Stop hating Eureka, whito piggu
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Christian Morgan
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Dylan Evans
>just got to book step for Excalibur
Wish me luck
Tyler Edwards
*inhales*
OH NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
Ian Miller
So is it Diadem 2.0 or what?
Thomas Morris
Ganbatte user.
The suffering has only just begun.
Ian Moore
The atma and books were even worse. Eureka is just classic mmo grind
Easton James
So what will happen at the next live letter?
Leo Miller
Where do I get the antiquated stuff for Eureka armor/weapons?
John Howard
Yes, but worse.
Jonathan Gray
>Preasu buy our merchandise! Hai!
Parker Johnson
It's the gear you get as a reward for completing the level 70 job quest. If you don't have it anymore you should be able to buy it from the Calamity Salvager.
Jose Green
>the quests tell you where to go, and easily narrow down the search to a small area
>the first thing people do when they get the quests is ask where it's at in /shout because they can't deal with not having their hands held
Nathan Stewart
How did they manage that?
Joshua Perry
can i pretend i'm exploring the dark continent while grinding?
Blake Russell
every fucking time
Kevin Robinson
>every first step relic got a glow
>Monk already had a glow
>Relic is the same as the level 70 job quest reward
*Breathes in*
Jeremiah Martinez
>you can enter this zone solo
>completely fucking useless unless you're in a party
>you can join parties while in the zone
>no one wants level 1s in their party because they've been grinding since the patch dropped and they're 5+
Lmao Yoshi
Chase Young
Only way to get to Eureka is to do the mandatory story and boring leveling
Nicholas Hernandez
Owen Cruz
It's really just the antiquated gear but glowing? Jesus christ.
Blake Cruz
Devs literally can't win
Give people instant gratification and they get bored
Give them a grind them they say it's too much
Aiden Roberts
*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPP*
Ryan Howard
Give them meaningful content and they...wait, never happens.
Carson Cook
>he doesn't like my boring grind content
>I need to call him a cry baby but that's too simple
>I'd better search for a video of crying babies instead
How's that soy taste, bitch?
Elijah Murphy
Explain
I hear this all the time yet people don't give details
Adam Ortiz
You can make grinding fun. It's possible. One day you'll play a game that isn't shit and see.
Asher Bennett
It's pretty bad. Trash rewards unless you're a turbocasual or have shit taste in glamour, droning content with nothing new to offer but a minor rock-paper-scissors mechanic and some semi-decent visuals.
William Jackson
>starts crying because the grownups don't let me play in their group qq
>random implications
>muh s-s-soy!
Take your meds and fuck off you demented, oversensitive twat
Xavier Stewart
That's one of the saddest parts. The art department did a great job. The zone itself looks great and interesting.
Isaiah Watson
Give me a full list of games that do this and details
Carson Rogers
Same as in HW.
Austin Wilson
That's why grind is always the better choice. Instant gratification loses more players than endless grind.
Jack Brooks
>valid criticism of shitty content I like because it calms my autism
>SOUNDS LIKE CRYING TO ME
Gb2 rdt
Oliver Morris
Yes, but monk was already that so it's literally nothing
Daniel Young
What's to explain? Are you a fucking brainlet?
>grind mobs for hours, hours, and hours
>to get some recycled shit weapon and armor that are not even relevant combat-wise
>you can't even exp lower level classes
>and that's fucking it, there's absolutely nothing else
>this shit got DELAYED many times and this is what we get after many months
Ayden Diaz
Any modern fps with progression, game itself is fun and you unlock more skins/weapons while actually enjoying the game. Ex: Titanfall 2 and Battlefield ANY
Grinding levels in Souls games is fun if you find a method you enjoy, such as helping others defeat bosses or set up a sequence to run through.
Joshua Lewis
I have no problem with having to party up and talk with others, but jesus this exp gain is draining everyone
Ryder Sullivan
>the only good thing about this update was the Hildibrand ending
Christian Brooks
Explain this content you want without sperging out like a child
Carter Thompson
it's like you guys don't remember diadem 1.0, this will be the 3rd time they have made it, and they have become exceedingly efficient at it. This is another dino island though just with levels and elements to make people move around killing mobs instead of staying in one place and killing mobs how the fuck this got delayed numerous times is beyond me.
