PS4 had a very strong 2017: Horizon Zero Dawn and early 2018 with MH:W (70%+ or sales were for the PS4)
Switch had a strong year with Zelda and Mario Odyssey
Xbox One had a strong year with rent 360 upscalled games
The japan industry is finally dominating the western market again. Now it's just a matter of time before CoD and Battlefield go full pay-to-win and microtransactions and we'll enjoy the most beautiful western crash ever. The western industry is becoming korean tier: only online microtransactions trash. They will slowly lose market to the chinese. Despite all the mess we are living in a great timeline
>b-but horizon is a western ip it doesn't matter. The hardware and software Sony business is japanese. Now they kicked out Kaz Hirai and , Andrew House and replaced with japanese people who don't even speak english
Thomas Jones
>it doesn't matter. The hardware and software Sony business is japanese
Then nothing has changed in the 28 years ive been alive then, thats how its always been, Jap products dominated EVERY gen since NES.
Joshua Gutierrez
>>b-but horizon is a western ip And it fucking shows.
Adam Gomez
>>Despite all the mess we are living in a great timeline
Historically speaking, western developers have been responsible for most of the innovation in gaming and the creation of most genres.
Jeremiah Flores
>yfw western devs beg people to buy their games saying they have children to feed
Kevin Sanders
>implying any of that is bad
Who gives a fuck. PS has always dominated, unironically. The only ten where they slid was PS3/XB1.
Christopher Collins
The previous gen Microsoft and Bethesda won "big league "
Ryan Gomez
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Christopher Ramirez
No they didn’t. They lost to a gamecube in a new case with a waggle controller.
Jaxson Cooper
>Historically speaking, western developers have been responsible for most of the innovation in gaming and the creation of most genres. I wish I was living in this fantasy world But it could be bait so here is your precious (You)
Aaron Ward
Japanese devs WISH there games was this relevant
Kayden Foster
Bethesda and Microsoft made more money during that period (2006 to 2012) than Nintendo
Julian Miller
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Easton Cox
Proof? Also Microsoft do not just exclusivley make games.
Jaxson Russell
Your point?
Joseph Gonzalez
lolno
Colton Johnson
>Bragging about sales for bundled games is okay as long as its a Sony game!
Sebastian Stewart
The Horizon console bundle was released when the game had almost 5 million units sold
Luke Johnson
Not that I disagree with the base argument, but most of those are just misrepresentations.
Chase Perry
Every major game has bundles. If the bundle's price was the same as normal you'd have a point but it costs $50 more.
Lucas Clark
shipped*
Jeremiah Stewart
why do you waste your time replying to bait?
Thomas Moore
>trying to make it seem irrelevant is okay until you point out EVERY Nintento console did just the same!
Asher Nguyen
ok 4.3 million units sold and 5 million shipped
Jayden Howard
Please stop shilling your shit SJW trash
Blake Reyes
No, the point is that sales for the game are inflated because it comes in a bundle.
Same shit went for games like MKWii and Uncharted 4.
Christopher King
But they had to pay extra for the fucking bundle you retard. The Umcharted 4 bundle was the same price as a normal console.
Jacob Lopez
>literally delet this
Carter Johnson
That's better
Jaxson Myers
MH:W sales are not inflated by hardware bundles It sold 2 million in japan while PS4 hardware sales were less than 400k for the first two weeks
Aiden Wright
>Its only not okay when Nintendo does it Yeah, that's what I said.
Mario Kart Wii's 35m sold didn't count because it was bundled, but now games like Uncharted 4 and Horizon suddenly do?
Wyatt Johnson
I didn't say anything about Monster Hunter
Noah Myers
because you are obsessed with Horizon Zero Dawn success
Ryan Jackson
>SMW can never be good because there was a bundle >SM64 can never be good because there was a bundle >Sonic The Hedgehog can never be good because there was a bundle >RE4 can never be good because there was a bundle
People are using the bundle to diminish it so don’t now say thats not what you meant.
Kevin Campbell
>We sold our shiny new game at a huge discount mere months into its lifespan. Look how many copies it sold after a year and another huge discount and bundling it with the console!
Didn’t Sony do the exact same shit with the PS3?
Chase Jones
Well in that case user, nothing good counts ever because there have been a shit ton of bundles.
Evan Ward
Despite selling only 2 million units Bloodborne is the best game from the past 20 years And Bloodborne II is coming this E3. And better yet Microsoft and other western devs will make their same scam show with upscalled games and Just Dance 2019
Blake Ramirez
>RPGs? The west. To this day, virtually every feature of JRPGs can be traced back to Ultima and Wizardry, which laid the foundation for the entire JRPG genre.
