Why is FF7 so overrated? Xenogears is way better

Why is FF7 so overrated? Xenogears is way better.

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FF7 doesn't stop being a game after the first 1/4

3 discs > 2 discs

One is a finished game.

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fpbp

I mean sure, when they finish it it will be.

FF7 is brainlet friendly

You are AIDS friendly

exhibit A

FFVII is more of a game rather than a VN like Xenogears.

babbys first final fantasy
pretty heavy marketing at the time
nu-gamers trying to fit in with nostalgia fags

Xenogears has Based Miang so it gets the win in my book.

In fact, the Xenogears villains are better than the FFVII ones in general. Miang, Krelian, Grahf, Id, Ramsus, Emperor Cain, etc. are way better than Sephiroth, Jenova, Rufus, and the like. I guess the Turks were pretty cool though.

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xenogears has better villains than final fantasy period, the only halfway decent FF villain is gaius

I never played FF until I was 17, although I played Secret of Mana growing up, and its still one of my favorite games.

I started with 8, because I saw the Dollet invasion when I swung by a friend's house in middle school, and thought it looked cool. Wound up liking it. Then I played X. It was ok. Not great. I thought both 7 and 9 were worse, though. 6 was the best, even though I played it last.

Yeah until you reach disc 2
>muh unique storytelling
I literally dropped that game hard when I knew most of the gameplay was just behind a wall of texts.

I started with 8 and played 7 years later, and it's still one of my favourites along with 6 and 9, so you're wrong

Weirdly, Xenogears turns to shit as soon as you get the mecha. The on-foot battles are way more fun and interesting.

FFIX is my personal favorite FF. It has the best FF couple by far, the best villain, and probably the best supporting cast. FFVI is a close second.

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9 is the absolute worst one I've ever played. I literally got all the way outside of Trance Kuja's boss battle, saved, quit, and couldn't be assed to pick it back up. Wound up accidentally deleting the save file some time during the PS3's gen, and didn't even care.

I kept thinking I'd finally get a bee in my bonnet to finish the piece of shit, but I just didn't care. And I fucking finished Lagoon for the SNES. I fucking beat Drakengard 2 THREE TIMES to get Ending C. I literally bothered to get all the endings of Drakengard 1, and platinumed NieR. I can take a lot of boring shit, but I just couldn't bring myself to care about IX. If I needed to make space on my book shelf, that would be the first game I'd throw away.

ff9 is better anyway

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Just like Xenoblade X

You have horrible taste.

>3 discs > 1.5 discs
FTFY

t. proof that 7/8 brainlets are fucking insufferable

Shiiiiit, FF7 is actually pretty well written compared to the new FFs. Until it gets into SOLDIER and Shinra at least.

So it's 100% due to budget. Good to know.

I'm not sure how you would qualify me as either of those, as I said 6 was the best.

JRPGs are so

fucking

boring


git gud

FF7 is a good game.
Xenogears is a wild ride.

Personally, Xenogears is the only game I would ever recommend by it's story alone, the gameplay itself is not even good.

I like the combat in Xenogears, both on foot and in gears. I agree with most anons that it's annoying as fuck that there's barely any gameplay after a certain point in the game.

It's still definitely worth playing though.

> the gameplay itself is not even good.
That's just 90s JRPG, they're all terrible.

No jrpg has good gameplay, if you go into a jrpg for anything BUT the story, you're autistic.

Final Fantasy has infinite development and marketing dollars, which means it's the only jrpg franchise casuals know (pokemon aside). Anyone who actually likes jrpgs knows FF is nothing to write home about.

you got that mixed up, jrpgs tend to have fun gameplay but retarded stories. Xenogears is an exception

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SaGa games have really good gameplay.
Chrono Trigger has pretty cool gameplay until you get Luminiare and the OP triple techs.
If you're not a power leveling faggot, FF3, 4, 5 and 7 have good gameplay.
Other stuff that never got an official western release is also really good gameplay wise.
The only constant in 90s JRPGs turn based gameplay is that is somewhat slow but it's nothing compared with the original JRPGs, FF1 and DQ1. Even other contemporaries are way faster like Sweet Home and Mother 1.
I never said it wasn't worth it, I said the gameplay itself is not the good part of Xenogears. I only remember like 4 or 5 battles being good which is a shame, after Elly, Citan and Bart, all party characters offer some pretty cool combat gimmicks but never get properly used, also some of them require grinding.

It isnt but xenogears is shit gameplay combined with shit story halfway stolen from angsty animu robot crap.

Xenogears if for brainlets that dont get they are brainlets, basically it makes idiots think they are smart or at least philosophers.
Its try hard the game, angst the game, silly teenager fanfic the game, shitty pretentious animu shit with religious symbolism for the sake of it the game. And just like nge it makes dumb people feel special and smart for making shit up to tie shit together that directors themselves !admittedly! just added to appear deep and not because it has any story connection.

lul. OP owned. fpbp

Thanks for describing FF7.

t. brainlet

ff7 is a bit easier to swallow as it's not starting at the fourth game in a 10 game franchise that never got any of the other games to tell its story.

>uses the terms try hard and pretentious
>calls others brainlets

What's hilarious is that you actually have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Xenogears is more influenced by sci-fi works like "Childhood's End" by Arthur C. Clarke, the works of Robert A. Heinlein, Isaac Asimov, and actual Gnosticism than any anime tropes.

>No doubt Childhood's End served as one of the main inspirations for Xenogears. Many have assumed that the concept of evolving mankind into a singular being was taken from Evangelion, but it was actually from Childhood's End ideas such as humanity's evolution into a vast cosmic intelligence were borrowed from. In the book, human children begin to display telekinetic powers a few generations after the alien Overlords arrive on Earth. In Xenogears, human children like Midori are displaying telepathic powers. Only 500 years before the present, humans in Xenogears began to evolve an ability called 'Ether'. The Gazel Ministry and Karellen are supervising humanity in Xenogears just as Karellen and the Overlords are supervising humanity in Childhood's End, and both Karellens take control because they know humanity will not evolve if left to their own devices.

>However, the style and themes of Takahashi are in some ways radically different from those of Clarke. Most notably is Clarke's more optimistic view of science empowering mankind's exploration of the solar system, and his images of Utopian settings with highly developed ecology, and society, which were based on Clarke's ideals. Takahashi has a much darker vision of the future, with humans continuing to force their strong wills and ideals upon the world with the consequence of being trapped in darkness, unable to see the truth of things. But where Clarke's vision of humanity often ends with them getting help to evolve to a more mature and wise existence, Takahashi's vision is that humanity remains imperfect but should be proud of that non-perfection, and allow ourselves to love what is without ideologies or judgments.

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the guy you're responding to probably doesn't even know what Gnosticism is