If Nintendo put you in charge of creating a compilation of 30 of their best games, what would you pick?
Hard mode: 3 Games Per System
Very Hard Mode: 2 Games Per Franchise + Rules Above
Lunatic Mode: No Third Party Shit + Rules Above
Dante Must Die Mode: No M Rated Games + Rules Above
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>The differece between Dante Hard Mode and Lunatic is that you cant say Eternal Darkness
30 is way too much to list aswelll
>nothing by Rare
Sorry, can’t be done
15 mario games and 15 zelda games.
You wouldn't be able to say Eternal Darkness either way. Silicon Knights has never been owned by Nintendo.
On that note, OP, do you not know how difficulties work? Nintendo has never made an M-rated game, so if you exclude all third party games, then excluding all M-rated games after third party games is pointless.
Drawing one up on Dante Must Die right now. Give me a bit.
Fuck your hard modes. However I am not including third parties in my list.
1. Mario Bros 3
2. Super Mario World
3. A Link to the Past
4. Link's Awakening
5. Super Metroid
6. Donkey Kong Country 2
7. Kirby Superstar (Ultra, probably)
8. Star Fox 64
9. Ocarina of Time
10. Majora's Mask
11. Mario 64
12. Banjo Kazooie (does this count?)
13. Paper Mario
14. Warioland 4
15. Metroid: Zero Mission
16. Mario and Luigi: Superstar Saga
17. Mother 3
18. Metroid Prime (yes the first one, fight me)
19. Pokemon HG/SS (but really Platinum, BW, and BW2 would do just fine here as well)
20. F-Zero GX
21. Smash Bros Melee
22. Pikmin 3
23. Mario Galaxy 2
24. Xenoblade Chronicles
25. Sin and Punishment: Star Successor
26. Kid Icarus Uprising
27. Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze
28. Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
29. The Wonderful 101
30. Breath of the Wild
Maybe I'm a hypocrite for axing some sequels or past installments for fear of redundancy but keeping Super Mario World, Link's Awakening, and Major but I don't fucking care.
Well I don't know the nuances of Eternal Darkness' copyright, but I do know you don't have to own the company making your game to own your game's IP. Intelligent Systems is independent of Nintendo but that doesn't mean Nintendo doesn't own Fire Emblem.
NES:
Super Mario Bros
Metroid
Punch-Out
Game Boy:
Pokemon Red
Donkey Kong
Kirby's Dream Land
SNES:
Link to the Past
Super Mario World
Earthbound
Game Boy Color:
Perfect Dark
Wario Land II
Tetris DX
N64:
GoldenEye 007
Star Fox 64
Banjo-Kazooie
Game Boy Advance
Advance Wars 2: Black Hole Rising
Fire Emblem (Rekka no Ken)
Kirby and the Amazing Mirror
Gamecube:
Super Smash Bros Melee
Metroid Prime
Pikmin
DS:
Kirby Squeak Squad
Pokemon Platinum
Yoshi's Island DS
Wii:
Donkey Kong Country Returns
Super Smash Bros Brawl
Super Paper Mario
3DS:
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Fire Emblem: Awakening
Switch:
Breath of the Wild
The 2 games per franchise was pretty tough. I counted Mario spinoffs (i.e. Yoshi's Island and Super Paper Mario) as a separate series from mainline Mario, because they pretty much are.
Feel free to bitch at me.
You're right, Nintendo owns the IP, but they don't own the dev, so it's still not a first party game.
> NES/Famicom
Super Mario Bros 3
Kirby's Adventure
Legend of Zelda
> Gameboy
Kirby's Dreamland 2
Pokemon Gold/Silver
Tetris
>Super Nintendo
Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past
Super Mario World
Super Metroid
>Nintendo 64
Super Smash Bros
Starfox 64
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
>Gameboy Advance
Metroid Zero Mission
Advance Wars
Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga
>Nintendo Gamecube
Super Smash Bros Melee
Legend of Zelda: The Windwaker
Metroid Prime
>Nintendo DS
New Super Mario Bros
Pokemon Diamond/Platinum
>Nintendo Wii
Super Mario Galaxy
Xenoblade Chronicles (second-party as far as I know)
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
>Nintendo Wii U
Splattoon
Super Mario Maker
Mario Kart 8
>Nintendo 3DS
Super Mario 3D Land
>Nintendo Switch
Breath of the Wild
Super Mario Odyssey
Xenoblade Chronicles 2
30 installs of Majoras Mask.
