>Bioware writing then >Legitimately thought-provoking, actually made me question my decisions, almost always ended up as a middle of the road with a very slight push to either "good" or "bad" by the end of a game
>Bioware now >Hello Shepard I am trans and gay and also god bless those space muslims and everything they do for us praise allah >bitch I asked you about the fucking reapers
>reconnect witih what made past bioware games great i think the ship has sailed on making d&d games >give employees a good reason to stay besides a paycheck no, do that shit on your own time
Dylan Ramirez
Back then you were a stupid child. The writing had always been shit.
Lincoln Smith
>Baldur's Gate had shitty writing THIS NIGGER
Samuel James
Only the first BG has a good story.
Robert Davis
I think by that he meant dont force employees to make sjw shit and let them write good stories.
Leo Myers
But no one is forced to do anything, look at the Weekes' couple respective twitter accounts foran example
Landon Bell
>>Bioware writing then >>Legitimately thought-provoking, actually made me question my decisions, almost always ended up as a middle of the road with a very slight push to either "good" or "bad" by the end of a game lmao you're such a brainlet. read a good book retard bioware writing is cringe tier.
Zachary Turner
dont forget the lead game designer an heroed.
Kayden Bell
>untrustworthy, unaccountable, obsessed with politics wew
Is EA running out of studios to ruin? All of them have been rebranded as DICE [Location], Bioware [Location] or shut down. They need to start buying studios again before the hosts run out of blood.
Dylan Gomez
>pro >inclusive work place that promotes diversity I'd argue this is one of the many reasons BioWare has worsened over the years.
Luis Brooks
If Anthem is a flaming shit pile like Andromeda or has annoying bullshit like destiny or division (it will) the game will be DoA.
I noticed that Battlefront 2 is already on sale for like 25 bucks which tells me its not selling well. If Anthem is a jewish lootfest I bet Bioware will get what happened to Respawn.
Charles Long
Clickb8s? On my Sup Forums? Fuck off.
Juan Bell
Oh boy here we go
Aaron Stewart
>diversity is one of the pros >con about politics must be sjw shit
wat
Matthew Brown
Bioware always had a blatant good and a blatant evil path, the only difference was they always wrote good party members that you cared about, or at least could attach to 2 or 3. There was no pandering they just wanted to tell a neat story with good and evil decisions.
Isaiah Rodriguez
The liquid diarrhea currently coming out of my asshole is a better game than Anthem will be.
Isaac Scott
>I bet Bioware will get what happened to Respawn You mean Visceral right? EA only just acquired Respawn
I played it 2 years ago and can't even remember anything about the story expect that the bad guy was hoarding iron to start a civil war or an invasion maybe? My fault though for not paying attention.
Julian Smith
ye. i just dont respond to those kind of people.
Hudson Martinez
I live in Edmonton, and I've seen that nu-male in the back out and about before.
Owen Anderson
bioware has been dead for a long time
Angel Moore
>Legitimately thought-provoking, actually made me question my decisions, almost always ended up as a middle of the road with a very slight push to either "good" or "bad" by the end of a game
Just because nu-Bioware writing is the quality ofa middle school girl's tumblr blog doesn't make old bioware's mediocre writing Dostoevsky.
They expected 1.7m sales for BFII, and instead they got 1.3m. It also sold less than BFI in the same amount of time. As well as being a PR nightmare, it's a commercial failure. They're going to have to turn the lootboxes back on soon just to make their money back.
Anthem got delayed to 2019 specifically because of the lootbox controversy in my opinion. I've heard reports that the devs are very anxious about that aspect of the game, and the massive delay implies that Anthem was chock full of the exact same lootbox shit that's in BFII. EA didn't use BFII as an experiment, it's a massive property, they were confident that everything would work out fine. If they thought that way about BFII then there's no reason not to assume that they thought the same about Anthem. It's been delayed because they're panicking and scrambling to overhaul a progression system that was designed entirely around lootboxes.
Mason Rogers
Retarded.
Tyler King
There are no such things as "natural" or "forced" diversity. It's all just diversity.
Kayden Foster
>pros: inclusive workspace that values and promotes diversity >cons: obsessed with politics
Perhaps it is because I am eastern Yuro that grew up under the boot of social justice and equality crowd, so I am more sensitive to this stuff, but is it even possible to lack the introspect to such degree. i would bet my ass that 90% of people that work for Bioware has the ''Personal is political'' slogan plastered all over their shit, and yet they write this.....
you can be for workplace diversity and still disregard stiffling creative freedom through the forced inclusion of political stances
Robert Watson
This, "forced diversity" is just favoring one or multiple groups over the other. Good old discrimination.
Hudson Gutierrez
wrong captain planet is forced diversity Sup Forums shitposters are diversity
Nolan Hill
>Yuro that grew up under the boot of social justice and equality crowd >implying authortarian communist regiemes were ever equality based >implying SJWs are actually as bad communists
kys
Matthew Barnes
I think it's grossly misleading that EA still calls the current day "Bioware" Bioware when it's basically a whole new studio. They're tarnishing the name of a once beloved studio the best they can.
Anthony Allen
Its a zombie studio now, all of the old writers/staff are gone and its basically intern-level hacks making slave wages for EA on rolling contracts. Muzyka and Zeschuk are long-gone, the latter of whom is literally getting drunk for a living now.
Brody Nelson
Did he mistake his Adiy pills for testosterone supplements, saw what he worked on in the past with clear vision and killed himself out of shame?
