Anyone else put off by the demo? Im gonna wait until I can get it used cheap, or they patch it.
>6-7 second loads for every door. Leak confirms this is the way the game is built and not just the demo. >30 fps >No online in a co-op heavy game, in 2018 >very bland, nothing to make it stand out from other Kirbys >AI is alright but still has some issues.
Also the rumors of DLC from the leaks.
Julian Reed
Yeah, game looks pretty, but If I'm not gonna be challenged, what's the point.
Tyler Ramirez
>leaks confirmed ahahahahahaha
also no, I think it's very good
Aaron Kelly
The demo was datamined, its pretty hard to refute
Jason Smith
It's okay game. I like the powerups but it's just another Kirby game with floaty controls. No thanks.
Jordan Edwards
>Also the rumors of DLC from the leaks The fuck are you talking about?
Connor Edwards
If the Final Boss' theme is good then the game is redeemed.
Sebastian Perez
Datamined demo confirmed some abilties and recruitable friends were taken out but looks they are partly still there to add in as dlc or updates
Oliver Sanders
When the third or fourth load screen popped up I said aloud, >Is this Sonic 06? There’s no reason visually for the framerate to be as low as it is. Game honestly feels like it was developed by a b team.
Andrew Ross
>No online in a co-op heavy game, in 2018 This seriously bothers me What the fuck is Nintendo's beef with online multi? They only put it in games where you can play in short 2-3 minute matches.
Grayson Davis
There's a surprising lot of shaders and high poly in the environments, that go deep into the foreground and background (that is then obscured with depth of field, kinda making it worthless..). I can see why the Switch would have trouble running this at 60fps, especially when it does seem to be 1080p on TV. People forget the Switch is nowhere near as powerful as 8th gen consoles
Juan Rogers
The demo ran like garbage. I'll wait until the game is out for a while to see if I want it or not.
Liam Rogers
If the allies weren't such a big part of the game I'd probably love it despite the 30fps and loading times. I like playing in handheld mode, so the other NPCs and their abilities obscure things for me.
Joshua Edwards
Nintendo always has hated online, its the contrarian in them, have to be unique. So everyone else focuses on online support but them
Wyatt Cox
The only thing there is Magolor as a friend and he was cut rather early.
Blake Cruz
>only 4 worlds OH NO NO NO NO HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHA
Aaron Davis
game looks super pretty but why the fuck does it feel like the game freezes every time kirby floats. i just skated through the whole level because the speed felt nice
John Jenkins
>Last world is bigger than the previous 3 combined >Essentially Milky Way Wishes 2 >Has more actual stages than Robobot You should have come to blunderfag earlier
Hudson Baker
To get comfy.
Ryan Garcia
Sup Eric
Isaac Ramirez
when are we gonna get a 3d gameplay kirby game
Grayson Garcia
>6/7 second load times at every door
was it really necessary for them to push this game out so soon
Henry Peterson
They had to fill switch's release gap. Wii U ports just isn't enough
Caleb Collins
I dont see anyway Kirby can work in 3D. But the team has not really done anything to innovate or improve 2D Kirby in years either.
Unless the next title can seriously innovate I think Kirby needs to be retired for a good long while. Why waste dev teams on the same game over and over?
Ayden Mitchell
Stuff could still be changed in the final, even if unlikely.
Okay, so continuing from last thread. Like... what's even the point of posting here if the devs don't see our feedback? Sharing the experience? A) There hasn't been an experience in any Nintendo game since 2011, and, B) A good chunk of that enthusiasm is lost over the internet.
So that only leaves trying to pound each other into a hivemind in order to create a singular sales trend towards games that are quality/the majority enjoys. Yet, if anything, the sales go to whatever is released and new, so there's no hope there, anyway.
What's the point? What's the bloody point? Do we need to be sending "The Results of Our Findings" PowerPoints to Nintendo corporate or something?
Benjamin Williams
Probably not too far into the future seeing as we got Kirby 3D Rumble and Kirby's Blowout Blast.
