So he was the good guy right?

So he was the good guy right?

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no

ITS AN ABOMINATION

A "person" whose memories and entire personality can be wiped and replaced is not a person.

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I think he's a good guy, but I also hate self driving cars and think AI is inherently evil.

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They deliberately tried making them look like Nazis right?

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Unironically yes. Any sane person would pick the BoS if they didn’t shoehorn the Director to be your son.
>mfw my friend it made him think of a nazi invasion when the airship flies into the map for the first time

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Sane people pick the Minutemen, not the glorified raiders with their fancy toys

>BoS has uniformed lolis
Of course they're the good guys.

>he says about the faction that's openly disappointed if you don't threaten settlements to send them food

I mean, you hafta kill him to wear his coat or max pickpocket to get it without mods.

>Technologically advaned faction of knights spread across the nation to preserve the ways of the old world
Or
>revolutionary war larpers

What the fuck is up with the coat's textures

You didn't blow the director away first opportunity?

Minutemen are on tbe verge of being wiped out before save them.

anyone who's watched Hellsing would say the same thing.

No, it was pretty blatant that synths were sentient, committing genocide out of paranoia is retarded. The Railroad are the good guys, it's a shame that the group itself is so insufferable.

Huh, I thought it was just the right balance of "cavalry here to save the day" and ominous "maybe they're actually just invading" and the music hit that perfectly too.

>medieval knight LARPers who want to hoard tech and 'offer' protection for the common man
or
>group reclaiming the commonwealth and providing security for the people
hurrrr

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>to preserve the ways of the old world
>a bunch of packrats that just hoard technology without being useful to anyone
i like how you called them knights as if that's supposed to elevate them.

The faction debate in every New Vegas thread is bad enough, but it's even more retarded in this nonsensical game

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>eradicating ghouls and super mutants
>no useful to anyone

>fallout 4

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Probably not considering he vaporizes innocents when you storm the institute. Doesn't matter if you give them a chance to escape I fucking see you and your goons mowing down unarmed scientists in droves. Institute + Minutemen is probably the best end out there really.

Best companion go

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He deserved to be in a better game
Funny having this guy aboard the Prydwen while Maxson DEUS VULTed about how evil synths are

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>institute
>innocent

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With Fallout 4 the quality differences between some textures always amaze me.
Some look ok and others look like total dogshit

Institute needs to be purged

>implying anyone in the institute is innocent

>"future of humanity" with best technology
>objectively evil, game doesn't appear aware of this fact

>morally good guys, noble goal
>obnoxious, elitist, no real vision outside of freeing synths and inevitably becomes pointless

>organised, equipped, and driven like a true regional power
>also objectively evil, game slightly more aware of it

>grassroots organisation with only slight interest in central conflict, still the best chance for proper commonwealth governance
>unintentionally the most obnoxious faction because bethesda didn't know how to make them likeable
FO4 is a travesty

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nah, he was just a dude with a shitty haircut

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>need labour to water plants and collect scrap
>develop sophisticated self-conscious androids instead of using Mr Handys for slavery metaphor plot

By Comparison to the others? Kinda.
But, I still didn't like him that much.
I prefer my BoS as pseudoreligios Tech-Templars more then the whole "Generic Military Faction" they went with this time.
Bethesda are fucking hacks.

>I prefer my BoS as pseudoreligios Tech-Templars more then the whole "Generic Military Faction" they went with this time.
So much this

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>hitler youth haircut
>scraggly pube-face
What a sap

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Guess humans aren't people then.

>not offering patronage to your overlord be it ncr, legion, or brotherhood
SAD!

>Implying the minutemen are more obnoxious then the railroad.
>implying the game doesn't go out of it's way to make you think the brotherhood is evil

I kinda like the idea that as time goes on the BoS lose all trappings of being anything other than power players.

What makes you think the brotherhood are the good guys?

Todd hes never left me after all these games even now i think he follows me

Maybe? I don't know, his story just sort of ended. Who cares who he was really

How does anyone play through the story of this game without falling asleep? I seriously couldn't play for more than 15 minutes without getting bored out of my mind.

>want to wipe out ghouls and super mutants
>recognise the institute and synths for what they are
>actually organized and largely competent
>want to rebuild the old world rather then just adapt to the new one

the institute was never given a plausible reason for doing evil things on the surface, and thus the other factions actions (which are in response to the institute) also make no sense

the power and wealth and organization of the railroad is revealed at the battle of bunker hill, they're better equipped than everyone one, that also makes no sense

the writing is absolutely terrible just like fallout 3, and there are no good guys, not even the minutemen

Railroad is the most annoying though, so as long as you don't pick them, you're ok.

>wiping out non-feral ghouls
I'll give you super mutants though
>recognise the institute and synths for what they are
Most of the institute and synths don't recognise what they are
>actually organized and largely competent
Largely true, although dropping random recon teams into the wasteland doesn't amount to much
>want to rebuild the old world
Living in the past is a terrible idea, especially if it was over 200 years ago and ended in a nuclear holocaust

There's no concrete evidence to show the BoS are the 'good guys', just another faction with their own agenda and gimmick

The Sole Survivor™ is the good guy

>be forced into a heroic role more or less the whole game
>Nuka World
>oh yeah you're in charge of these three raider gangs now, have fun suddenly becoming evil

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>Institute spends valuable time and resources creating synths for the purpose of subterfuge, thus ruining their reputation with everyone else in the Commonwealth, for absolutely no reason

W H Y

To be fair you can just kill literally all of them, it's a valid "end" to the questline. Best to do it after the fact, though.

That is just multilayered character development, too complex and sophisticated for you to understand, user *snickers*

There is nothing wrong with being a Synth.

dude, keep playing, once you get the power armour and the mini gun its fucking epic, bro

There's nothing right about it either

I want to ____ Nick!