Alexander Lee
its clearly the reason all their studios are collapsing. theyre just too invested in their ideology. kinda like how californians will leave to a red state because they ruined theirs, but then theyll keep their old beliefs and ruin the new place. they will keep moving from game studio to game studio ruining every single one, but never willing to change their beliefs. its like asking a christian to stop believeing in jesus, never gonna happen.
>There are no such things as "natural" or "forced" diversity. Diversity is only about skin color and religion now. It's not about ideas and experience, things that were much broader. >It's all just diversity. That's what we call natural. Not this twisted bullshit people perpetrate today. When people say "we focus on diversity" or "diversity is a goal" what they're really saying is "we're attempting to meet a quota and in the process we will have to exclude people even if they would be a perfect fit". The focus on diversity will always leave you with less of it.
Justin Morales
>I am eastern Yuro that grew up under the boot of social justice and equality crowd No, you didn't, and if you actually were I think you'd know the difference.
Oliver Cruz
bioware writing has always been terrible. it's always the same old ancient evil has awoken trope. what they did well was occasionally make some well written characters
Owen Bailey
The characters in Captain Planet are made up
Samuel Miller
>That's what we call natural. Nope, 99% of the time Sup Forums calls it forced.
>and allies >literally one man >it's clearly dead inside
Jack Reed
>99% of the time Sup Forums calls it forced. Maybe 99% of the examples you use are forced? Why do you care about diversity anyways, the best kinds go unnoticed.
John Walker
probably because it is
Hudson Cook
>Maybe 99% of the examples you use are forced? I just told you, there's actually no such thing, so no.
Nicholas Mitchell
this better be bait
Jackson Ward
>It's what Homer would have wanted How the fuck can they know what were the intents of an author we have little to no concrete facts about his life?
I sincerely masturbate to the thought of young, hopeful, delusional progressive game developers losing their jobs and ending up in a life of drugs, depression, prostitution and eventual suicide.
Ryder Bennett
i am convinced
Brandon Carter
How about intersectionality which recognises the interrelatedness of all those things
Mason Gonzalez
Why do americans call him Homer? Surely the original greek name isn't that hard.
Well you haven't exactly done anything to convince me otherwise. What is exactly the difference between "forced" and "natural" diversity aside from "forced" diversity being whatever makes straight white cis nerdy teenage boys uncomfortable?
>Argue that no, it's not what Homer would have wanted >WTF ARE YOU CALLING HIM A BIGGOT WHY DO YOU ASSUME HE IS SO DISCRIMINATORY AGAINST PEOPLE OF COLOR SHAME ON YOU
If you link me a good paper (not 99% jargon with a thought provoking thesis I can begin to contemplate after only reading the abstract) focusing on the intersectionality of two of those things off of JSTOR I will cut my nuts off on livestream
Or you know it could just be the fact that EA is literal cancer to 90% of the devs it buys. I know you fucks like to pin all the worlds problems on "diversity" but the truth is sometimes corporate development pipelines don't mesh or translate well with new properties.
Andrew Morris
>(and allies)! Allies refers to the males because males cannot be members of the Cause.
>calls it how dare people use the right words for the right thing.
Luis Gutierrez
intentionality, you low-iq subhuman
Benjamin Garcia
Bioware's not dead, they just call themselves "Obsidian" now. Why mourn BF2 when PoE II is due out in a few weeks?
Aaron Collins
Nope. Increase in ethnic diversity = reduction in diversity of thought. He also complains about lack of trust, which is also linked with ethnic diversity.
Tempting but it's not like I'm a sociologist. It just seems kind of obvious. I mean, certainly the relationship between race, national identity, and class has been explored quite thoroughly.
Bentley Adams
Yeah, I know the difference, due to the abject, overwhelmingly demonstrable failure of their economic policies the social justice and equality crowd switched from concrete terms of class to more abstract terms of gender and race, while leaving their terminology and methods virtually intact. Listening to them is like having really, really bad dejavu. But tell me what I have heard in school mr. American, I am sure you know that better than me.
>implying SJWs are actually as bad communists They are literally the same shit. I am once again after a short pause called a 'reactionary' and being told that I am 'on the wrong side of history' ANOTHER fucking massive grooming scandal in UK surfaced last week, yet again the victims were silenced by the cops and their diversity officers, and everybody involved let it carry on because they were afraid to be called racist by leftist scum. You know what, I take it back, SJW's are worse than commies of old, and if they are given as much power as their predecessors, they will be ten times worse in action.
Bentley Sanchez
All video game characters, unless they are biographical, are the products of an intentional process. So therefore, you are defining prety much any diversity in video games whatsoever as forced. But the converse would be forced white male supremacy, wouldn't it? Either way there's nothing natural about it. Not even possible.
Elijah Allen
>Increase in ethnic diversity = reduction in diversity of thought. That is retarded
Adam Stewart
Does this mean EA will give DICE more money for Mirror’s Edge?
Hey, you choose to work for EA, you deal with the unavoidable consequences.
Austin Smith
Maybe you just are a reactionary, and while you're at it take your own advice and don't think you know better what goes on in other countries than the people who live there.
Diversity is only a problem if it's there for its own sake and the is compromised just to make a point. And it's totally possible to make a point in a way that enhances the game, but that takes talent. It's the fine line between art and pandering.
Sup Forums doesn't seem to complain about pandering to lonely weebs
Jackson Scott
Makes a lot of sense actually. As diversity increases, so too does trust get lower and if you can't trust anyone you won't share your ideas as freely. Which means ideology becomes more and more important, especially tyrannical ideologies which makes people unable to express themselves.