Angel Garcia
how long until this honourable samurai commits sudoku?
Levi Garcia
Keep in mind XIV has a lot of players who never touched XI.
Xavier Murphy
More fucking raid battles, trials, dungeons
The only content that this game does good
That's fucking it
Jaxon King
i don't mind the exp gain and level 20 feeling far away but at least give me things to look forward to in the mean time there is too little reward for levelling up that it just feels futile and that you're not even getting anywhere
Camden King
i don't even mean XI, i mean the diadem that didn't have fates and was released in 3.1 then that was stopped and rereleased completely in 3.55, making eureka the third iteration of ff14 diadem shit.
Adrian Lee
At least PotD has a use.
Ayden Lopez
>but old MMOs did it
>its fun with friends
>it's fine if you watch TV or browse while you play
Why the fuck do people use these excuses? The only one of these with any credence is the friends one. Yes, MMOs are social games meant to be played with others. That's fine. My question is, when did that suddenly excuse drab content?
Easton Powell
You know is going to be in the cash shop man.
Brayden Turner
Reminder that this is the THIRD iteration of this type of content. Even if you think Eureka isn't that bad, there's no excuse for it to not be amazing at this point.
David Allen
>making eureka the third iteration of ff14 diadem shit.
Diadem 2.0 has much more going on than Eureka currently does. Eureka is mob camps and the odd NM Fate that spawns based on some condition. Diadem 2.0 had objectives to deal with, environment hazards, an underworld with harder mobs. Random chests in the environment. Gathering. Rotating fates. And the odd alliance-dungeon style boss that would spawn on a random timer.
Jace Powell
Music rip when?
Michael Gray
>XIV adds Durreka this month with outdated rewards
>Meanwhile XI gets hard-mode Dynamis - Jeuno with relevant drops
Ryder Taylor
maybe i wasn't clear, i mean to compare it to dino island from diadem 1.0 only with forced movement around the map rather than just staying on dino island, but lets be honest here both diadems and eureka are complete shit and the dev team need to realise this is horrible game design.
Parker Martinez
>you take way more time grinding for a 355 weapon than learning and progging the entire savage for a 370/375f
Eli Nelson
Casual players don't care about time spent. They care about the effort they would have to out in to not be terrible at the game.
Isaiah Lewis
If you have to do shitty grind for one dyeable AF set, which would it be?
I'll probably do one for samurai, heck maybe just chest piece even.
Christian Brown
Even the Hildibrand storyline for SB is disappointing. ARR was fantastic and HW dropped in quality but it was still decent.
Jaxon Baker
wtf why hasn't XI been shut down yet surely the cost to run it outweighs the revenue it generates at this point?
Landon Hall
Since the saturation of the MMO market and stopped and developers no longer need to innovate to stay relevant. It's kind of hard to believe a sub fee MMO released mechanically horrifically dated content and dressed it up as a nostalgic trip.
Brody Cooper
Another lootless week. I'm starting to hate this game slowly.
Carter Davis
>tfw your main job's AF set dyes like shit
Brandon Howard
Monster Hunter. The grinding is fun and keeps you on your toes instead of doing monotonous shit over and over.
Isaac Flores
There's like three actually good AF armor sets and they already look amazing without any dyes. I'd rather not have metallic-dyed DRKs and DRGs ruining the aesthetics.
Hudson Perez
I'd rip her arsehole.
Jordan Myers
Remember when they said Eureka would be an alternate path of progression and would be a major component of the game.
Levi Gonzalez
>4 interns working for cafeteria food
vs
>probably 20k subscribers
I think XI generates money for them still.
Luis Jackson
So we all agree that WoW Legion btfo Stormblood?
Jayden Jones
Servers are cheap and XI's dev team is three members these days. They've become rather efficient at recycling existing content into new content the past year and a half, all the while adding new QoLs, like a glamor system that shits over XIV's take.
It's almost as if XIV's devs should take a note or two from them. Not every piece of content needs a unique dungeon, theme, and enemy models to go with it.
James Smith
No, they're both terrible in their own way. MMOs are dead.
John Clark
F I V E M A T E R I A S L O T S
Noah Young
What happened the mobile that they were making for XI?
Blake Russell
They were both shit for different reasons.
