What happened with Quake Champions

Played it during the beta and found the player base flat lining at around 300 on steam.

What happened?

Lack of publicity after reveal
Also the initial Bethesda Laucher only
turned a lot of people off
Anyway, Im waiting for the actual release
Maybe it gets enougth players to lower the queue below 10 minutes

The what now?

Holy shit, it's still in early access?

Poor marketing and lack of updates might also be the reason. But perhaps people have simply moved on from arena shooters

early access meme deflating any possible chance of a hype launch bringing larger attention
as it is in beta for a large portion of the time it has been unplayable due to server/game issues still needing to be ironed out
difficult games aren't popular

team quake: fortress champions 3 is what happened. The game is trying to copy overmeme and team fortress, what the fuck did you think was going to happen?

What are the chances of a revival during the official release?

What would they have to do?

Explain "overmeme."

Is this the one where you can play as a girl?

lurk moar faggot nigger

Not the meaning of the term, the factors the developers contributed to the memeing

From someone in the hardcore audience:
Hit boxes are fucked
Netcods is really bad for a quake game
Duel is pretty bad because of certain champions actives really shitting on balance
Champions are sill horribly balanced.

Why do people even bother making multiplayer games anymore? Only the meme of the month games attract all the players, and getting that audience is a matter of luck.

lurk moar

Are arena shooters just not meant to have varied characters?

Do any long time early access titles gather any momentum ever, when finally officially released?

Arena shooters are about your base skill with the weapons provided. You're confusing arena shooter with team based shooter. Overwatch and TF2 for example. Quake Champions is trying to be both, and failing miserably at it because bethesda wants that overwatch money

Not true at all

>not true
>Doesn't follow up with anything else
okay fag

Subnautica and Pit People; just to name a couple

It was a bad idea not putting it on the consoles.

Explain

Would a arena shooter really have an audience with console players?

The whole point of arena shooters is pin point accuracy.

It would triple their player count, thus tripling the games exposure. Accuracy? You don't think people really give a shit about this, do you?

Go be poor somewhere else, console peasant

Wrong, retard.

With an arena shooter, I would think it would be one of the game's core concept

>WHY ISN'T IT ON CONSOLE
>LOL RETARD
Jesus christ man get your shit together

>Taking an old concept/IP, hyping it up as the second coming of said concept/IP, then ruining it through greed and half-assedry
Nothing new here.

Well its nothing like TF or overwatch. Yes, there are abilities but they are not used or designed like ones from OW. You don't use them to cover or synergize with each other. They core combat is not based around building them up. Besides the presence of abilities the overall design of both games varies greatly. TF and OW are focused on holding chokepoints for set periods of time with limited flank routes. QC is built like other arena shooters, large maps with central areas and lots of complicated pathways intertwined around it. The game also does not limit weapons to different classes/characters and nearly all of them need to be picked up within the map. The movement system is completely different and there are powerups present.


The games do not play similar. They both have abilities, thats where the similarities end.

Matchmaking

Well I get the half-assedry part, but it was a free to play.

The real issue would be if the locked champions truly made a severe difference in the gameplay due to balancing issues. Was this the case?

Its not out yet.

Dear god it has matchmaking? Dead on arrival

You get your shit together you fucking faggot. How can you not understand the point in getting to make. You think normies give a shit about accuracy or competitive play? They just want to buya fucking game, play with it for five minutes and then go back to Facebook. They can fucking care less about being good at it or not. Rainbow six and overwatch are competitive games yet they make twice of their money on consoles because that's where the money is. How can I make this more fucking clear to you?

turns out adding moba shit in it killed it.

>SEETHING

The best arena shooters are on console right now, so it's the only audience really.

If they release with the inevitable clan arena patch it might be ok.

I stopped bothering with qc because while waiting around for matchmaking I'd just look at the ql server browser and play that instead immediately if there was a server populated. God I hate sitting in a queue with no idea of whether or not anyone else is queuing too.

Terrible netcode thats so bad it makes rocket launchers useless.

Released on shitty Bethesda launcher for free and paid on Steam. That's pretty much it for me.

Bethesda launcher is so awful it was unable to update my game until recently(because it's buggy shit, if you hadn't seen that coming), so even though I felt like playing it more than once, it wouldn't even allow it. If they want to sabotage their own product what can I fucking do?

I did enjoy it and played it a lot some months back.

>make hitboxes that are literally pixel perfect
>make moving animations completely fucked
>release the worst netcode ever made for an arena shooter
>make mega and red Armour not even worth fighting over
>add no private servers for new players to play fun game modes
>say its in """"""""""beta""""""""""""
>add casualwatch like abilities that no one ever asked for
What could go wrong LMAO?

But Bethesda are the masters of quality control...

Got tired of all the batshit bugs and poor optimization. Once the bug where it turned out you did more damage the higher your framerate was discovered, I uninstalled.

From what I understand the Champion system was a way to adds some new factors into the arena shooter genre

It would give reasons for patches and updates so the game would stay fresh. This was the core reason old quake sort of petered out. The game was mastered. There was nothing new. There was one way to play the game and if you diverted from that one path, you were shooting yourself in the leg

It's an attempt from diverting from a hardcore audience into something more mainstream.

But seeing on how rooted Quake is into that hardcore gameplay, was it doomed from the start?

They just need to have a new character or game mode to add interest again.

This desu. The publishers/devs are completely incompetent, they should just release the source code and let the fans fix it like always. This is without even counting the number of shitty bugs and glitches that took months to fix.

example plez?

>tiny hitbox
>jank as fuck animations
>shitty netcode
Only Bethesda could be so retarded...

almost every one of them because steam promotes them pretty hard on the front page when they release.

Halo 5 and Splatoon 2

The core game isn't bad. It's just too late to do anything with it in it's current form. If you really want to watch it succeed, here's what you have to do:
>Kill Quake Champions
>Add a single player campaign
>Port to IDTech 6
>Improve netcode
>No more free to play
>You start with all characters. New characters and outfits cost micro-transactions.
>Add a few more modes
>Add the Dragonborn and some Fallout shit as playable characters
>Allow players to host their own servers, and add new maps via Steam Greenlight
>Release on console, but with a different tacked on multiplayer that targets console users (Outsource it and release as an Overwatch Clone?)
>Re-release as Quake 5
>Launch marketing campaign comparing the game to DOOM 2016, and focusing on shit that attracts new players (Single player, the roster, ect)

Don't forget red and mega having the same timer so duels are either tradesies or the up player running both and you can't do shit to change it.

those are not fun enough to be arena shooters

.........

meme all you want, it's true