Buy the game because of how hyped it is in Sup Forums

>buy the game because of how hyped it is in Sup Forums
>so many fighting mechanics removed from the game
>auto combo spam galore

I I really expected this to be a good game. Why the fuck is Sup Forums always wrong?

>auto combo spam galore
auto combos are fucking worthless lmao

not only are you shit at the game you're shit at pretending to be good at it too

What fighting mechanics were removed?

>Auto-combo spam gallore
How about you get out of the 3rd rank online before you make rash judgements about the game's meta you casual.

Hm....

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Is there a legitimate reason for the roster being so pathetic? Look at Budokai Tenkaichi 3.

You have left the lobby.

>lose 96% of the playerbase in a month
>dlc is more goku
>online is shit
>gay furry, king of shit games, dominating

are you a blue square?

>no combo breaker mechanic

I literally won't even touch this game.

>Gets hit once and juggled for 40 seconds

No thank you, sir.

Actual balance of characters. Some are better, but all are viable.

THIS SHOULD BE ENTERTAINING

Yeah for balance you dumb dumb, what kind of game do you actually expect to have with a roaster of 150 characters, some were completely broken on purpose while others were broken on accident, bardock can stun lock you for the entire fight, super fun. Omega has 6 life bars and his ultra DECIMATES your hp.

>shit at this game.
I've played multiple fighting games and the game feels shallow to other arcsys games such as GG. even pro players have mentioned the game will be very easy to figure out.


I will give you my biggest gripe, movement. This game has far more limited options than something like Marvel 3 for an example

Three reasons probably. DLC plan, getting the game out quick enough and having decent character balance.

>prefers to block a string and wait his turn to fight back

Pathetic.

Movement is fine, many characters have free teleports, some have multiple teleports.

>I've played multiple fighting games
so? doesn't imply you're any good at them

if you genuinely think "auto combo spam" is a problem you're a massive scrub, guarantee I'd destroy you at this game.

Yeah this anons righ. The best thing auto combos are for is helping you strong your own combo together, and even then you should be doing other things, i guess it depends on the character

Don't listen these It's because they're two different engines. Tenkaichi uses an engine where modeling characters is hilariously easy. Even hobby modders can create a shitload of new characters.
Meanwhile DBFZ uses ArcSys unique UE modelling technique where every frame you see is a different 3d model with specific shaders.
That technique however makes creating characters a huge chore and only swapping colors is easy.
You might see some DBFZ mod videos but they always look like shit in comparison to the real deal.

tl:dr ArcSys' rendering technique doesn't allow for many characters.

auto combos have an incredibly limited use in a few optimal combos, you'll certainly get no use "spamming" them and they are hopeless in the neutral game

for example Vegeta's most damaging BnB requires you to end it with 3 hit auto combo because if you attempt to the combo manually he doesn't float high enough to hit the ender

No it isn't fine especially when you are comparing it to other fighting games. You are not looking at the over picture .Backdashing is shit and has to be used carefully can't be jump or crouch cancelled. Wavedashing doesn't exist. This is what makes fighting games good. DBFZ is a rush that shit down game that rewards the guy who mashes the most buttons

t. capcbro who plays at a bronze level. this game has more mechanics than you can count. certainly more than any other game except guilty gear. really showing your scrub level, shill

>limited options
Limited how? Most people complain with both superdash and a general teleport on top of character specific abilities there's too many options

>muh capcom boogey man.
Ive mentioned GG and other games in this thread so move on to the next attempt, brainlet

anyone who actually complains about auto combos is just letting everyone else know that they don't really have a clue as to what they're talking about.

post 30 seconds of you playing a fighting game

>muh mash fest no mechanix!!!
t. bronzy capcom shill who either never touched the game or cant get out of saibaman rank steamrolled by mashing noobs. my bet is you dont even know 20% of the mechanics in this game because it doesnt teach you them. go post your meme attention whoring posts on /vg/ where you belong.

It can't be removed if it wasn't in the game in the first place.

>You are not looking at the over picture
Then don't say they removed mechanics. Just say it is lacking, which is true regarding defensive options.

>This is what makes fighting games good.
So old school fighters aren't good because you can't wavedash nor jump cancel? Okay.

>pro players have mentioned the game will be very easy to figure out.

Easy to play =/= easy to win. If you don't believe me, look at SFV. Top Japanese players getting smashed by third world nobodies even though the game is "easy-mode."

It isn't just the lack of movement options its also defensive options and the neutral.Allmost no characters can actually use their special moves in neutral and link them into meaningful damage. I can't play this game without feeling most of the cast playing like another another from other fighting games. Its a fun game, but not as good as Guilty Gear , third strike or MvC3.

