Why Goku? Why have the millenial autists latched on to this particular anime character to shill for Smash?
People cite that he has been in many video games, but so has Mickey Mouse, Shrek, Spongebob, basically anyone. What makes Goku so special as to break the fundamental idea of Smash Bros and start introducing cartoon characters to the roster? Is Dragon Ball even particularly important to it's own medium?
Some people say Namco owns the videogame licence for Dragonball, so why not. WHY NOT? Square Enix owns the videogame license for Marvel, but Nintendo chose to put Cloud in over Iron Man. You know why? BECAUSE HE'S VIDEO GAMES. I don't care how many licensed pieces of shit vidya that cunt has been in, he does not come from or define video games, and never will.
Yeah, putting Goku in would cause a shitstorm. So would putting in Harry Potter. Not gonna happen, retards.
Who the fuck wants to start seeing cartoon/TV characters in Smash?
Dragonball z is a more popular video game than it is an anime. At least to Western audiences.
Gabriel Carter
Goku in smash is a fucking miiverse meme
Parker Ortiz
I want to see that shitstorm happen, I want to see a character trailer where right at the end Goku's silhouette appears Cha-la Head Cha-la starts playing and then the internet is engulfed in flames.
Jackson Bennett
[citation needed]
Bentley Morris
They'll use the american DBZ theme and you will love it.
Isaac Evans
>What makes Goku so special as to break the fundamental idea of Smash Bros and start introducing cartoon characters to the roster? Let us not forget that the fundamental idea of Smash Bros wasn't "video game all-stars", it was "NINTENDO all-stars", so the fundamental idea was already broken in Brawl and then pushed to the limit by characters like Cloud who have no fucking relation to Nintendo whatsoever. Sakurai didn't want to put Mii's in Brawl because he felt like they didn't fit the spirit of Smash, but then he said "fuck it" and put those shitty things in Smash 4 anyway. Oh yeah, and are we just going to ignore that doctor fucking Kawashima is an Assist Trophy? He's not a Nintendo character, he's a real-life neuroscientist, it doesn't matter if he's polygonal or not.
Basically, Sakurai isn't exactly known for following his own "rules". You're getting Laboman, Nintendog, Sans and Goku and you'll pay 60+ bucks for the privilege.
Nicholas Miller
>mfw he becomes exclusive only for the US/Asian market and excluded in Latin America for going against Toei's demands
>Sakurai didn't want to put Mii's in Brawl because he felt like they didn't fit the spirit of Smash He did want to put them in Brawl but didn't have time or an idea of how to use them back then.
Leo Diaz
Dude, goku in smash has been a meme since fucking gamefaqs when melee was announced
Cooper Brooks
>Western audiences
Who cares? Smash is Japanese.
Lucas Lewis
And when has Sakurai ever cared about what western audiences think?
Kevin Reyes
dragonball is rad
Ayden Jenkins
smash bros is all about power level goku is japanese superman
what is there not to get?
Isaiah Martin
Everyone knows Son Goku, everyone watched his show when they were young.
Also why not?
Bentley Rogers
Now that I think about it a lot, Goku would actually be pretty cool to play as.
Brayden Williams
>Incorporating Miis was explored in the previous game, Super Smash Bros. Brawl, but I thought it over for about a minute and immediately decided against it The quote from the man himself. Although even without the Mii part my point still stands - Sakurai's a fucking retard and will break his "rules" whenever he feels like it.
Ayden Thompson
I don't want Goku but you can't just dismiss the Western audience entirely, it's a big market. While clearly Nintendo is willing to put in characters specifically for the Japanese like Fire Emblem stuff when the West didn't give a shit about Fire Emblem, the west is still a significant market to sell to.
Thomas Torres
And he's still not going to start putting anime characters in Smash.
Robert Bennett
Everyone knows Mickey Mouse, why not him?
Joshua Richardson
>Square Enix owns the videogame license for Marvel What?
I don't think he will either but the people considering it as a complete 0% chance instead of 0.001 seriously haven't been with the Smash series for long enough. If you told a Meleefag in 2003 that Solid Snake was going to be in the next game they'd tell you to fuck off.
Ian Evans
For what? When they aired the Jiren and Goku fight live?
