Is tifa lockhart Asian?
Is tifa lockhart Asian?
Yep.
I don't know, and I don't care. People are still going to fap to her.
Who would you cast as Tifa in a live action adaptation?
She's African-American. Tifa is short for Latifa.
This. The tits and hair are the most important things, and after that, Asian or White is fine.
Baba Fumika
22 years old
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That’s pretty self evident. All the characters in FFVII apart from barret are fantasy Japanese. As is reflected in AC. They aren’t “Japanese” as there is no “Japan” in FFVII but they clearly are not white either.
No she's black can't you tell.
Asia isn't really a thing in Gaia, so imma assume no. Well, Wutai, I guess, but still.
She's probably designed with that in mind though.
I'd say Cid's features are prominently Caucasian. and Cloud, Vincent, and Aerith is that weird, perfect fantasy race. with the "most desirable" features of multiple races mixed in.
Well, what Nomura finds most desirable at least.
>as there is no “Japan” in FFVII
It's called Wutai
Tifa really is a late 80’s-90’s Japan ideal though.
Yes. YES!
Here’s the thing, all desirable traits are going to be found across all races. We tend to associate them with our own races because that’s what we primarily see. Chiseled looks are going to be considered “handsome” everywhere, but because we mostly see them in our culture, ie hollywood, we associate chiseled looks with whiteness. So characters don’t necessarily look “white” or “asian” because no race can own a look.
Wutai is not Japan, it’s wutai. There is no Africa in FFVII and yet barett IS black. Tifa is as asian as Yuffie.
Yet most of cast looks nothing as Japanese.
>Cid
>Cloud
>Aeris
>Shinra
>Turks (minus Tseng)
>KEKeroth (even without white hair he wouldn't look as Nip)
Considering the name of her hometown she's probably some sort of Norse ancestry.
Show me a white guy who looks like Cloud. Oh wait. You fucking can’t.
But they do. They just have odd coloured hair and eyes. Should i point to Jynx from LoL with her blue hair and pink eyes and suggest that “its not possible for white people to have such features” as an argument to why she is not caucasian in design?
>Vincent
>Barret
>so on
Btw yup. Plenty of cast looks none-Asian.
>you entire ancestory is always from your home town
Niflheim is just a term FF has borrowed from Norse mythology multiple times. The bad guy nation in FFXV is also Niflheim.
That's clearly wrong.
Races and subgroups of races have unique phenotypes that describe sets of traits, with many of these traits being described more in some groups than others. Traits that are said to be the most beautiful, i.e: straight and narrow noses, light skin, deep set and almond shaped eyes, light hair and light colored eyes etc are all mostly White traits. Other cultures have come to view these traits also as attractive for reasons that are debatable, but it cannot be denied that many of the traits shown as "beautiful" in the mainstream are traits which Whites disproportionately have.
Cloud is just fucking Gackt with blonde hair and blue eyes.
Geez.
She looks asian, but she and cloud are supposed to represent southern hicks
>wears a cowboy outfit
>from a place known for its “mining for energy” industry
>has a neon sign of Texas in her bar
She’s a good ole southernn gal
They fucked everybody up in the movie. It's like how everyone looks totally different in FFX cutscenes.
You associate those with whites because you mostly see them on whites because your media is mostly white, you dipshit.
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>using AC as proof
lol
With a Japanese face
>Using fanart as proof
lol
Oh sorry, here she is again in dissida. Sorry about that. See you again for the Remake user, im sure.
What’s wrong with her face? Why does it look like there’s too much of it?
>i-it was all a mistake!
Nah.
>Looks western
>it says asian
lol
No, I associate them with Whites because phenotypes are a documented reality. Are you just dumb or do you really think magic Asian people exist in the mountains away from the evil segregationist white media who have light hair, light skin, narrow and straight noses, and large(Caucasoid) eyes?
Ah i see. Just retarded on purpose then. See you when Remake comes out.
Oh shit, I just looked up Tifa’s height and she’s 5’6. Baba Fumika is 5’6. She was literally born to play Tifa.
>cherrypicking
Look, i’m not saying certain races doesn’t have more distinct characteristics than others, but to say that chiseled jaws and a “handsome” look is a white thing is false.
>large(Caucasoid) eyes?
But they are clearly asian user.
>presenting no counter argument at all
Jamon is an ethnic race you retard. Imagine being THIS upset about japs making their characters japs.
Chiseled jaws are a universal human trait of testosterone, but that isn't usually what is under question in these threads nor what I was addressing.
3 of those aren't exclusive to caucasians user.
Have you actually ever been to Japan or East Asia in general? The men are almost all chinky as shit, and most of the women have started to look like Tifa Lockhart only when they've gotten all their plastic surgery out of the way.
Look, when a jap product makes a handsome or beautiful character, they’re not making them white. They’re just using the universal traits that all people find attractive. To say that they are white because of facial traits you associate with whites are wrong.
>lockhart
>not white
>not the user but...
O MY,
KAIROS
MEME
HOW ACCURATE
YOU ARE!
(On serious note) One can argue for likes of Cloud,Aeris/th(whatever) and even Turks (like Reno and Elena) as they do have Nip features despite light eye/hair color.
But Cid, Shinra or Sephiroth, don't have Nip features or look as one.
Yeah, no shit, and the average American doesn’t look like Tom Cruise either. The only difference is your media shows you beautiful white people all day so you get the idea that the average person looks like that.
They traits they show are traits almost exclusive to White people. Whether or not the character themselves are White or whatever the case may be, that's just the beauty standard that they willingly conform and standardize themselves to.
