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Who won?
Kenshiro. Jotaro couldn’t find the right clone in time and when he grabbed Kenshiros heart it was a duplicate. Kenshiro was able to keep him at bay with ki blasts and was elusive enough with Musou tensei to poke Jotaro before the time stop so he blew up after it was over
Where is this shit
Still should've been Yu.
VIDEO GAMES
JOJOBRONIES BTFO
OP is a fag the battle isn't out yet
This, don't believe OP's lies.
Jotaro's probably gonna win, but the fight I hope will be great.
How is Hokuto Ga Gotoku?
It is probably out on that early access RT thing.
>the first JoJo to appear on DB is Jotaro
Josephfags blown the fuck out.Can we all finally agree now who is best JoJo?
If there was a Hokuto no ken RTS.
Should the the main characters like in Battle for middle earth?
or should be even more absurdly stronger and be as strong as Dawn of War 3 hero units?
I don't understand how Kenshiro can beat a stand that is just as strong as him but, also invisible, untouchable, and can stop time.
yeah the time stop is really undervalued - it usually takes just one time stop to kill basically anything. I mean dude, you basically touch anything and it explodes from inifinite force pushing on it.
If you’re a fan of RGG and HnK, you’ll like it.
Anyone gonna leak it or what?
Seriously.
Kenshiro beating Jotaro is as bullshit as Yang beating Tifa or Post Crisis Supes beating Multi Solar System to Galaxy Level SS4 Goku
Seriously.
Nothing was stopping Jotaro from Time Stopping from the start and beating Ken to a pulp.
Shit battle.
But that never happens in Jojo. If it did, everything Dio and Jotaro touches after the time stops would be destroyed, like floors, people, cars, ect. All hits in a Jojo time stop are as effective as they would be without the time stop
Makes sense.
Jotaro's cool af, he's built like a Brickhouse, he's sharp as a scalpel, he has a bull shit ghost that gives him limited time stopping powers, godlike precision eyesight, and a ludicrously vicious close range punching game.
But he isn't really trained, he gets lotso experience through part 3, 4 and beyond. But fucking Kenshiro, the fist of the north star, the man with seven scars on his chest...
He's literally trained his body to be the most absolutely efficient peak physical capabilities for fucking brutal no bullshit assassination. He's a grandmaster at the THEE most deadly art of assassination in existence, so much that there's only allowed to be one master at a time, so only one pupil passes, while all the others get there fucking hands blown off so they can never use the style ever again, lol.
Plus it has the Bullshit ability to let Ken permanently learn moves that his opponents use on him when they fight, like fucking mega man. So by the time he defeats every other master and pupil, and there underlings and there underlings in the wasteland, he almost reaches the levels of a god, with the ludicrous goddamn shit he's capable of.
ATATATATATATATA
I'll take "mangakas who know shit about physics" for 200$
Gyro
>kenshiro beating jotaro
>bullshit
People who have never seen HnK shouldn't be able to discuss who would win
fight link plis.
Where is the science behind hitting stuff in Time stop = Infinite strenght?
Not denying, but legit interested.
Over Heaven
And Ken shouldnt be able to see sp nor do anything in Time Stop.
No fucking shit Kenshiro would win. Kasumi Kenshiro managed to stop a large storm that would have covered an island with a punch, and he's weaker than EoS HnK Kenshiro. Even a dying Raoh, who is equal to 30% EoS Kenshiro, can change large cloud formations with a punch from ground level. Kenshiro would kill Jotaro with one punch whereas Jotaro has nothing that would hurt Kenshiro because Star Platinum's punches are pretty fucking weak. Also, Jojofags are meme spouting cucks who forget that Jotaro can't spam time stop.
>Musou Tensei
Fucking broken. If it were a stand, it would be second to GER. Defensive capabilities that are so high that Kenshiro can phase through attacks. Offensive capabilities that are so high that Ken could disrupt and destroy matter, which is meant to be impossible to destroy. Not only that but Kenshiro can use the techniques of his past rivals, friends, and enemies. This means he can use Toki's attacks and instantly kill Jotaro by radiating his aura so that he can die while having the greatest orgasm of his life, or he can slice faggots at a cellular level. Kaioh is also one of the fighters Ken remembers at the end of the manga, so he can just hax Jotaro to death with his techniques. Lastly, Kenshiro can activate Musou Tensei instantly as he is always in a state of sadness after losing his beloved Yuria as well as his many rivals. Even Kasumi Kenshiro can use Musou Tensei without having to think.