Levi Diaz
>DLC fucking where? never heard anything like that from the leaks
also yeah, demo was underwhelming to say the least but if the leaks are true, I'm still buying day one. I do hope they patch it though
Jose Murphy
>giving him free (yous) there's an old saying around here, stop feeding the troll
Brody Ortiz
That’s only for the demo. The leak said nothing about load times
Blake Johnson
if you want a ton of challenge, this game wasn't made for you anyway. It'll have some challenge but it isn't gonna kill you
Nathaniel Sullivan
>everyone who criticises a bad game MUST be the mythical Eric
Delusion
Parker Butler
Let's face the facts, everybody. There's no denying that Kirby Shart Allies is shaping up to be one of the worst games that Nintenturd's shat out in years. It quite possibly might be 2018's Mass Effect Andromeda, and all the posts in this thread prove it.
Owen Wilson
Ill wait and see, canceled my pre-order already
Alexander Robinson
No, it just means that Nintendo are being jews. Kirby should be a $30 title honestly. But for full price its a dissapointing game
Daniel Mitchell
>Another Eric thread
Jeremiah Sanchez
>THe leak said nothing about load times Yeah, but GameXplain said it makes the friend train sections really annoying.
proberbly won't be a real good comfy Kirby thread for awhile due to all the shitposting about frame rates.
hopefully it dies down when the game comes out
Adrian Mitchell
I would link you guys to the real thread, but I'm afraid shitposters will follow me there.
Luis Ward
>very bland
So it's a Kirby game? Don't get me wrong, Kirby games are fun, but they're some of the most vanilla games one could possibly play. It's just mindless good feels
Ryan Turner
That's not what they mean by bland. They mean it doesn't really have a theme like PR or do anything crazy different like SSU. basically it's the RTDL clone complaint
Brayden Reyes
>Also the rumors of DLC from the leaks. That's blatantly untrue. There's nothing in the leaks that suggests DLC.
Julian Rivera
But it has ten fewer levels than Robobot. Nice try.
Joseph Myers
The 10 levels less than Robobot leak was confirmed bullshit
Brandon Kelly
>No source
Carter Diaz
>first party Nintendo games depreciating in price ever
Not even you can be that ignorant.
John Hill
Robobot(not counting Star Dream) 41 levels (Actually 35 if we discount boss only levels) Star Allies(not counting Void Termina) 40 levels (with bosses at the end of full levels)
Adrian Sullivan
What are used copies, what is craigslist/ebay
They never go on sale but its not hard to save 20-30 bucks on them secondhand
Gabriel Martinez
Yeah I cancelled my preorder. Now I just have Dark Souls to look forward to and I'm not even excited about that
Kevin Wright
I don't agree with that notion in that the 2D games had always have something unique added to them. The last few ones may get a lot of slack, but they still did something different to be their own game.
Bentley Butler
>No online in a co-op heavy game Its Nintendo, they always push for local split-screen co-op and multiplayer. Get some friends bruh, I still play with bros 20 years every week
Grayson Kelly
>>No online in a co-op heavy game, in 2018
this triggers me, not everyone has their friends around the corner
Liam Wilson
I think basically everyone cancelled their preorder bro. That's what happens when you put a $60 pricetag on what is basically half a game. Expect sales to tank hard.
Brandon Walker
why not have local and online at the same time?
Joseph Gray
I really wanted to play it because of the drought but the price does not equal the content especially since you can beat it without kirby doing anything
David Wood
>especially since you can beat it without kirby doing anything Sadly this is entirely accurate. Shills will try to damage control it though. No wonder preorders are bombing.
Nicholas Cooper
Yeah well why not have both so I can play with my internet friends too. Theres no excuse not to have it, just Nintendos bizzare hangup about online.
Grayson Barnes
>sub 30fps >focuses on coop but no online >is so laughably easy I don't think anyone above 5 would enjoy it Fuck these in particular.
Jace Martin
Probably because they haven't finished their paid online system yet. Imagine if they release a patch for the game when online fully launch and then you're able to play online with friends and randoms? They could be withelding that to promote the service.
Grayson Perez
Shart Allies Full Walkthrough >start up the game >go to the first level >recruit 2-3 allies >put down the controller and do something else for 3-5 hours >come back >you're already at the final boss B-BUT IT'S COMFY!!!!!
