Raise prices for literally no reason other than "we can"

>raise prices for literally no reason other than "we can"
>online serve is trash, has always been trash, with absolutely no effort made to make it anything but trash
>constantly down
>constantly being hacked or ddosd because lol what is cloudflare?
>can't even make a fucking mobile app that functions with less than 15 seconds of lag, when it does function at all
>give out trash games for >free 90% of the time
>don't even let you play your >free games if your service lapses for even a day
>despite this bury the date of expiration in 700 impossible to find menus so unless you remember the exact date you signed up for ps+ good luck finding out when you need to give sony more money before they jack your shit
>stop giving the >free games for ps3
>stop giving >free games for vita
>don't even bother to give extra games for ps4 to make up for it
>charging people more money for 1/3 of the content on a shitty, barely working, service that 100% will result in you being a victim of identity theft
>basically be as big of a kike as you possibly can
Seriously what the fuck is their problem?

I can't be the only one who is just done with their shit.

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Hey look on the bright side, you get Bloodborne this month.

Oh wait, what's that? You already bought that years ago? Well fuck you, maybe you should have given Sony more money so they could afford to provide the service you originally were promised. This is your fault.

NA NA NA NA HEY HEY HEY HEY GOODBYY-YYE

If only it were that simple, but fucking cowadooty console faggots will keep giving them money every month just so they play shit with the other 12 year olds.

The 6 games every month was the only thing that made ps+ semi worth it.

Shut up, OP. They raised the price so we can get these great games like Spelunker HD and Mighty No. 9.

I really, really hope they drop PS Now for proper BC on their next console. I also hope they include digital refunds but knowing Sony, I doubt any of what I mentioned will happen.

if it's so bad, stop paying
it's that simple.
You stop paying, they realize they have to make more incentive for people to pay. If the games were the reason you were paying, you're free to stop, if you want multiplayer, it becomes the determination if you want it bad enough to pay for it despite the change to services.

It's really a simple business practice, that shit isn't worth continuing to pursue, they've given away like 80% of the vita library already.

In a way I blame Microsoft for a lot of this shit. If they hadn't shot themselves in the dick right off the bat this gen Sony would never be able to get away with this kind of jewry.

ps now is getting better, they stopped trying to support every device under the sun and moved to JUST ps4 and pc, and the input delay is so minor I don't even have issues playing games anymore where it used to be like 150ms, it's now ~100 most of the time. proper BC would be nice but honestly I know it's probably a function almost no one uses, no one on xbox uses it that's for fucking sure.

>that shit isn't worth continuing to pursue, they've given away like 80% of the vita library already.
Then they should be giving more ps4 games instead. Every six months Sony has been objectively making the already borderline acceptable service worse and worse.

They raised the prices again?

Still better than what Nintendo have

They've basically been doing that the last 6 months with no single vita title not being cross-buy with ps4. I can't imagine they'll just be giving out 2 ps4 games and that's it, despite the rumors saying that'll be the case. If they do, I'll just stop paying though. Only reason I pay now is because of the indies I get, usually 4 or 5 a month on my ps4.

Remember that e3 presentation where Sony just constantly tried to shit over everything microsoft did and then there was a tiny sentence in their powerpoint that said they are now charging for online and the speaker never mentioned it?

Bought 5 12-month cards on boxing day for $30 (leafbux) last year. Feels good.

I guess MS needs to take the lead next gen in order for Sony to sort themselves out.
Regardless of how many people are playing older games, you have to admit that it's a great feature and even more so when those games get enhanced for the stronger system. For Sony to charge for that service on top of charging for PSN, it comes off as greedy.

>I can't imagine they'll just be giving out 2 ps4 games and that's it
Well that's what Sony's saying.

Exactly this. I don't need to get on a phone to talk to people playing a game.

>stop giving the >free games for ps3
>stop giving >free games for vita
>don't even bother to give extra games for ps4 to make up for it
Are you from the future?

>OP Lists a bunch of objective, factual reasons why PS+ is a bigger scam than Scientology
>make a post proclaiming you feel good for feeding the proverbial monster and ensuring that not only will Sony continue to scam players, but that free online will never be a thing for consoles again.

