BB's gameplay and a greatly expanded chalice dungeon, and the entire game designed around that. Pretty much a Diablo-like game with good gameplay.

Wrong it was still active the month ago

>punishing is harder boooohoooo
Cry me a fucking river faggot

>slower than good ol' saw cleaver and spear

why are you arguing for pvp like you're supposed to duel?

you're an invader in the host's world. the host was just doing his quest and going to the boss, you invaded. no he's not going to duel you. if you get him to waste healing items then his boss fight will be harder and you did your job.

If you want to duel someone online why don't you play a game that was designed for that purpose and actually has balance and rewarding combat? A fighting game. Oh wait because you fucking suck dick and have no skill so you need RPG mechanics stacked in your favor to come out on top.

This, the fun thing in invasions is playing the long game and wait for the invaded poor soul to get weak or vulnerable

Again, not an argument. You’re mad as fuck over someone not liking a system that gives advantages to healers rather than to punishers. You wouldn’t perchance be a healing shitter would you?
>inb4 muh honor
If you needed to heal you’re just bad as fuck because you almost died. The dude effectively beat you.

>Oh wait because you fucking suck dick and have no skill so you need RPG mechanics stacked in your favor to come out on top.

this nigga

The starting axe, so boring

Wow mad lmao

can't handle the bantz

burial blade me up famalam

People still play WOW, too. What's your point?

FUCK I WISH I HAD A PS4

Duels and invasions are two different things, you assblasted retard.

And invasions are STILL better in DS2 because a) you can invade anywhere and not just the shitty nightmare/chalices which means you can gimp low level shitters (the most fun invasions) and b) the variety of builds allows for maximum griefing/trolling rather than just pressing R1 over and over invasion after invasion

>paying for PS+
>not getting it free

>you're mad as fuck
Lmao yeah so mad right now

>If you needed to heal you’re just bad as fuck because you almost died
So you admit to be an honorfaggot right ? Who said you couldn't heal ? You ?

>The dude effectively beat you.
Reminds me of that hatemail I got one time where the guy was buttmad I killed him after healing and said he "had basically beat me". Well whatever helps you ease the anal pain, user.

Why aren't you using numbing mist.

you can invade cooperating players anywhere, and there is way more to the pvp than just mashing R1

Because he's a shitter just like the rest of Sup Forums that complains about blood vials.

That's why you have a gun. Just parry their heal.

it's incredibly easy to dodge numbing mist

Still no arguments other than “muh honor”. You’re missing the point because you want to shitpost. Healing in DS is easily punishable so there’s a risk/reward. Healing in BB is easy as fuck to pull off so shitters exploit it and think they’re skilled at the game.

>Untransformed attacks fast

I always found this not to be true. After I fucked around with this and went back to the Cane I found it infinitely better due to it's speed

So just get better to the point you can just punish them ?

It's my favourite weapon too OP but it is far from best in the game
Church Pick is literally a Mary Sue weapon, it's thrusting, serrated, righteous, can be buffed with fire and bolt and has a ranged moveset. It's absurd

> Healing in DS is easily punishable

this is why baiting them and environmental usage is a thing.

That holds true for DaS1 and 2, not sure if that's what user meant.

I don't care about what he meant, he had all the time in the world and he still said something stupid. He's an idiot and should be mocked.

BoM is not that good vs a lot of bosses because even though it has high 'test dummy' dps output, it has absolutely zero fucking stagger meaning the boss is free to spend the whole time flailing around, meaning you have to back up, and can't apply that dps.
Whereas Whirligig staggers the boss so much it can't do anything but sit there and die, so even if it has less dps, it has way higher uptime

Also a weapon with no serration or thrusting or ability to be buffed to different elements will never be the best weapon

Amygdalan Arm is the most underrated weapon in BB. I love that fucking thing.

>Untransformed R1 can stunlock most enemies
>R1 spam into L1 is great for going from one enemy to multiple enemies
>Transformed is great for crowd control and has a ton of range
>Using the charged R2 twice deals massive amounts of damage
>Running transformed R1 has a lot of range to keep enemies away from you
>Its an arm from a cosmic being

>bom
>no thrusting
lol you're a fucking idiot.

it does shit damage for how slow it is unless you have 50 STR

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODS

>GODS
>not KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS

Why do the weapons have bandages on them? Did they hurt themselves?

>KOS
>not KOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSM

To absorb blood

>2011+7
>STILL listing your browsing date
Yeah right- back to r*ddit boy