Asher Price
Gokufags cannot refute the following statement:
Goku did not originate in a video game.
Thomas Flores
I'm not even asking why Sakurai would put him in.
I'm asking why people even want him? Is it just because a lot of millenials used to watch the anime in the morning before school? Because that's a retarded reason
Blake Perry
>While clearly Nintendo is willing to put in characters specifically for the Japanese like Fire Emblem stuff when the West didn't give a shit about Fire Emblem
It's almost like Nintendo is a Japanese company or something
Jason James
Dragonball is a very old and popular anime Dragonball and Smash have a lot of crossover when it comes to fanbases. Fighterz is by far the most popular fighter I've seen within the Smash community.
I'm not sure how many of those people actually like Goku, to be honest. But if DB is going to be represented he's the obvious choice.
Cooper Ross
DB characters play very good in 2D fighters, specially one with fast paced movement, lot of space and free usage of abilities like smash, I'd actually pay a shitload of money for a DB game with the Smash engine. Goku could be a super fun character to play as. Aren't you the one who's counter shilling saying rejecting a character that could be potentially very fun because you don't like the show?
Luis Torres
We have Lucario, he's basically Goku with more hair.
Levi Robinson
no one gives a shit about Funimation. Especially now.
Aaron White
>Sakurai >giving a shit what some gaijin whitu piggu wants
Brayden Myers
Up B: Instant Transmission or Nimbus
Side B: power pole or Dragon Fist
Normal B: Kamehameha
Down B: Not too sure. Maybe Kaioken that augments his other attacks?
Final Smash: Would say super saiyan but Sonic's dumbass will be in. Maybe Spirit Bomb?
Because DBZ is fucking HYPE! Something that Smash needs after Brawl and 4 took it all away
Also there are many people who played the DBZ games without watching the anime because they were everywhere during the PS2 era. Some might forget that there are 9 (!) DBZ PS2 games
It has nothing to do with liking the show or not. The point is Smash is for video game characters and Goku is ANIME. Can you shonen faggots get that through your thick skulls?
Jayden Sullivan
>What makes Goku so special as to break the fundamental idea of Smash Bros and start introducing cartoon characters to the roster? Is Dragon Ball even particularly important to it's own medium? Son Goku is fundamentally about fighting Mickey Mouse, Shrek, Spongebob are not
Cameron Phillips
You are a millennial
Blake Morgan
Villager
Oliver Morales
>I'm asking why people even want him? Because they like both Smash Bros. and Dragon Ball? Seems obvious to me
Kid Goku would fit way better with smash's theme and his kit would be more original with a combination of nimbus and the staff plus Kamehameha. If they add adult Goku theyll be forced to add ssj blue and transformations which would suck. Just imagine both kids and adults Goku as smash, which one makes more sense to you?
Adrian Nelson
I gave you a reason for why Son Goku is particularly relevant to a fighting game even if he is not a video game character originally and you respond with a video game character who is not about fighting.
What's your point?
Xavier Morris
Here's proof that Goku isn't as big as people here think
There are at least 50 vidya characters with more selling power than Goku
Google how much the Dragon ball IP makes overall and post that shit again.
William Gutierrez
Super Saiyan could be a ground-based counterpart to Super Sonic.
Goku just runs around smacking motherfuckers out of the way.
Camden Johnson
I don't like shounen and I don't even like DB other than nostalgia. Doesn't stop me from thinking Goku could be a very fun character in smash. DB has a long enough history of videogames throughout every single platform to justify it's appearance. And anyway who the fuck cares as long as the character is fun, why are you so obsessed.
Luke Myers
>DBZ >Not vidya Are you actually gay or just pretending.
dragon ball influenced not only manga but games as well. so many games borrow cues from dragon ball, especially z. energy blasts, spiked hair, goofy protagonists. not that dragon ball invented this, but you see it play out in a way that’s reminiscent of dragon ball over and over again. the show itself feels like a video game in a lot of ways. fighterz was real popular, xenoverse too. yeah it’s kind of a long shot, but it feels possible lately. i think it would be hilarious to open the trailer like a chrono trigger teaser and have goku appear instead.