I'm assuming the cancer formed a symbiotic bond to you and that you are now completely one with it and able to control it at will now?

If you pay for online, you deserve to be gassed. there is no arguing this.

Microsoft raised their prices first and Sony saw that their customers didn't care and actually defended it, so they did the same. Microsoft really needs to stop "innovating" because their dumbass customers accept it first which then trickles down to the rest of the industry.

And now you get less content for that money. Lucky you I guess.

I'm the opposite; if they hadn't shot themselves in the dick I'd be going into the next gen horribly concerned that sony was going to adopt always-online and no used games policies themselves.

It can ALWAYS be worse than it is right now, make no mistake.

xbox live costs the same even though it has way less "free" games, and Nintendo's multiplayer system is a fucking joke where you need a smartphone app and a million adapter wires just to make a party and talk to your friends

>no one on xbox uses it that's for fucking sure.
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keep telling yourself that

WHY haven't they allowed backwards compatibility
Id buy PS2 games on the store if it was possible. like nintendo virtual console

Blame them for 100% of this shit since they are the ones that showed it works

>2 billion bullets fired
>3 billion miles driven
>4 billion dashboard ads viewed

you'll believe anything

I can't see that anywhere, just that they're removing ps3 and vita games. which is shit, but they're far from lacking in shit indie titles to throw out. Ones that dip to a dollar every week.

I don't disagree, bc is great, I just think from a business perspective it's unfeasible for them to include now in the ps+ rollup (They've been hinting at a price decrease for active ps+ users in the newsletters for ps now users, but who knows if that'll come out)

and on a technical level, THE CELL is retarded and literally impossible to introduce without implementing the actual hardware, which would drive prices up about 200 bucks. That's why psnow was made, and gaikai was bought, anyway, to provide ps3 services on ps4 through now. They gambled on streaming being the big thing and failed, they also tried to not-so-subtly follow ms' "the cloud" shit, and we all know how that turned out with literally the only game they ever made to actually use it still not being out and getting delayed everytime it gets close.

Cool, are they releasing numbers yet, or do we still only have that report from 2016 where 98% of all time spent in bc was black ops 2. Again, I like bc, I just never hear of anyone ever using it, or seeing them use it. It's pretty much untouched, so is ps now. both services were huge fucking wastes of time and resources.

>Id buy PS2 games on the store if it was possible
But goyim, you can. For the low low price of $19.99 each!

Nice find. I expect to see even more older games get upgrades this year. I still need to go out and scoop up some OG games because I'm sure most of their catalog will get the bc treatment.

>raise prices for literally no reason other than "we can"

its called inflation

Not the ones I want.

>xbox live costs the same even though it has way less "free" games,
Yeah but they don't steal the >free games from you if you don't want to give them your shekels anymore. Also as a service Microsoft's network actually functions, Sony's is an embarrassment and has been since its inception.

They literally couldn't even develop a mobile app that worked, think about that shit for a second.

Does Sony choose what games they put on PS Now or is it like the Xbox where people can vote on what they want? And I thought the service was only $15 a month?

>it's not as bad as the other service, you're getting a great deal :))))

This whataboutism is exactly how paid online started. And every single console is guilty of it. Even Nintendo's network. When you start saying "that's not alot for a yearly payment, get a job poorfag" you're marketing for the corporations and excusing their blatant idiotic practices.

>there's 30% inflation

>F-f-fake!

crazy that sonygros defend the playstation store, it lags way too damn much that I always have to use the site instead

I blame Blizzard and World of Warcraft for really popularizing these kind of subs.
I mean how fucking Jewish can you get, charging $50 for WoW itself and then +$15 per month on top of that, all in 2005 dollars, all for ONE FUCKING GAME! And they got so much extra money from stupid kids who just forgot to cancel their subs for months on end

Still better than what Nintendoesn't have.