I don't give a shit if this post is long. I spit on the Jojo fanbase. How dare they believe they can defeat Hokuto Shinken! They are out of their minds!
it's Johnny, Jotaro is the normiest of them all and by the worst by default.
>really edgy to appeal to 13 year olds
>constantly wins by asspulls and poor writing
>always the best/strongest/fastest/smartest, no real stakes in anything he's involved in
Jotaro is goth Joseph
Wasn't really a fair fight; Kenshiro is waaaay deadlier, to the point where if he touches you, your practically dead.
A better opponent would have been Dio, honestly, if only because he could probably survive.
>Yuria Shows up, she win the fight with the power of the Mother star.
Jotaro got Made in Heaven'd no challenge.
And i am from the few ones that belueve that Josuke could beat him evem with Time Stop.
tl;dr Jo's a badass because he bluffs and baits his enemies with clever tactics and use of his environment and current repertoire of abilities, which always seemingly leave him at disadvantages, but always end up being just enough to get by in one piece and with the enemy defeated.
Ken is the messiah, and he has the power to back it up. He can bluff all day, he can bluff so fucking hard it won't be possible for you to believe it, no matter how hard you try, but he'll probably fucking be able to back it up. And he actually does it all the fucking time. He'll give warnings all day to motherfuckers trying to run to up on his shit or other people's shit, and then they choose death, and Ken showers them in overwhelming loads of it.
He's instantly healed the sick. Conquered multiple kingdoms and empires. He's literally walked unfazed through ultra huge skyscrapers collapsing directly on him. He kills you by poking your forehead and counting down the seconds out loud to you before your head fucking explodes.
It's no contest. They shouldn't have done a vs battle with them both. They clearly didn't fully understand how strong they both are, and picked them just cause they look really similar.
How is moralfag supposed to defeat an opponent with an invisible unbeatable ally that can stop time?
>videogame
Over heaven would kill Kenshiro no challenge.
So you can say they were restricting Jotaro in this fight.
Anywho, Ken cannot to anything about Star Platinum phasing thru him in stopped time nor blocking every single attack because SP is FTL.
If it were their canon personalities, they would be bros instead of fighting.
>really edgy to appeal to 13 year olds
>constantly wins by asspulls and poor writing
These apply to Johnny too.
I think it's the fact that a person moving during a time stop can move X distance over literally 0 time, making the speed formula (X distance)/0, which is impossible. Then use that speed for Force and Momentum equations.
Too bad that never happens in Jojo.
Over Heaven is non-canon. If you seriously think it's a part of the manga, then you don't even know your Jojo despite believing Jotaro can beat Kenshiro.
And moves Faster than Light, dont forget that fact.
Still, its a restricted Jotaro vs a composite Kenshiro, hardly fair at all.
Jotaro vs Yu would have been a lot better.
that had to do more with MiH being too OP for anyone rather than some gay priest's skill as a fighter.
don't you mean Kira?
>not Josuke
Johnny isnt edgy
Jotaro wasn't an edgelord though.
they do count non canon shit tho
Jotaro's main weakness is if his attentions are divided like needing to protect someone else. In a 1v1 though he is nigh unstoppable. If Jotaro didn't understand HnK there's a real chance he could be killed though.
Its not part of the manga, BUT Death Battle is using a composite Ken against a Manga restrained Jotaro.
Which is not fair.
This was really disrespectful to both sides
It's canon Jotaro vs canon Kenshiro.
If this show was accurate, it wouldn't be getting as much views. Or any threads on this site.
This fight was always going to come out who hits who first. And I doubt Kenshiro would lose in that. The dude is used to fucking people up.
Yeah, but there are indeed things that Jotaro couldnt have beaten without help, and MiH literally one shotted him.
No, Part 4 Josuke vs Part 3 Jotaro.
He is far more clever and know the bullet shooting thingy with Crazy Diamond.
But thats just my headcanon.
Two schools actually. One claims what you do, the other claims that during timestop there would be immovable atoms all around you and since you cannot affect them, you are basically rooted in place and paralyzed since their mass is infinite in regards to you as it cannot travel any distance during the timestop.