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This but unironically

I'm more sad at the fact that you don't get to make your own synth waifu once you become Director. That would've been worth it.

It sucks that the Railroad npcs are such annoying shits because I really liked the railroad on paper at least. Fighting for synth freedom, all the fun sneaky missions, Deacon is a pretty cool guy, they give ballistic weave and some cool shit.
But when Desdemona tells you to stop helping the Minutemen because she wants you to fully focus only on them I realized fuck these people.

But you get both of those after 10 minutes :(

Take a look at their equipment; Sorry user, but they're fucked. Without the players' involvement, they're dead and forgotten in Concord. Even if the Brotherhood looses in Boston, they have influence throughout the States, and possibly in Ronto Canada.

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>become Director of the Institute
>can't tell everyone to stop replacing people with Synths and creeping everyone out

>Take a look at their equipment
They brought down the Prydwen with 18th century artillery. Your point?

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Only due to the players involvement/constant babysitting. Remove the super-human, time-stopping, recycle-maniac PC from the game, and you can easily see which factions would survive.

desu

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He's the best option from a shit situation and he's absolutely right about synths
Synths are the single biggest threat to society besides the bomb. The perfect sleeper agents, who can be deactivated with a phrase and literally reprogrammed. You might have known and loved a synth for years, just for its programming to kick in and force it to kill you.

Minutemen have proven to be utterly useless without the player, and will be again when you're gone
The only halfway decent successor to you is Preston, who lacks the capability to effectively lead

>those textures

That's absolutely disgusting. How can you call yourself an "AAA" company and release this bullshit? Glad I never touched this shit.

AAA stands for AAASS

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>invades the Commonwealth
>BoS missions have you forcing settlers to give supply you food
>would have one of his most competent trusted officers executed just for being a synth unaware of the fact
"No". Felt good turning Liberty Prime against them, though, even if the Institute suck ass.

>forcing settlers to supply you food
That's optional, you can pay for them

>Institute is the big bad boogyman because they kidnapped a handful of people, raped them to death, then made synth imposters of them in order to ___________
>Not the fact that the Institute has kidnapped thousands of people over a century and turned them into a near-infinite super mutant army to attack the surface for no goddamn reason
>Also super mutant hounds too because why the fuck not

Yes, the player can, but if the all-wise PC wasn't around, they'd be taking it at gunpoint themselves.

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>this gets you banned from the Frontier discord server

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I want the Courier to show up and punch the whole area to death.

>fallout 4

who cares?

Fuck off back to /vg/ with your drug addict waifu.

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heh.

A synth is a robot. It has no "being". It's effectively a toaster with legs.

Then why do they feel and reason?

DUDE

SYNTH GORILLAS

LMAO

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He was the only group with logical motivations and an end goal, so yes.

I really hated how they forced me into gauntlet, so after killing their overboss I killed every raider in Nuka world

Where the FUCK did the Institute get FEV from?

Does FEV grow on fucking trees on the east coast or something?

Not to mention it took a long ass time for the Master to perfect the dipping process while the Institute whips up a supermutant army within 2 years of summoning FEV from the fucking aether.

Bethesda is still under the impression that FEV = Supermutant juice

No.
F4 BoS is retarded, all they got for them is looking cool.
Institute is the better choice.
it can only be the best choice since you become the head of the institute and have infinite manpower to do things right.
BoS is dumb as shit and even if you replace maxon you're only a chapter and have fucking synths in your brotherhood.

>he was the good guy

I thought it was pretty clear that they were the Legion of FO4.
The Institute is the only good faction, they know whats best and will bring back the world to its original state.

Maybe they got it from the Capital Wasteland?

Or fuck, maybe the corruption of pre-war America was so bad they could have bought the stuff and created more with Science! (Science! being an actual term in Fallout)

>Institute
>Hey guys I made synthetic people to mop or floors!
>But why? Just get a fucking robot to do it.
>lol, fuck that
Then they made synth gorilla's for some reason and started replacing people with synths for no reason.

I agree that the BoS aren't the good guys in F4 but I don't see how sending up random groups of hostile synths to fuck around in pre-war ruins is helpful either

They’re literally not knights, all they want to do is keep advanced technology out of wastelander hands so they can never advance beyond a certain point. They were want them to stay where they are so they can’t destroy the world again. Only they have the right to knowledge and they will anyone who gets in their way, including their own.

>Live in a world full of slavery, rape, murder and monsters
>DUDE lets help the robots who are bored sweeping floors in utopia LMAO
>By integrating them into a word full of slavers, rapists, murderers and monsters
>Group comes along that doesn't like robots
>Murder them all, more people than robots in the entirety of the institute
>Including all the children stationed on board
Railroad, not even once.

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Might start a fresh FO4 save. Who should I side with? Brotherhood, Railroad, or Institute?

Can't really say I particularly like any faction. They are all flawed in some way so decide for me since I can't.

Yeah, especially when they shoot on site anyone they come across, including you till you go to the institute.
Do they ever try to explain why the kid still let his synths on the surface try and kill you?

>Then they made synth gorilla's for some reason and started replacing people with synths for no reason.
They do because the director is retarded and delusional.
Once the player takes over the institude would be much more sound and logical.

Institute with proper management could take over America.

I mean, kudos for not having a completely black and white game...

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>Institute is the better choice.
It's like none of you fuckers saw what scientists in pre-war America were doing. They are worse than Japs/Nazis during WW2 in terms of human experiments

the "DUDE WE HAVE THE TECHNOLOGY THIS MEANS WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS" brainlets are really tiring

Kill them all on site if you don't care for rewards or bonuses