The mobile apps worked fine, they've only turned to shit now that they split every little fucking feature into it's own 800mb app.
>old ps app is 40mb and has messaging and communities and activity updates and shopping
>new ps app is 350mb and has activity updates
>messages app is 230 mb
>communities app is almost a gig
I still don't understand.

ps now is all done via licensing, so they get all the niche shit and not just huge titles, but you get little input on what's put in. They sometimes have a poll you can vote in.

That's nothing compared to the mobile app. Go download it and prepare to be blown away.

>despite this bury the date of expiration in 700 impossible to find menus so unless you remember the exact date you signed up for ps+ good luck finding out when you need to give sony more money before they jack your shit
You can check the expiration date by going to the information tab for any downloaded game, they will also email you when you near the end of your subscription.

>stop giving the >free games for ps3
>stop giving >free games for vita
They're still providing free games for both platforms, these games are often cross compatible with PS4 as well.

what's wrong with it?

>They're still providing free games for both platforms,
Evidently you didn't hear the news: they're stopping that.

I don't want to spoil it for you. Go download it.

you are living in the last generation. XBL's current "free-games" model (Games with Gold) for Xbox One works exactly the same as PS4's "free-games" model

No i have it, what's wrong with it, i only use it for messaging for online game sessions and it seems to do its job.

not him buy why the fuck would anyone install something to their phone just to see how shitty it was

You can still play the 360 games through BC on your Xbone if you stop paying for gold. That's better than being left with absolutely nothing if you stop paying for PS+

>He actually pays money to use his own internet connection to play online video games

It's incredible in its lag. Go try to use the store.
Because it's like looking at a car crash: it's fascinating to see something so completely fucked.

>ms needs to take the lead for sony to sort themselves out

Didn't MS all but start this kike niggerfaggotry with XBL Gold? And let's not forget the shit they were trying at the Xbone's launch that they only got their shit pushed in for because Sony wasn't as convinced they could get away with the same themselves (yet) and capitalized on a bit of corp-to-corp trolling that normies ate up while willfully ignorant of how it highlighted the absolute shitshow the industry has become with no rock bottom in sight to end the race to be the most bottom-feeding scumsucker of them all.

I don't even think that's right. It says you have to be on an actual xbox 360 to be allowed to keep playing them, not using Xbox One in BC mode

Oh just tried, it seems to load fine but it's just using an external web browser to load the store since i have firefox on default to load desktop versions of pages and that's what appeared.

2 years without ps+

only thing it was usefull is for bloodborne

MS started it all when they started Xbox Live as a subscription service in 2002. Xbox Gold games service or whatever wasn't rolled out til 2013

>>raise prices for literally no reason other than "we can"
It's okay when Nintendo does it!

This thing is I actually liked it. I like getting 6 random games a month, quite a few of them turned out to be great games I never would have tried otherwise. Now they're taking 2/3 of that away.

No, it's correct. With the Xbone "free" games, you are still given the option to purchase them on the store page after you got it with gold, with the "free" 360 games, they tie the license to your account. The option to purchase the game is gone, even if you lose gold. The game is yours. If they took your 360 games away, it would mean the only way to keep playing a game would be to stay subbed forever.

>it would mean the only way to keep playing a game would be to stay subbed forever.
Like sony basically

I meant that because the game license is tied to your account, it's yours, and thus, the option to purchase the game is taken away. Pretty sure ps+ lets you still actually buy a game you got for free from ps+. You don't have that option once you get a free 360 game.

Maybe you can on the website or on ps3 (I'd need to check) but on PS4 it says "purchased" below it and doesn't let you buy it. The gall of them to call something "purchased" and then think they can take it away from you is another matter.

What factual, objective reasons?
It's just "lmao it's shit" repeated several times. I can't remember the last time PSN was down, even when there were threads on Sup Forums there were plenty of people who got online. Sounds more like someone from 2011 complained. When was the last time PSN was hacked?