Asher Cox
Still no real word on it, and still not officially cancelled. It's been taking them so long at this point that they'd be better off ditching it and trying to do a mobile take on XIV instead.
No one on the mobile knows what XI is or gives a shit about it.
Liam Wright
Can someone who has never played XI even hope to get anywhere meaningful in the game at this point? I'm curious about it but I don't intend to go super hard on it either. I also don't know anyone who plays.
Cameron Hughes
>"Hey the story of this thing seems cool maybe I'l try to grind for it to learn more about it!"
>10,000 xp required to get to level 5
>mobs give between 5 and 10 xp
Yeah no fuck it, I explored the whole map in like 5 minutes and nothing seemed worth the trouble other than the Aethernet thing.
Luke Hughes
That's some comfy looking bamboo forest.
Landon Thomas
I don't hate it, it's a mostly positive nostalgia bomb gameplay-wise.
Most of the FFXIV kiddies get worn out a bit too fast on it though.
Nathaniel Nelson
Anybody complainjng about the amount of grind here have no idea what real grinding is all about
Alexander Brooks
Is the cape in the DRK one still purple if you dye it?
Juan Nguyen
Rowena may be a jew that makes Lalas jealous and keeps catgirls in indentured slavery, but goddamn is she hot in that hippie coat.
Connor Sullivan
PSO was more fun to play though
Wyatt Lewis
Comfy until the music starts playing, which anyone who's caught up on XIV shit will recognize.
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Nevermind the giant black holes eating away at the zone in the distance.
Jackson Flores
I'm going to dye the RDM set blue.
Nolan Jones
It's embarassing that this game doesn't have a single fun thing to do in it.
Dungeons are not fun
Alliance Raids are not fun
Savage is not fun by the third week, or not fun at all with PuGs
PvP is not fun
PotD is not fun
FATEs are not fun
Hunts are not fun
Beast Tribe Dailies are not fun
Diadem wasn't fun
Lords of Verminion wasn't fun
Fashion Report is not fun
Eureka is not fun
Pretty much any content that involves you having to play with other people is not fun
Only reason to login is because you're forced to get your tomes and pages for the week.
Levi Hughes
Oh wow. They added a XIV song in XI after 4.2!
Eli Hill
How about you quit the game
Connor Brown
I'm not interested in dyeing my AF3 but increasing the stats is probably worth it for my retainer
Mason Cook
>Exp to level in Eureka literally doubles every level
>Still getting like 50-100 exp per mob even around level 6
Alright, I'm out. Back to grinding tomestones and Sigmascape.
Jason Evans
Let's be clear here, grinding is only acceptable in a game where it's treated as a long term goal because you're working towards something that will be useful to you forever, not replaced in a patch cycle/future update. Even then, the gameplay systems also need to be fun to make it acceptable.
Hunter Lee
I don't mind the concept of Eureka at all, being able to party and shitpost with cross server people in the same zone is awesome. the problem is that the rewards/exp gain is not enough. they made it FFXI tier grindy which is not good in 2018
Adrian Hernandez
This. Another "big new feature" that's dead in the water because of the double whammy of being uninteresting and lackluster rewards.
Jeremiah Morales
Hell hath no passive aggressive fury like telling your fc that no, Eureka isn't fun.
Nolan Jenkins
>Ding dong bannu but still haven't gotten an email so I can't tell how long it is
Fucking epic, Yoshi.
Jack Price
>dosoku on tatami
shamefur dispray, ijin
Landon Moore
Honestly I was find with the rewards, but it's already taking 2+ hours per level around elemental level 6.
You'd be better of just sitting there AFK until the NMs show up and doing that.
Christopher Moore
Good job cheating.
Justin Long
It gets more updates than ff14 does. Thousands of people still play too. Multiple a few thousand players a month and tack a sub fee on. It's not hard to see it making money still.
Ryder Thompson
Wait I recognize that fucking song
Easton Sanders
If it was ungabunga it's perm.
Charles Davis
You'll be able to complete all story missions available just by getting to 99 and doing the quests for easy 119 gear.
Getting to endgame is an entire different issue. You'll need to grind for months and months for the stat boosts with Merits & Job Points to be able to even touch true endgame. Which at this point is just to play the game more efficiently and fight the Master Trials.