>Open-world? The west, as early as 1981 with games like Ultima and Elite, and with 3D open world as early as the mid-90's with the Elder Scrolls.
>Complex, interactable 3D worlds with non-linear level design and full range of movement (i.e. jumping/swimming/flying/etc.)? The west. Ultima Underworld for example predates Mario 64 by half a decade.
>Any strategy game, whether RTS, 4x, grand strategy or hybrids like X-COM? The west. (And no, Japanese SRPG's are not strategy games, they're just a series of RPG battles.)
>Survival Horror? The west. Resident Evil blatantly ripped off virtually every design aspect of Alone in the Dark (while simplifying it).
>First-person games? The west.
>Graphic adventure games? The west.
>Simulation games such as space/flight sims? The west.
I could go on and on, but you get the point. And keep in mind that before the Xbox360 era, western developers were working with much smaller budgets than Japanese developers, because they were a niche compared to Japanese developers who dominated mainstream gaming and had much bigger budgets, yet despite that, they were far more innovative.
Samuel Martin
2017 was a pretty good year in general for video games.
Dominic Green
>virtually every feature of JRPGs can be traced back to Ultima and Wizardry That's false and a blatant lie. Falcom was making the traditional JRPGs before the meme FPS dungeon trsah > open world as early as the mid-90's with the Elder Scrolls. Not answering to this >Any strategy game romance of the three kingdoms were made before you were born you shit head >Ultima Underworld Complex, interactable 3D worlds with non-linear level design Dishonest >Simulation games such as space/flight sims IT was japan in 1990
You are a lying jewish scum
John Morgan
I bet there will be a remastered version of this on the PS5.
Jack Morales
>>That's false and a blatant lie. Falcom was making the traditional JRPGs before the meme FPS dungeon trsah
Falcom's early games can hardly be called JRPGS, being devoid of any actual RPG elements. And even those came out years after the early WRPGs. So no, you're wrong.
>>Not answering to this Because you're a moron who doesn't know what he's talking about?
>>romance of the three kingdoms Congrats, you were able to name one notable Japanese strategy franchise compared to thousands from the west.
>>Dishonest Dishonest in what way?
>>IT was japan in 1990 What the hell does this sentence even mean?
I also forget to mention the following:
>Online multiplayer? The west.
>Modding? The west.
And all these innovations are in spite of the 1983 crash crippling the American video game industry.
Kayden King
>Falcom's early games can hardly be called JRPGS, being devoid of any actual RPG elements. And even those came out years after the early WRPGs. So no, you're wrong.
Are you high nigga?
Michael Hill
>Falcom's early games can hardly be called JRPGS and at the same time you call any Apple II trash a flight sim or western RPG That's why I called you a jewish liar. You are a subversive liar
Brayden Evans
Are you retarded? Falcom's early games did not have RPG elements. And Falcom themselves have admitted the influence of western RPG;s
>According to creator Yoshio Kiya in 1987, when he developed Dragon Slayer, "Wizardry and Ultima were the only two kinds of RPGs,"
RPGs originated in the west. Deal with it.
Camden Rivera
I also forgot stealth games.
Both Castle Wolfenstein (1981) and Thief: The Dark Project (1998) were by far the most complex and innovative stealth games of their time and of their perspective (2D and 3D, respectively).
In addition, the western stealth genre is infinitely more varied than the Japanese. You have disguise-based stealth (Hitman), first-person stealth (Thief, Dishonoered), third-person stealth (Splinter Cell), real-time strategy stealth (Commandos, Shadow Tactics, etc.), turn-based RPG stealth (Invisible Inc, Jagged Alliance 2, etc.), side-scroller stealth (Abe's Odyssey, Mark of the Ninja, etc.).
What does Japan have? Metal Gear Solid and Tenchu, both 3rd person. Whoop di doo.
Benjamin Lopez
People like you don't deserve the air you breath
Josiah Foster
>rent 360 upscalled games Rent you buy and own them as much as one can own a digital game.
Isaiah Moore
I hope that those enhanced games we have now get updated again when the new Xbox comes out in a few years. They did it with the 360-Xbox-X1X already so I can see it happening.
Gavin Gonzalez
>that spike in 2006 for Xbox Ah yes, the year the RRoD went wild like fire.
Cameron Gonzalez
but Sup Forums told me the game was SJW shit and SJW games fail
Jose Ross
>and SJW games fail Literally the exact opposite.
Nicholas Torres
Crazy that they still sold over 90 million 360's. I think it was the superb customer service that kept their customer retention.