>free games
They literally started the whole "get games with your paid online :^)" shit, not defending paid online but at least it made MS do that too.
The whole "you can't play when your service runs out" thing is stupid too. You get the games with your PS+ so of course you won't get to play them without it, it's not even a secret/scam.
>>despite this bury the date of expiration in 700 impossible to find menus so unless you remember the exact date you signed up for ps+ good luck finding out when you need to give sony more money before they jack your shit
Seriously, you can just look it up in your account. It's not hidden or anything like that.
Also you don't have to buy it on the exact same date it runs out, if you buy another subscription, it only activates once your old one runs out. PS+ runs out on the 15th, you buy another month on the 10th. Your PS+ now runs out on the 15th next month

Are you using a PS3 by chance? Old PSN was neat then they used the PS3 to betatest the new one and it runs like complete ass.
No perfomance issues on PS4 though

>mfw everyone clapped when they announced PS+ would be mandatory for online play
Sonyfags are the worst

I remember I couldn't get online either in late december or early january one time for like 12 hours because of some big DDOS attack against PSN

I think it's the way the store works. You have to "accept" the games on PS+ in order to get them.
I got a PS4 over a year ago and forgot you get games on PS3 too so I'm slightly annoyed

I live in europe so maybe it was regional?

Aren't audiences like that paid?

I want to pet that octopus

>I got a PS4 over a year ago and forgot you get games on PS3 too so I'm slightly annoyed
How did you forget that? Presumably you already had a PS3 before getting a PS4.

>everyone loves to claim "priices went up"
>still just $60/yr
>and always goes on sale around the holidays so you could buy a year for $30-40

>I can't remember the last time PSN was down,
I can, a week and a half ago.

>caring about online
Only game I've played online is monster hunter world, and i used my free trial for it.

I remember one post that had spongbob as the pic. He said something like
>IT'S 60 DOLLARS, THAT'S NOTHING GET A JOB. SHIT.
I could imagine him bowing down like that guy from e3

Nintendo Online did paid online right!

I don't care about online, I liked getting the six games a month and access to the lower sale prices.

they don't owe you anything, you are paying to use online services and everything else is them being generous to you entitled fuck

60 or 30 $ for what?

free fucking games that i own? crap online? pushed ads up my ass erry time i open up ps store from console?

But you need online for competitive games like fighting games

paying for the right to pay less

MHW officially made me care about online. Can't imagine not being able to hunt with my bros.

It's awful.

>BUT NINTENDO!

games? indy shit that was on sale for about a year or so and released 2 years ago?

retarded cunt.

almost all of those aren't sony though

stop paying them, then. I know I did.

>pushed ads up my ass erry time i open up ps store from console?
You allow them too.
If I'm not mistaken you get asked when you setup your account/console for the first time and even then you can still just change the settings.

I never bothered with PS+ games except when they started the service for just games on PS3 and gave it a try but even then it was some years ago

thx user.

The DKTF remaster costs $10 more than the original release and the only thing it adds is an easy mode for babies.

>It's okay when they do it!

It's because of the cartridge format, they cost significantly more than 3DS carts to manufacturer. That's why 3rd party support will suffer

I never get ads that aren't stuff like newly released games or announced games that you can preorder now, people also complain about this on the xbox but it also never happened to me, must be an american thing im guessing.

Which one of the sony remasters costs $10 more than the original?

Which doesn't matter because thousands of other people will do it in your place

>its ok when mine does but when others do it
Nevermind the fact that all of those are 40$ and bellow.

I don't know why I bother writing out arguments when the only responses I get are shitposts like this

this is not about ads. ffs

ps+ adds nothing to the system exept locked online. the crappy one. ms and xbone done it right and i still dont pay them for this fucking rip-off

You're wrong. That was actually a huge issue on ps3, because there are tons of games that went on sale for really fucking low prices (catherine being on sale for $4.99 once and then never again comes to mind) that you could never buy because of stuff like ps+, or even worse, the ps+ timed trials, which forever set the price to it's regular one totally ignoring sales.

Fuck off, pajeet

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Yes, exactly. I am paying to use a service, a service they just unilaterally decided to change for the worse without consulting those who are actually paying for it.
>hey now that we just raised your price by 30% would you mind if we remove 2/3 of the content?
Fo fuck yourself retard