Kayden Evans
Basically everyone has acknowledged these as fact at this point. If you are above 5 and think that Shart Allies is a good game, fuck off back to your discord circlejerk and let the adults discuss the downfall of 2018's Mass Effect Andromeda.
Christopher Hernandez
>No run button, analog movement >Move the camera wherever you want to >For powers, each unused face button uses different attacks for multi-move abilities to translate to 3D >Limited flight like 64 and Air Ride >Levels are designed both vertically and horizontally with flight in mind, they should be big playgrounds with plenty to accomplish, branches, and a few "end" points >Some returning locations. DL1/2/3's, KA's, and SS's locations should be the template of bringing Dream Land to life >KDL3-tier and Epic Yarn-tier side/background characters that behave like NPCs in OoT or Shenmue, to make the word feel alive and to open up side-goal potential. Kirby's world is full of cute characters, it would be nice to have some interaction with them >Dedede, Meta Knight, and DL1 bosses can be found and fought/interacted with in the game if you know where to look, but focus on new characters and new villains. >Kirby's color scheme changes with certain powers, other powers turn him that orange-pink from Super Star >Multi-move abilities >The original 3 DL2 friends with Kirby's multi-move powers >Rick: Quicker running, immunity to slippery surfaces, and wall-jumps, but you're a bigger target with less precise attacks >Coo: Good maneuverability in the air, and you can go higher and stay in the air longer, but it's harder to master the controls and again you're a bigger target. Slower than Kirby on the ground. >Kine: Makes swimming fast and easy, his powers are strong, but he's clumsy and weaker on land. Jumps well enough though >Around Super Star's amount of copy abilities, the ones that are in the game can be leveled up several times and moves can be unlocked, augmented, and/or upgraded as you progress >Bonus hats/weapons, house decorations, and color spray cans(including standard pink if you don't want him changing colors with abilities) can be found in treasure chests throughout the game.
John Phillips
I'm curious how hard soul melter difficulty would be
Juan Williams
Thats retarded, it probably wont ever get online unless it impacts sales. Its a main reason Im passing.
Would be fine if it was a normal solo kirby, but the game is centered on co-op.
Christopher Ortiz
Laughably easy just like the rest of the """"""""game""""""" >infinite lives >can call helpers with no penalty >the only thing that happens when you die is you lose points that don't do anything c-comfy...
Angel Jenkins
me and a friend are also passing this because no online coop
Austin Adams
Everyone is passing this for so many reasons. Launch sales will be a fucking disaster. How can a game get so hated so quickly?
Landon Taylor
>Everyone lmao
Joshua Nguyen
You never played a Kirby game, have you? Do you even know what True Arena is?
Robert Cooper
>Do you even know what True Arena is? It's not in this game because difficulty is problematic.
Landon Richardson
Preordered it to play with my cute asian gf because she likes cute games and it’ll be fun multiplayer. Single fags btfo
Ian Rogers
Post them.
Lincoln Walker
Sadly not, even though its clearly rushed and lazy. Its serviceable, but nowhere near worth $60.
Sadly gaming journalism refuses to criticize Nintendo now, I have not seen one reviewer, independent or otherwisr say a single bad thing about the game. Its being shilled hard and will do fine. Which sucks because it gives Nintendo no reason to patch it.
Grayson Moore
>tfw pretty much everyone agrees Shart Allies is going to be a collossal piece of trash but bought reviewers will say otherwise Feels bad man. At least we can redpill the Metacritic user reviews with low scores.
>Kumazaki turds >good LEL!
>Preordered it Only a marketer would claim they preordered 2018's Mass Effect Andromeda at this point. Everyone ITT fucking hates it.
Christian Martinez
>all these negative posts with nobody debating them This can only be a thread discussing a fucking Hindenburg-grade bomb.
Elijah Gonzalez
I agree its bad but can you fuck off with your Shart Allies meme, its cringe and no ones going to use it
Anthony Thompson
That's how you deal with bait, you just ignore it, opposed at what you just did.
Connor Murphy
Just gave the demo a try, and I have to say: while I enjoyed it more than I thought I would, at the same time it left me super confused.