Cloud is in Smash. He signifies the death of 3rd party support on Nintendo consoles and he is in Smash. Any character is fair game at this point. There are also so many characters in this game that Goku is pretty much the only one they can add that people would be surprised for AND care about.
Kayden Clark
I care because he doesn't belong you fucking autistic fuck. >DB has a long enough history of videogames So do lots of franchises, doesn't matter
Easton Ross
The biggest tell is that Namco holds the rights for DB games. I'm sure they strike a deal of some sort.
Read my post again, dimwit. I didn't say you're wrong, I said you were CLOSE to being wrong.
If Rowling hadn't turned Nintendo down, Harry Potter would be a viable addition to Smash.
Zachary Torres
Cloud is a video game character that originated in a video game
Henry Martinez
>Some might forget that there are 9 (!) DBZ PS2 games There are 35 (!) Nintendo exclusive Bomberman games. Over 50 altogether. He's the true 3rd party rep you should want.
Cloud himself is the only reason people say "video game history" as opposed to "Nintendo history". There's no reason they can't just keep expanding it. Either that or obviously what you believe Smash is isn't what Nintendo believes it is.
Adam Torres
And people who like Marvel like Star Wars, but I don't see anyone asking for Darth Vader in Avengers 3.
David Cruz
>So do lots of franchises, doesn't matter name some of those "lot" that are on the same level as DBZ
And he IS the most popular Final Fantasy character.
Plus, the whole Link/Cloud rivalry.
Michael Lewis
You're the one who seems autistic when an arbitrary entertainment media clasification is your way of deciding what belongs and what doesn't. Non Nintendo characters also didn't belong until they did, im pretty sure you also cried about that. The thing is, if DB was videogames and they added Goku and ended up being super fun to play, would you rather miss that character entirely just because he doesn't fit your definition of what belongs? Enjoy your nth Mario skin.
>Smash is about VIDEO GAME HISTORY Revisionist autism. Smash is (or rather, was) about Nintendo history, and they already went and fucked that up over a decade ago. Why are you so certain they won't do so again?
Anthony Sanders
>all about power level
A large portion of Smashs characters aren't even combatants.
Brawl removed the rule of characters not originating from a game owned by Nintendo. Why can't 5 remove the rule of characters not originating from a video game at all?
Ryan James
pokemon was initially a card game before it was a videogame and it gets in
Camden Mitchell
Google how much the Batman IP makes overall and tell me why he shouldn't get in Smash
Jeremiah Ortiz
snake was in Brawl and he originated from a movie.
Jace Cook
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all you're gonna get from this point on is reasons why they shouldn't or wouldn't. Not why they can't.
William Hall
>Madason
Dragon Quest deserves a rep. We didn't get so much as a Mii costume last time.
Dylan Sullivan
Every character in Smash has been affiliated in Nintendo in some way or is actually important to video game history like Pac-man. All Goku has is some shitty games only weebs and mexicans care about.
Noah Carter
Gokufags are more mentally ill than KRoolfags and Ridleyfags. Maybe even more than Sansfags. At least they have a video game origin. And Goku is not vidya, no matter the mental gymnastics. An anime character that gets a video game is an anime character. It is just like the tranny problem. If you are born a male, you are biologically a male, no matter what treatments and surgeries you do.
Carson Rivera
Can you show us where Sakurai said he'd never use non-Nintendo characters?
Noah Powell
Sonic was on a sega consoles. Sega doesn't make consoles anymore, hence sonic games on nintendo platforms. Sonic in smash.
Go fuck yourself.
Caleb Lewis
Then why not remove the rule that they have to be in a video game character at all? Or why not just start using real people? Donald Trump confirmed!
>And anyway who the fuck cares as long as the character is fun, why are you so obsessed. Because YOU COULD SAY THAT ABOUT ANY CHARACTER MIGHT THE FUCK AS WELL PUT BEETLEJUICE IN IT WOULD BE FUUUUUUUUN
Jacob Brown
That's a movie, not a videogame.
Take note that said videogame is entirely fanservice.
Dylan Bailey
see
Michael Smith
Because it's not like Sonic and Mario have history together.
Their rivalry totally didn't impact the industry during the nineties in any way.