Well actually yes, it would be. If you own the IP, it is first part. "Second party" doesn't really exist but it could sort of be used to describe a shared ownership like with Pokemon.
>playing in anything below Dante Must Die
NES
>The Legend of Zelda
>Metroid
>Punch Out!
SNES
>Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island
>Earthbound
>Super Metroid
N64
>Mario Party 2
>Kirby 64
>Star Fox 64
GCN
>F-Zero GX
>Mario Kart Double Dash!
>Super Smash Bros Melee
Wii
>Super Mario Galaxy
>Kirby Return to Dreamland
>Mario Kart Wii
WiiU
>Pikmin 3
>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
>Mario Maker
Game Boy
>Pokemon Red/Blue
>Tetris
>Dr. Mario
Game Boy Advance
>Wario Land 4
>MOTHER 3
>Fire Emblem: Sacred Stones
Nintendo DS/i
>Pokemon Heartgold/SoulSilver
>Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon
>Hotel Dusk: Room 215
Nintendo 3DS/N3DS
>Kid Icarus: Uprising
>Xenoblade Chronicles
>Rythm Heaven: Megamix
No 3rd Party, No more than 2 games per IP, Nintendo only, Final Destination.
>Perfect Dark
>Goldeneye
>first party
>"Second party" doesn't really exist
The fuck it doesn't.
>first party: developed by the people who made the hardware (Sony, Nintendo)
>second party: developed by wholly or partially owned subsidiary (Naughty Dog, Rare)
>third party: developed by wholly independent company (Ubisoft, EA)
This has always been the case.
>second party: developed by wholly or partially owned subsidiary (Naughty Dog, Rare)
That's purely colloquial. If you own the IP, it is first party from a legal standpoint.
I'm brainlet apparently.
>take out Perfect Dark
>replace Super Mario World with Super Metroid
>replace GoldenEye with Super Mario 64
>add in Splatoon
>Pokemon HG/SS
>Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Hello Redoot
>If you own the IP, it is first party from a legal standpoint.
Super Mario RPG the Legend of the Seven Stars says hi
>NES
Super Mario Bros.
The Legend of Zelda
Metroid
Punch Out!!
Tetris
>SNES
F-Zero
Star Fox
Kirby Super Star
Earthbound
Yoshi's Island
>N64
Mario 64
OOT
Star Fox 64
Mario Party 2
Pokemon Stadium 2
>GameCube
Metroid Prime
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Paper Mario TTYD
Luigi's Mansion
Animal Crossing
>Wii
Super Mario Galaxy
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn
Xenoblade Chronicles
Donkey Kong Country Returns
Mario Kart Wii
>Wii U/Switch
Breath of the Wild
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Splatoon
Super Mario Maker
Super Mario Oddesey
>That's purely colloquial.
All three terms are purely colloquial.
Yeah, the circumstances of that one are beyond me, so you've got me there. However, Geno is considered a third party character, so second party still doesn't actually exist beyond colloquial terms.
>That Gameboy Color List
I'll only save Tetris because is fucking Tetris and gets a free pass but dammit.
>Yoshi's Island DS
>Being the best of anything
Yeah, no thanks.
>Link to the Past
>Ocarina of Time
>Super Mario World
>Super Mario 64
>Super Mario Galaxy
>Super Mario RPG
>Metroid Prime and the best 2D Metroid game (I've never played any of them)
>Donkey Kong Country 2
>SSB Melee
>Pokemon B2/W2 (this counts as one game)
>Final Fantasy 6
>Chrono Trigger
>Perfect Dark
>Earthbound
>Pikmin
>One of the Fire Emblem games
>Animal Crossing: New Leaf
>One of the Kirby games
>One of the Star Fox games
>Mega Man X
>Super Bomberman
>One of the F-Zero games
>Super Mario Kart (or Mario Kart 64)
>Contra 3
>Secret of Mana
>Shadowrun
>Killer Instinct
>Breath of Fire 2
>Earthworm Jim 2
That's not really true, if an argument over ownership of a character were to be used in court, it would be over whether the character was owned by a publishing first party or a collaborating third party. The second party in the most literal sense is actually you, the consumer. If you think of this in terms of how stories can be written, it should all make sense to you. That should properly contextualize what it means to be the first, second, and third person.