Yes and you are retarded. MOST people are ugly, so is presenting attractive people “cherry picking” now? As it is not the norm. Plenty of Japs also happen to look like this. They aren’t always an unatractive people, just like us.
Nomura makes everyone look fucking asian
Well my name is now emporor saito shitokun now i decided. i hope you respect that this name is a far more important indicator of my race than mu blue eyes and caucasian face.
I fucking thought so. No one can fucking do it. Cloud is asian. End of story.
NO SHIT user NOW YOU ARE GETTING IT. KEEP PUTTING THE PIECES TOGETHER. THAT JAP MAN MAKES JAP CHARACTERS FOR HIS JAP AUDIENCE. WOAH!
Tom Cruise is attractive because he has the right collection of features and the facial symmetry, not because he has features that are not typical of the population. The media doesn't actually like to show "beautiful" White people as much as you seem to think, either.
>changing it now is equally to be born with it which implies her parents were not asian
Again, you ignore the literall self evident faces and focus on a fantasy name. Hmm...
Is Shantae Turkish???
She's double-eyelided, has white skin, thin lips, light hair, light brown eyes, and a straight and narrow nose. Those are traits that come more from Whites than Asians, typically.
You know the rule of how it goes in FF-verse.
If they aren't Nips then they're David Bowie.
That has nothing to do with the traits present in the typical genome in one group and the comparative preponderance of these traits in comparison with the traits expressed in the genome of other groups. It's not an argument of "attraction".
I have met Japanese whiter than i am. Im german decsent. I don’t understand this “yellow” thing entireley they just seem tan to me.
And the same shit applies to most celebrities, asian or otherwise
Ok and Tifa looks asian af, just as that girl did, your point?
They do have a different skin tone, it's just toned down a lot because of umbrellas and tons of makeup.
No, she doesn't have a mustache.
Her face is very clearly neotenous. Something more prevalent in asians. Anyone who says otherwise is pretty autistic.
Back when i first played FF7 i thought she looked italian
No. Final Fantasy 7 had a very clear Asian-expy area, but Tifa was from Nibelheim, which was very obviously not Asian and more Nordic/German.
Yuffie is definitely Asian, though.
Asians are more varied cause the skin allows them to absorb more melanin. They tend to be light skinned at birth, and tan accordingly.
Source: am one. I was light skinned as fuck up until I was around 7, and started playing outside in the sun 3 hours a day, 5 days a week for years, and my skin's more olive now.
Okay but you do agree that can exist in that apearance one way or another, so why is Tifa any diffirent? She simply exists as that umbrella/make up ideal.
>playing VII again now that I can read moon
Its kinda fun to see what all the shit I couldn't read on the maps back then means.
Yeah Yuffie is a super Japanese name user.
this
same with cloud
Bitch in the middle is actually kinda cute.
Do you not think about what this stems from or the broader context of different traits or are you just going to continue to shut your brain off and cherrypick and avoid the issue, user?
>yiffie kisaragi
Kisaragi is as japanese as it gets.
>but Tifa was from Nibelheim, which was very obviously not Asian and more Nordic/German.
Woah user! How do asians even exiat in the west?! I grew up with a qt asian as fuck girl called “mary” HOW THE FUCK WAS THIS POSSIBLE?? HER DAD WAS WHITE TOO SO HER SURNAME WAS WHITE WTF??
She's anime + japs' incompetence at modeling faces.
Are you going to keep denying Tifa’s clearly asian traits and all evidence as cherry picking?? Or are you going to source your claims.
Desperate.
>her one name can be disregarded but her other name is the one that matters
??? Sounds like names are a far worse indicator than aesthetics user.
>dad was obviously white
>mom was obviously white
>born in an all-white secluded mountain village
>somehow she's Asian for real I swear!
Come on.
She's from Nibelheim
No this thread is desperate. I dont know why everyone is so triggered by a asian tifa, are you all out of arguments now? Asians that move dont exist??
Yes, the real question is if Aris is Jewish?
Are you really not aware of the difference between a given name and a family name?
Are you genuinely retarded or just that desperate to prove your waifu is GRORIOUS NIPPONESE?
Holy fuck are you buttmad that asians actually make them white.
It's also funny how they all have western last names. Except for yuffie of course
>dad was obviously white
>mom was obviously white
>born in an all-white secluded mountain village
No it isn’t. Hence the seen from space butthurt AC and all other follow ups of Tifa have caused. They actually aren’t clearly white at all, they are clearly all asian. Sorry about reality user.
Pretending to be retarded is not an argument.
Please try again if you're expecting a serious answer.
Plastic surgery is a Korean meme, not a Japanese one. I am so sick of hearing about this in every thread that has even some tangential connection to Japanese women
In general these threads make a good case for banning all Americans from the site.
They aren't incompetent, they are achieving exactly the results they are after. By this logic every cube is just a failed sphere.
Ok?
>AC
>reality
lolol
>a name is a more important indicator of her genes than her physical ones
Are you? Also why are all the signs in moon in midgar??
These traits aren't Asian. The second you quit cherrypicking and go outside is the second this discussion moves on. The only point that might be conceded is the neotonality as another user pointed out, but obviously that's just the way Sony renders their CG.
>no u! Everyone! Disregard his posts IMMEDIATLY!
Oh wow.
Yes they are. Hence the buttmad to the point that people literally say AC doesn’t count and that they look that way “by accident” LOL
>Plastic surgery is a Korean meme, not a Japanese one.
It's less prevalent because they are more accepting of their natural traits but they're still chinky.
See you for the remake no doubt.