>Overwatch >Blizzards biggest IP >sold millions >made billions >PvE event is released >it's just a tiny map and a bunch of braindead training mobs blindly rushing the objective >2 years in a row
>Rainbow Six: Siege >Ubisoft's biggest flop of 2015 >sold so little it almost died >made peanuts >PvE event is released >4 minutes of high quality CGI intros for new missions >3 large completely unique maps >multiple new enemy types with unique AI
Seriously, what the fuck? How can biggest game of this decade be BTFO so much?
Landon Baker
>>sold millions >made billions
>made billions
ahahahha hahaha haha haha hahahahaha OK
Colton Hall
Do some research, chucklefuck.
Andrew Campbell
They did, more than half of their profit come from micro-transactions...
Levi Reyes
the difference is one is polished and remained so, at launch and even with every update siege on the other hand? BAHAHAHAHAH AND AT LAUNCH? LOLOLOLOL i prefer siege tho
Asher Martinez
>Siege is innovative >Overwatch is derivative
There ya go.
Michael Nelson
Overwatch was made to sell skins
Carson Thomas
Overwatch is casual trash made for people that don't want high skill ceiling games.
Gameplay wise siege is infinitely better but their jew skins and releasing pay to win OP operators and not fixing them for 6 months is fucking annoying.
Daniel Richardson
>multiple new enemy types with unique AI
This is the bit I have an issue with, the AI for them is basically terrorist hunt AI but with zero range.
Hell even on Pandemic with the triple smasher spawns you can just get one guy to kite them slowly around the map as your team clears trash
Apex are the only dangerous enemies because of the spawning and how much health they have
James Ross
>Zero incentive to play PvE other than once on Normal and once on Pandemic, unless you care about Funko Pop charms >Event-themed lootboxes attainable exclusively via the store other than the 4 free ones in an attempt to get you hooked >Give away a free """elite""" skin that's just a stripped down version of the real MTX one as an apology >Don't change anything else about the event >Except raise the Renown and R6 credits price of seasonal skins on the side without telling anyone I feel sorry for the people who put actual effort into Outbreak maps and enemies, but it's all flash and no substance. If you're the kind of cunt who gets wowed by capeshit movies in IMAX, yeah, this event's great, but it's every bit as shallow as OW's PvE events while also less rewarding.
Logan Morgan
>Operation Chimera >good
No. Outbreak was a terrible idea to begin with, and executed terribly too.
>limited operators for some reason >one of chosen is fucking ying of all people >run and gun as opposed to focused on stealth like TLOU >people can leave mid match completely fucking you because no one can join >no actual PVP map this season
Andrew Young
Ying is one of the best operators for it just because of the LMG mate
Her gadget is also a big "get off" for when you get jobbed in the final stand
Elijah Morales
>no actual pvp map fuck off seriously?
Jonathan Phillips
I agree with you, except it's not necessarily run and gun. There's actual stealth, or something that tries to pass for stealth. If you shoot infected civilians before they sprout dildos, they won't get buffed and won't attract others. There's a little icon in the bottom left.
Siege is only getting one new map this year.
James Wilson
We got back Yacht, but we lost Bartlett, thats all that changed for maps.
Aiden Jones
Play through it once or twice and go back to multiplayer. Even when you finish you don't get shit but a tiny bit of renown.
Elijah Adams
Well, get got Yacht back, in exchange for Bartlett being put into the bin.
Honestly I'd have just taken removing Bartlett because fuck that map
Joshua Wright
>completely different genres >completely different styles >why are they different? fucking retards
Cooper Ross
Because OW is made for casual soyboys and gamer gurlz and RB6 is made for people who aren't retarded [but are still somewhat spergs]
Ian Morris
>siege is only getting one map this year considering every dlc map has been trash so far except maybe border and the jap one im not that mad >Bartlett is gone thank fuck
Landon White
Why didn't they spend all this time on good multiplayer content that made the game good in the first place.
Josiah Taylor
?
Xavier Taylor
>for some reason explain how helpful mute would be in this situation
I'm not that mad either, they're instead doing map reworks this year. First up is the training camp map, that one gets a full makeover.
I just wish they did it for Chimera instead of this Outbreak shit.
Liam Roberts
did they even rework yacht?
Jackson Gonzalez
>limited operators for some reason Operators like Jäger would be next to useless and Operators like Blitz would be OP. By limiting the Operators they can design the maps a specific way while having to balance less Operators
Lucas Bell
What about using Blitz? Zofia? Capitao? Castle? Rook? Sledge? Monty? Ela? Hibana?
Evan Harris
Blizzard ain't what they used to be. Nowadays they get praise for no reason from critics and fanboys
Carter Rivera
Being a pvp shooter and has teams are incredibly broad descriptions, especially since the team aspect is so different. The style, the combat flow, the objectives, the map, the gameplay etc. are all completely different and literally incomparable on many levels.
Christopher Young
Same thing happened with For Honor. Some weird fuckups really do damage to the game despite fucking gravy gameplay. For Honor is easily the best combat system to ever come out of the western hemisphere and the idea of a MP melee based on it is genius, but a few balance problems and refusal to use dedicated servers until now fucked it.
Jayden Garcia
I didn't get it at all last night, so I'm not sure. I don't think it was, I just don't know for sure.
Angel Clark
the short and easy answer is "we didn't want to pay for that many voice actors in a one-off limited time mode" also hibana wouldn't be useful at all here
Gabriel Clark
>Blitz? >Monty? Shields are useless against mutants. >Castle? Reinforcements are useless against breachers, will break the pacing at early stages when only grunts spawn. >Rook? Doesn't protect vs melee damage afaik. >Sledge? Kinda useless aside from using Sledge for melee. >Hibana? Mutants don't reinforce.
>Zofia? >Capitao? >Ela? Granted.
Hunter Reyes
That means that you can't put effort into your events?
Andrew James
>he doesn't know
Jack Jackson
>sending a madman out into the apocalypse with a sledge hammer would be cool as fuck desu lads
Caleb Jones
still the same.
Ryder Green
You have got to be fucking kidding me.
Juan King
>almost two whole years >Sup Forums is STILL crying about Overwatch
Gabriel Lopez
yeah, now I see that you are completely right, they are completely different games with different goals! I forgot OW was a skin shop for target audience who can't play shooters. Now that I remembered, it all makes sense
Ethan Jones
They are reworking other maps. Yacht is fairly fine currently other than the top floor objective's