NES
>Super Mario Bros. 3
>Zelda 2
>Kirby's Adventure
SNES
>Super Mario All-Stars + World
>Earthbound
>Donkey Kong Country (if it doesn't count, SimCity)
Gameboy
>Wario Land 2
>Super Mario Land 2
>Kirby's Dreamland 2
Nintendo 64
>Super Mario 64
>Mario Kart 64
>Majora's Mask
Gamecube
>Super Mario Sunshine
>Star Fox Assault
>Mario Party 4
Game Boy Advance
>Wario Land 4
>Mario & Luigi SSS
>Kirby and the Amazing Mirror
Wii
None
DS
>Kirby Super Star Ultra
>New Super Mario Bros
3DS
>WarioWare Gold
>Animal Crossing New Leaf
>MiiTopia
WiiU
>Super Mario 3D World
>Smash
ahh fuck your rules
They were more quota-fillers than anything else. I'll admit they're kind of shit. It's hard to find shit published by Nintendo only with only 2 games per franchise. I had to make some compromises.
huh, didn't know Nintendo made Contra 3, Earthworm Jim and Final Fantasy
Clearly wasn't adhering to those rules to begin with, so don't know what your issue is.
>yfw it will come out instead of virtual console
>it will come in different volumes. Each volume would have a short supply.
>you can get achievements from doing certain things in the games. You could unlock other games, artwork, making of videos, and comics.
>NES
Super Mario Bros 3
The Legend of Zelda
Kirby's Adventure
>SNES
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Super Mario World
Super Metroid
>GB
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening
Tetris
Super Mario Land 2
>N64
Super Mario 64
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Donkey Kong 64 (fuck you i liked it)
>GBA
Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen
Metroid: Zero Mission
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
>GCN
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
Super Mario Sunshine
Luigi's Mansion
>DS
Mario Kart DS
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl
Kirby Super Star Ultra
>Wii
Super Mario Galaxy
Metroid Prime
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
>3DS
Fire Emblem Fates
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D
Kid Icarus: Uprising
>Wii U
Wonderful 101
Super Mario Maker
Super Mario 3D World
I tried to make it more than a Zelda/Mario box.
Hard mode is pretty hard.
Its supposed to be a Nintendo compilation. Why post if your not gonna follow the theme?
Pretend it's 1998. Banjo-Kazooie just came out, developed by Rare, a company that Nintendo owns (present tense; remember, it's 1998) nearly half of. You're saying B-K is a third party game.
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>NES
Super Mario Bros 3
Kirby
Zelda
>SNES
Super Metroid
Mario World
A link to the past / Kirby Superstar
>Gameboy
Pokemon Gold/Silver
Link's Awakening
Duck Tales
>N64
Mario 64
Ocarina of Time
Pokémon Stadium 2
>GameBoy Advance
Minish Cap
Metroid Fusion
Final Fantaay Tactics Advance (I had to)
>GameCube
Wind Waker
Luigi's Mansion
Melee
>Wii
Galaxy
Skyward Sword (yeah Fuck you)
Brawl
>DS
Pokemon EoS
Mario Kart
Pokémon HGSS
>WiiU
Splatoon
3DWorld
Sm4sh
>3DS
Pokémon XY/ORAS
MH4G
Metroid SR
>Switch
BoTW
Splat2
Odyssey
>NES:
Super mario bros. 3
The Legend of Zelda
Punch Out
>SNES:
Super Metroid
Yoshi's island
Earthbound
>N64:
Ocarina of time
Mario 64
F-Zero X
>GameCube
Melee
Windwaker
Pikmin
>Wii
Sin and Punishment 2
Xenoblade Chronicles
Metroid Prime trilogy (Loophole)
>Wii U
Splatoon
Pikmin 3
Mario Kart 8
that's 21 and obeying all the rules. Shit's kinda hard the further you go along
Well I'm not sure, user. Did they have claim over Rare's IPs at the time? If so, then it was first party. If not, then it was third party. IP ownership is all it really comes down to. A game made by the console manufacturer or its subsidiaries, the first party, consumed by you, the second party. A game made by an outside developer, a third party, for a console maker, a first party, consumed by you, a second party. That's the most literal definition of the term.
There's nothing wrong in using "second party" to describe a game with weird ownership or development around it but it's not an actual term to describe the business of development and consumption.