Fighterz has
Walk, Dash, Backstep, Airdash, Air backdash, Super Dash, Vanish, and character specific movement options. what does marvel have that's missing from this list?

plink dashing and triangle jumping

Idk, I played a lot of GG and honestly you could argue execution is easier, but honestly the game has enough to make it just as hard as whatever shit /fgg/ is shilling.

All that says is how luck based nu-fighters and Soy Fighter V have become.

>95% of Steam players gone
>less than 10% of PS4 owners have the Play 20 Casual game Trophy
>General on /vg/ slow as fuck
>Less entrants than SFV at Final Round, the first premiere tournament of the year
>Matchmaking and Lobby still broken

Not saying it's dead but it's basically just another regular fighting game instead of being the BEST THING EVER THATS GOING TO UNITE FANBASES AND CARRY THE FGC like people were shilling it for

Don't set your expectations to unrealistic standards and you can still enjoy the game and community. Nothing wrong with that

most specials can be linked into decent combos with a vanish or sometimes an assist. But you're right that nothing is free in fighterz.

air plink dashing
wavedashing etc etc

Only autistic people on v think like this.

the easiest way to spot a complete shitter is that they'll tell you autocombos are useless

Is this game even known to have good neutral? I was watching sonicfox's stream and he another players were just sitting on the opposite fishing for a superdash to counter

That's what tag fighters are son
If you want neutral play Jive, KoF, or maybe an anime fighter. Though anime fighters are still a bit dash and mashy but better than tagshit.

no, the normals are godawful for space control and without a mechanic like wavedashing or faultless defense you can't use your movement as a tool in neutral either
it's all about super dashing or using a normal/special that closes the gap and covering yourself with an assist

t. dumbfuck scrub who thinks he knows fighting games

they are except for a few niche combo extensions

Haha no replies faggot

FPBP
Lol are you actually retarded?

Can I be in the screencap?

16's autocombo is a literal 50/50 on block
cells corner loops are autocombo only
hit has autocombo only extensions
goku blue's autocombo is his bnb blockstring and leads into a high/low 50/50 every time
nappa has autocombo only corner setups

and these are only the characters I'm actually familiar with, tons of others like goku black and trunks have autocombo only moves that are better than their normals in neutral. it's fucking retarded

t. saibaman who thinks autocombos are useful except in a few niche situations which means theyre actually an advanced mechanic hidden as a noob mechanic

Yeah its a rushdown game, but when the neutral is random ass superdashes that somehow connect you know its fucking shit. Ive fucking had a discussion with a guy saying it has a good neutral and showed me clips of vanishes and dashes. This game is not complex and I find it funny that people are trying to circlejerk it as much as possible. Why can't you faggots just say it is a fun game and has good graphics while trying to justify as a complex fighting game

>They are hopeless in the neutral game
>Trunks and beerus adds a crossup you can't access without the autocombo, add an assist to increase usefulness
>Cyanku adds a retardedly slow but free overhead you can combo into
>Kid buu adds lows into whatever else he does

Nevermind the fact that this game is literally unga bunga tier of fighters. Even universal overheads have no consequences to them, about everything in this game is fucking safe.

>cell's best combo literally requires you to mash L
>advanced mechanic
lol

Plink dashing and wave dashing would be retarded in a game where characters have runs instead of dashes.

Yamcha's autocombo is pushback on block and can be canceled to special even on LLL as long as the last hit hasn't landed yet.

Triangle jump was specific to certain characters that can fly in MvC, plink dashing is a MvC only thing because several other anime fighters don't have any dash activated with buttons. They weren't "removed" that would imply it was ever an option or there was a game preceding DBFZ in a series.

Movement is fine.

Outside of street fighter no casual players stay for long especially for pc gaming

I had friends that bought the game and launch it once just to say "story mode suck" and never play it again.

Everyone thought they were going to get an another dbz budokai game.

DBFZ was the fighting game of the month and now everyone has returned to fortnite and pubg on pc.

>missing from this list
>removed

Are you stupid?

the movement is shit but the funny thing is that the entire system is so broken that fixing movement wouldn't even make the game better
everything is too safe and normals are too terrible for a better movement system to actually change how the game is played

>Movement is fine
>every normal pushes you forward
>walkspeed is at a snail pace
>flying characters can't fly
LMAO JUST LMAO

There are other options...?

I mean besides reflect and guard cancelling?

>so many fighting mechanics removed from the game
I will give you my biggest gripe, movement. This game has far more limited options than something like Marvel 3 for an example


Are you??

So, basically, competitive/e-sports/FGC-fags ruin everything once again?

>people who enjoy games ruined this game for me because I can't enjoy it
???

>I will give you my biggest gripe, movement. This game has far more limited options than something like Marvel 3 for an example

OP is stating that it lacks the movement options that MvC3 offered. Things like Chicken blocking and wave dashing are some of the many game mechanics not implemented in this game.