I initially complained in some old thread about how it looked like Nintendo forced the multiplayer mechanic to differentiate this Kirby game from others, and while I still believe this, I'm glad HAL implemented this in a way it wouldn't handicap you like whoa. Yes, the helpers are most likely gonna be needed to solve specific areas & puzzles and enter specific doors, but at the same time you can both create and get rid of them so quickly that it becomes almost a non issue for me. Heck, you can even swallow them alive if you feel like being the pink jerk Kirby sometimes is. I just fought Dedede just with Kirby and I didn't feel I was in a disadvantage in any moment.
All being said, I've to admit I wasn't fond of the framerate. While I usually never complain about games with 30 FPS, the fact the game switches it back and forth between gameplay and menu/loading screens is really jarring, making me wonder just what the hell HAL did to ruin it like this. The 3DS games ran smoothly, and other than an increase in pixels, I don't see anything that should be causing it other than poor optimization.
I liked the demo and I'm buying the full game once I've got the money, but I also really hope they adress the framerate in the future, 'cause it gave me very mixed signals.
>It quite possibly might be 2018's Mass Effect Andromeda
Lol wut. Not even close
>even though its clearly rushed and lazy.
Only hint of lazyness for me lies in the game's optimization and reliance to loading screens. Everything else was pretty gud
Brody Robinson
>opinions I don't like are bait Enjoying your $60 half-game? 4 worlds 10 less levels than robobot
$0.0001 was deposited into your My Nintendo account.
Matthew Rivera
We get it, you hate the game for some reason. I'm not fond of it either and don't plan to get it at the moment, but we don't really need you shitting up the threads in such blatantly samefaggy way.
Angel Smith
>Only hint of lazyness for me lies in the game's optimization and reliance to loading screens. Ignoring the fact that the game has only 4 worlds, has 10 less levels than PR, has no True Arena, and can literally beat itself for you. >the face of a shill when his game gets exposed by Sup Forumsirgins
Christian Carter
>That DL3 opinion wow just fucking wow
Jose Lewis
>Ignoring the fact that the game has only 4 worlds, has 10 less levels than PR Do you even read the thread?
Lucas Mitchell
I actually agree with him. DL3 is way too fucking slow.
Jaxon Smith
What the fuck is wrong with Nintendo and their pricing strategy lately? Charging $60 for shovelwares like 1-2-Switch, ARMS, and now this shit. And yet most Switch owners would happily swallow these overpriced turds down their throat, as evidenced by the sales figures. This will just encourage Nintendo to release more $30 shovelwares priced at $60.
Brody Thomas
>no online >they want you to give them money to play online later this year
Oliver Ramirez
Looks fun. Gonna buy it day one.
Andrew Brooks
>Ignoring the fact that the game has only 4 worlds
And we don't know how big the levels are yet exploration-wise. The game being short on worlds is definitively a shame tho.
>has no True Arena
Apparently they replaced the difficulty system with the one Kid Icarus Uprising uses, and considering the datamine confims the bosses get enhanced rematches of sorts, I can't see it truly gone.
>and can literally beat itself for you.
So can Kirby Super Star.
Henry Flores
You just answered your question. The only thing we can do is post justified negative scores on the Metacritic user reviews for this """"""""game"""""""" and laugh at the retards that unironically enjoy it.
Grayson Sanders
I don't have one but Adventure, Super Star, and 64 are the best ones.
Benjamin Harris
What kept RTD from being the best Kirby game?
Luke Evans
Ignore the borb
Ian Hill
It tried to be New Kirby's Adventure
Eli Powell
i cant get used to the 30fps. sure its pretty but it looks choppy. though i doubt the majority of normies would care, which is why nintendo did it in the first place.
Aaron Lee
Same. I thought I could, too.
Andrew Lee
>the most expensive Kirby game ever is the one with the least amount of content What did HAL mean by this?
Ethan Wright
They can serve literal shit on a plate for $1000 and people would eat it up >4 worlds, 30 levels, no True Arena! Kirby Star Allies, only $80* >*no refunds
Lucas Miller
It wasn't Kirby GCN. Kumazaki is not an ambitious director. He clearly loves Kirby and he's very reliant on reused assets and callbacks, he is the king of "good enough, release it fast".