> NES/Famicom
Super Mario Bros 3
Castlevania
Legend of Zelda
> Gameboy
Legend of Zelda: Links awakening
Kirby’s Dream Land
Tetris
>Super Nintendo
Legend of Zelda: Link to the Past
Super Mario World
Super Metroid
>Nintendo 64
Super Mario 64
Starfox 64
Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
>Gameboy Colour
Legend of Zelda: Oracle of seasons/ages
Pokemon Crystal
Pokemon Trading Card Game
>Gameboy Advance
Mother 3
Advance Wars 2
Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga
>Nintendo Gamecube
Super Smash Bros Melee
Pikmin 2
Metroid Prime
>Nintendo DS
Mario and Luigi Bowsers Inside story
Advance Wars Days of Ruin
Elite Beat Agents
>Nintendo Wii
Super Mario Galaxy 2
Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
Donkey Kong Country Returns
>Nintendo 3DS
Bravely Default
Kid Icarus: Uprising
Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
Keeping to first party, no re-releases, and 3 per system is rough,.I missed out on 2 of the best games of all time (Killer 7 and Ghost trick) and really had to stretch for the 3DS first party titles. It's a good list, but in no way perfect, missing some real gems from the NES, SNES, Gamecube, and Gameboy advance era even still keeping to first party.
The IP is and was owned by Rare. The company was a subsidiary of Nintendo. So was the game first or third party, since I assume we can both agree that it can't be both.
>Castlevania
>Elite Beat Agents
>Bravely Default
>first party
Well from a legal standpoint they would probably be considered first party but under a loose contract. The deal meant that anything developed in house by Rare was under their copyright and then property of Microsoft.
Now things can be different for every developer, but Gamefreak for example has the ability to make different IPs for different systems under certain circumstances, just not Pokemon without Nintendo's permission. It's possible that Rare was under a similar bind with anything original they developed under Nintendo's umbrella, until the Microsoft buyout that is.
I'll play your rules. I'm assuming GB & GBC count as one thing and Switch games are not a part of this.
NES
>Super Mario 3
>Kid Icarus
>Duck Hunt
Super NES
>Super Metroid
>Donkey Kong Country 2
>Earthbound
Gameboy
>Link's Awakening
>Pokemon Yellow (since you only get one)
>Wario Land 3
N64
>Ocarina of Time
>Diddy Kong Racing
>Wave Race 64
Gameboy Advance
>Wario Land 4
>Golden Sun
>Mother 3
Gamecube
>Melee
>Metroid Prime 1
>F-Zero GX
DS
>Mario Kart DS
>Mario & Luigi Bowser's Inside Story
>Rhythm Heaven
Wii
>Mario Galaxy 2
>Wii Sports
>Xenoblade Chronicals
3DS
>Kid Icarus Uprising
>Mario & Luigi Dream Team
>Animal Crossing New Leaf
Wii U
>Smash 4
>Mario Kart 8
>Wonderful 101 (this is a nintendo IP, if this doesn't count, I'll say Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze)
The Nintendo 30.
NES:
1. Super Mario Bros 3
2 Kirby's Adventure
3. Punch-Out
SNES:
4. A Link to the Past
5. Super Metroid
6. Donkey Kong Country
GBC:
7. Pokémon Crystal
8. Tetris (was published by Nintendo)
9. Donkey Kong
N64:
10. Super Mario 64
11. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
12. Pilotwings 64
GBA:
13. Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland
14. Mother 3
15. Metroid Zero Mission
GC:
16. Animal Crossing
17. Super Smash Bros Melee
18. Metroid Prime
DS:
19. Nintendogs
20. Pokémon Black 2
WII:
21. Wii Sports Resort
22. Xenoblade Chronicles
23. Wii Play
3DS:
24. Kid Icarus Uprising
25. Kirby Triple Deluxe
26. Fire Emblem Awakening
WII U:
27. The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild
28. Mario Kart 8
29. Pikmin 3
SWITCH:
30. Splatoon 2
>NES:
>Metroid
into the trash
Elite beat agents was Nintendo published, but you're right about Castlevania and Bravely Default. Bravely Default was only published by Nintendo outside of Japan, and being in the US myself I had to look that up, and I simply fucked up with Castlevania, that should be Metroid.
>Metroid
>Metroid II: Return of Samus
>Super Metroid
>Metroid Fusion
>Metroid Prime
>Metroid: Zero Mission
>Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
>Metroid Prime Pinball
>Metroid Prime Hunters
>Metroid Prime 3: Corruption
>Metroid Prime Trilogy
>Metroid: Samus Returns
>18 more copies of Super Metroid.
I can't even name many first party games for the NES, SNES, and handhelds since they had so much third party support.
Crash Bandicoot 1
Crash Bandicoot 2
Crash Bandicoot 3
Dark Souls
Monster Hunter 4U
Wario Ware
Wario Ware: Touched
Wario Ware: Twisted
Super Mario All Stars + SMW
Super Smash Bros Melee
Majora's Mask
Super Mario 64
Wind Waker
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 4