I prefer Hamon over Stands
how does
>leveling up your stand through trials and tribulations and having it evolve as the user evolves as well
the same as
>having the best stand from the get go that randomly gets new powers to suit the writers need, and he can also stop time for 5 seconds even though it took Dio ages to learn how to control his stand's power
Jotaro fans are the worst
Star Platinum is faster than light, he would have stopped every single attack from Ken.
Im not saying he could have killed Ken with raw strenght, but he could have 100% stopped Hokuto Hyakuretsu Ken by sheer speed alone.
NEXT TIME
I like Ken but Jotaro could just stop time and crush his head with Star Platinum instantly. Unless Kenshiro's head is stronger than Diamonds. Not to mention the fact that Ken can't see or touch it but it can easily hit him.
>Watching Death Battle
>not just watching One Minute Minute instead to cut the bullshit and just watch a (usually) well-animated fight scene that doesn't weigh itself down with canon
It's hilarious that ScrewAttack started their own no-research animated fights show in DBX and it fucking sucked. The worst OMMs I've ever seen are about on par with an average DBX.
Jotaro was almost killed by a fucking rat even with Time Stop.
And Giorno is even worse.
Me too
i'd say the biggest issue is that jotaro's asspull powers (star finger, the breathing thing, to name the two that i am reminded of the most) are never used again, even when it'd be useful. for me it just bugs me more when you got useful skills that are forgotten rather then suddenly doing a new thing.
Gappy is the best JoJo
It’s a lot weaker than him
It’s faster and has a mini time stop but Kenshiro is MUCH stronger and more durable and also has musou gender intangibility
Even if Jotaro couldnt kill Ken with SP's raw strenght, it would have been an stalemate as Ken is SLOW AS FUCK compared to SP.
SP could just block every single attack from Ken
It's a shame that they never get reused, but at least Star Finger is a great move in Heritage. Shit even pulls people in when they block.
Nah Kenshiro should win
But you’re right that post crisis Superman should lose to Mastered Ultra Instinct or SS4 Goku who is Universal
no dude CD is actually stronger than SP without time stop, as shown by Jotaro losing his shit the first time meeting Josuke. So I kinda see where you're coming from.
Koichi did all that and he was garbage for it.
Star Platinum is Faster than Light.
Even if Kenshiro could see it and touch it, it woild have been useless.
He is just far, far too slow to affect it.
And spirits dont have pressure points.
Even if completely outmatched in strenght, it would have been an stalemate.
It’s on their website early access
>And spirits dont have pressure points.
An attack on a stand has a 1:1 affect on the user, so that's not an issue because Jotaro would feel it.
non-canon things are sometimes counted and sometimes not in Death Battle. It usually depends on how ScrewAttack feels about it too, which is dumb.
They sometimes even ignore canon facts, even ones that they mention, like how Kirby is 8 inches tall, can't swallow enemies much bigger than him, but still eats Buu, then they also use a fan theory about Kirby visiting a post-nuclear Earth and use its hub icon to determine how big Pop Star is.
Stuff like that pisses me off, since they could of gone with the "Kirby uses the star rod on Buu" route, and they constantly get simple facts wrong ever since late season 2. It also broke my heart that Raven didn't fight Reiuji Utsuho because "Lol She's voiced by Terra Strong. She should fight a character only related to her by voice actor"
>it's in goku's nature to want to fight an opponent at his strongest
>he'll indulge in this attitude in the hypothetical scenario where all combatants lose their morals and become determined to commit murder
Don't worry. You won't see the god-ki recoil damage again ;)
fuck these garbage videos
nah, Jotaro was just surprised, Star Platinum is the physically strongest stand.
>because there was a build-up to the mary sue ass-pull stand it doesn't make it an ass-pull
Tusk Act 4 and Ballbreaker are ass pulls and the spin itself is just a "It'll do whatever I think it must do to win" power.
Most attacks on a stand affect the user to some degree. I don't understand how Kenshiro would be able to beat the ability of time stopping/some of the most bullshit "Nuh uh that doesn't effect me" that exists.
Why do you think Kenshiro wouldn't be able to survive star platinum's attacks even if time was stopped?
