Are VNs games?

Are VNs games?

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No, shut up

As long as they have some sort of CYOA mechanic with endings and shit, then as far as I'm concerned, yes. If they're literally just linear and have no reaction to your input whatsoever other than you choosing text speed and when to advance, then I'd say no.

no, they are Visual novels. Books with pictures. Maybe some minor interactivity, but that just make them interactive novels, not exactly video games

They're as "game" as david cage's "game".

No

Are DVD menus games? No? Then neither are VNs.

If you consider a "good" end to be a "win" and a "bad" end to be a "loss", then yes: VNs are EXTREMELY SHITTY games

Mods confirmed many times that yes, they are games and can be discussed here, no matter how much you bitch and moan
what a waste of thread

...that's a boy, isn't it user.

Sup Forums BTFO

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Pure Visual Novels like Umineko are not games. But VNs with gameplay mechanics like Phoenix Wright and Danganronpa are games.

The reason they're called VNs is because they arn't games.

yes obviously

Yes they are games, moot agreed, don't bother him about it.

Yes, but only if they have a happy ending. A "winning state", if you will.

If it's executed computer code and it's supposed to be entertaining, it's a game. But did you know you could just jerk off or play some games instead of making threads another thread like this?

so they're games.

Why wouldn't they be games you turbogay

>If it's executed computer code and it's supposed to be entertaining, it's a game

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I feel like video games require some sort of rng element, VNs don't have that.

What's your favourite game? Mine is Windows Media Player.

So tightly balanced competitive games like fighting games aren't games?

No it isn't, you troglodyte, thats Chihiro from TWGOK

Nice

Mine is game maker studio, it's from steam so that also makes it a game

For me, it's photo viewer.

Wrong, that's Keima crossdressing as Chihiro

It depends. Some games are labeled as VNs like Danganronpa because they have a visual novel presentation despite not really being visual novels.

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This.

Yeah, especially now, that they are less linear than last gen videogames.

Those have a rng element, it’s caused by the players/computers

i wish someone translate Madou Koukaku
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its allowed on twitch a gaming website so yes

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Yeah

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You have a point but you shouldn't use the term rng that loosely.

>implying VNs dont have RNG
yeah, not resisting cumming killing a girl totally isnt RNG

I guess eating is videogames too?

This. Visual novels are games, kinetic novels aren't.

Shit taste, MPCHC all the way.

Nekopara was a mistake.

jesus christ how is michiru such a fucking cute girl

Umineko never called itself a VN, though, it's a "sound novel".

If there's any player influence for the ending it's a game. Same reason point-and-click and walking simulators are games too.

It can be.

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I don't even know. She's so fucking great.

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Yes, however kinetic novels aren't.

she gon get RAPED

as david cage's "game"

>tfw no sex scene with her other self awakened that tells juicy yuuji exactly what she wants which makes mitchuru blush as she is ashamed of her desires
>not a bunch of scenes where her other self constantly undermines her tsundere act
maybe I should play the sequels

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I think the first one happens in Labyrinth, but it's been like a year since I've read it. Pic related.

They kind of downplay the other self stuff in the sequels, which is kind of strange, but I can see why they do.

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See Play Labyrinth's after story for her. You literally get a threesome with both of them having control at the same time. It's a literal mind fuck.

Also glad to see Sup Forums has some fucking good taste once in a while too.

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In the last one they literally say she was just making it all up, which was just really poorly done.

>You literally get a threesome with both of them having control at the same time. It's a literal mind fuck.
ow fuck, ow god, sweet jesus. Evacuate the children, this isnt going to the pretty

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Her route was so strangely paced. They could have done a lot of interesting things with the different personalities but I feel like they completely squandered it. I still have to play the sequels though. Hopefully they make up for it.

No they didn't. Her resolved mental trauma along with Yuji's stabilizing presence caused her Dissociative Identity Disorder to simply become less prevalent. The only time she shows up is when she lacks the courage to do something, etc. Nothing really poorly done about it.

It's a scene for the goddam ages, seriously.

Eh, it was less about having another personality as it was having the trauma that caused her to gain one. The after story of Labyrinth uses the personality a lot, so they do give you a payoff with it in a big BIG way. It's gone for the most part in Eden except a few times, but that's mostly because she's suppose to be cured of her trauma by then.

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First sequel does, second one absolutely dumpsters it.

>choker
fuckfuckfuck. Mitchuru, have mercy

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Get outta here shark!

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I didn't realize until her 3p with Makina that Sachi so short.

FUCK I meant in the afterstory of Eden.

Kegel exercises you dumb casual

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I find it funny how Sup Forums calls any game with cutscenes a "movie" yet they're always trying to defend visual novels, which have no gameplay whatsoever. Anime girls really do something to a person's brain.

Short answer: No
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooo

has Sup Forums been a videogame this whole time?

>tfw when worst girl won
It still hurts. Katsuragi should have been with Ayumi REEEEE

Sup Forums is not a hivemind.

>tfw no cute adult underwear maid to eat

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Everything after the first ending of Mitcher's route was trash.

I dont know the first ending but I do know her afterstory where her other self speaks up that she doesnt like marathons and wants to have more fun dates was cute

Are mayonnaise a video game?

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Yes.
Prove me wrong.

>there are people on Sup Forums RIGHT NOW who haven't chosen the hermit crab ending for giggles at least once

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Persona is considered a game so yes.

(and of course chosen Miyako -- the true end -- after that)

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keep your numale trash in your containment boards

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Fuck off loser

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You look pathetic as a fat degenerate faggot you loser cuck

You're a cool guy who uses Sup Forums anonymously.

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