>Every normal doesn't push you forward, hopefully thats a typo and you aren't that stupid
>Walkspeed is slow and it was in MvC and is in most every anime fighter outside of dashing to promote aggression
>No one flying isn't a staple of DBZ but it is a staple of most air dashing games outside of MvC.

If you want to play MvC go play MvC, all you're doing is making it obvious you don't play this game at all and it seems you didn't play much MvC either.

Can you git gud at this game without a fighting pad?

SEETHING

No. Please buy our Hori pad.

>every normal pushes you forward
>walkspeed is at a snails pace
So are you complaining it's too easy to move forward or too hard?
>flying characters can't fly
Yeah, and Yamcha can beat Beerus in a fight what's your point?

Describe these super deep mechanics please arcshill

PS4 controller works fine for this game.

not him but other anons who replied to you already btfo you, glad to see you're so triggered you stay itt tho

t. ugly irl virgin with no friends

So we can all agree that DBFZ does not have the best mechanics, but is it fun?

Chicken blocking has less to do with movement and more to do with defensive options.

Again Wave dashing/plink dashing were specific to Marvel so why would they be implemented? It sounds like OP expected MvC with DBZ characters and got a standard anime fighter instead.

Honestly the only mechanic i really don't like is assists. they extend blockstrings way too much. It's a really fun game.

user. This is Sup Forums as long as it has DB in the title it's amazing.

Actually most bread and butter combos incorporate auto combos in t there structure.
For we reason Arial L>L auto combo has homing proprieties and is exactly the same thing as L>M same damage and animation and all except it wont whiff because of auto combo homing.
Or you have chars like Hit who basically plays around canceling his vanish attack in to the Autocombo special hit.

The game doesn't exactly play itself like some people think but it does use auto combos as a legit mechanic.

user, this is Sup Forums as long as it's a video game it's shit.
(you use a comma after the person you're talking to, not a period. "user" is not a sentence by itself.)

Yeah I know. I can't type well on my phone.

It's not actually Homing though, it's float. LLL in the air makes your character float higher with each hit, which is helpful especially for combos that need to jump cancel after a j.2H. It's not common but there are combos where it's better to LM instead of LL because of this.

Sadly in many ways auto combo is heavily integrated in the game, sadly, even in high level play.

The now-standard Cell corner S loop, for example, takes advantage of the fact that auto combo has a "suction" effect which makes sure that mashing auto combo is easy and guaranteed to land.

>Gohan dashes into me then does a punch that breaks my block
What is that

>so many fighting mechanics removed from the game

He did not specify only movement options ya dingus

No, its homing like he said, the autocombo corrects itself no matter where you are in terms of height. If you catch the opponent in the air with a jab that has a downward hitbox like A.Gohan and said opponent is below you, the rest of the autocombo will still home on him.

One thing that irkes me a but is that DBZ fighter surfers from all the same things people shit on SFV for.

>Evrione plays the same.
>Few defensive options
>Zoning is almost non existent
>Combos to easy.

But its ok because its DBZ and evrione loves DBZ

>The now-standard Cell corner S loop

Half the cast plays differently and its basically what makes them top tier like Android 16. And if you want zoning characters then play Beerus or Piccolo.

ah, my bad. either way i know there was a combo i was working on with trunks where LLS>214L>LMH was less reliable than LMS>214L>LMH.

well to be fair it's a tag fighter so expectations are a little different.

There are several examples to counter your argument. For example you can’t do LL jc LL on Frieza after 2H pursuit if you want dual tail hits on both. You gotta do LM on the first one at least. Otherwise you will float too high.

>But its ok because its DBZ and evrione loves DBZ
No, its okay because "lol its so fast and flashy woah I feel bad ass my combo was 90 hits even though I just pressed 2M M L jump L L jump L L 2H"

That's because the autocombo only corrects itself for the full autocombo sequence, not a half autocombo into another button, the correction doesn't take any other buttons thrown in there into account. It assumes you're gonna finish the whole sequence and puts you in the correct height for the rest of the autocombo hits to land, nothing else.

And thats logical if you think about it. If they implemented full height correction on half finished autocombo into other stuff the game would be somewhat broken considering some ki attacks and other buttons have weird/unconventional hitboxes.

It still is very versatile and makes certain combos possible due to the height correction.

Shut the fuck up capcbro. It's our time now.

Dragonball fighterz is tfucking auto combo superdash spammy bullshit what a fucking waste the presentation is top notch but just a few terrible gameplay decisions drag it down into the fucking mud

>decide to accept a challenge from someone 2 colors higher than me
>16, Vegeta, Goku Black
>get absolutely bodied

I don't know what I expected.

Vanish

DBFZ has more combo variety than SFV. There are lots of easy bnbs but in SFV, almost always, the easy bnb is also the optimal huge damage/corner carry combo.

>tfw there is literally never even a second where someone isn't either being hit or in a blockstring

SUPER DASH AND VANISH KILLED THE NEUTRAL