He can see or at the very least sense Star Platinums location and musou tensei is like ultra instinct on steroids so star platinum isn’t fast enough to hit intangibility like the fucking Flash can. Me shirt is a lot faster than Jotaro himself and literally kills him with one touch so yeah
Only Stands can attack Stands
ECHOES evolved as Koichi's personality developed, it wasn't really an asspull, specially when ECHOES 3 got btfo by Killer Queen.
If he could see star platinum he could effortlessly dodge it with muso tenseii. You jojofags who have never seen fist of the north star need to get out.
>non stand user won vs stand
really
>Stop time at beginning of match
>Punch Kenny's brains in
How is this even a debate?
I love Ken but he would get donutted in stopped time when he got close. Time Stop is complete bullshit pretty much all the time, it just is. Almost always need another time stopper to beat them.
so how many people forget about the limitations jotaro has with using timestop? timestop takes an huge toll on your body every time you use it, DIO could work around this due to his super vampire body ability's, but Jotaro after part 3 actually became alot less durable due time stop putting strain on himself, its nearly what gets him killed in the rat fight too, i know stand stats are pretty wonky, but compare part 3 jotaro to part 4 or 6 jotaro and you'll see his endurance dropped from an A to an fuckin E, from the highest to the lowest.
i also see people forgetting that as soon as kenshiro touches someone, with the intent to kill them, they are pretty much dead barring special examples, literally a poke of death is enough.
i could say the same for not seeing how jotaro would be able to get past musuo tensei, or being able to close the gap between himself and kenshiro when kenshiro has access to projectal spam, and jotaro has never had a reliable far range projectal, the closest he has is star finger, which yet again is only around mid range at best.
I'm surprised that this non-vidya thread isn't already dead
That actually doesn't matter because only another stand can touch a stand.
Ken is stronger, but SP would have blitzed him in speed and block every single attack.
Iat best, it would have been an stalemate.
And well, i dont wanna get into Superman vs Goku, but Post Crisis Supes is at Solar System Level and N52 is at Large Star Level.
Buu Saga SSJ3 Goku could fight Buu who could destroy galaxies in a couple of years, Multi Solar System Level and GT Goku dedtroyed a dimension, and SS4 Goku could beat someone who could have destroyed the Universe in a couple of years, Multi Galaxy Level.
And SSG onwards is Universal.
All Gokus still lose to Tought Robot and Strange Visitor Supes tho.
I know right?
Exept...Star Platinum is blocking or deflecting the attacks, it would be litetallt chance if Ken touches a pressure point on SP's hand.
Remember.
Star Platinum is FASTER THAN LIGHT.
While compared to Ken's Hypersonic or maybe even relativistic speeds, its literally nothing.
Star Platinum could run circles around Ken before a single punch even comes close to Jojo.
Then how come people after the Raoh fight could hit Ken? He doesn't have it up all the time.
Doesn’t matter how fast he hits if he literally can’t touch him
Kenshiro literally can't see Star Platinum though, this is no contest.
If Star platinum can hit matter doesn't that mean he his constantly displacing air when he punches? Why couldn't Kenshiro be able to dodge Star Platinum with musou tensei even if he couldn't see him?
>he'd rather the MC inexplicably have the villains powers by the end than actual build up that takes the whole series.
this is DBS tier writing, the absolute state of Jotaro fans...
Ken is stupidly SLOWER than Star Platinum.
He could atatatata, but Star Platinum, even if weaker, could still dodge with upmost ease.
SP is FASTER THAN LIGHT, while Ken is just Hypersonic.
Ken would never, ever be able to touch Jojo, but Jojo couldnt damage Ken without Over Heaven.
>Stoic = Edgy
How is Jotaro edgy you fucking retard
>tfw star finger could have defeated Pucci
>SP is FASTER THAN LIGHT, while Ken is just Hypersonic.
Where do people even get this shit from
NAYSAYERS BTFO!
Because Star Platinum punches at the speed of light and is strong enough to crush giant boulder sized diamonds in seconds.
Yeah, but Ken wouldnt be able to touch Jojo either.
He is just too slow.
Star Platinum fought evenly with Silver Chariot, who could tag Hanged who is literally light, and SC's profile also says its faster than light.
Ken might be Hypersonic at most by dodging Lightning and Raoh's ground to clouds punches.
With Musou Tensei Star Platnium is a fat meme, Musou Tensei is about controlling spirits of warriors, Stands are just spirits.