How do we make this happen?

How do we make this happen?

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I recently played xenosaga 1 & 3 and ill safely say I wouldnt spend money on them.

Theyre not that good

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I always remember these games just looking super slow, and dull looking.

as someone who bought all 3 games on their original release I completely agree, how does a main character get worst with each game

I loved bikini suit Shion. LOVED her.

By giving the main character multiple reasons to hate their lover, yet she still lusts for his D

He is responsible for
- commiting genocide on a planet
- Summoning the gnosis
- Killing Shinons family
- Allying with a faction that directly opposed Shinon before
-Nearly killing Kos-Mos
-Not dying like he pretended to

Im pretty sure I missed another reason why Shinon should hate Kevin

Why do you remaster this shit when you can remaster masterpiece named Xenogears?

>Im pretty sure I missed another reason why Shinon should hate Kevin

Here's one you missed: He's an asshole.

The second game in the Xenosaga series is proof that devs should never listen to their fans because the fans don't know what the fuck they want.

>Square remastering in a reasonable timeframe

Wasnt FFVII supposed to be episodic? wheres episode 1

It has nothing to do with fans, but more about Namco Bandai being cunts. Educate yourself a little bit young man xenogearsxenosagastudyguide.blogspot.ca/p/the-history-of-xenosaga.html

Well thats a given

what does harada has to do with this game?

Reading this makes me glad that Takahashi and Monolith are with Nintendo.

Didnt he have a breakdown with Xenoblade because he thought Nintendo would be pissed with him missing a deadline.

And they didnt really care.

Xenosaga is fucking trash dawg. Not to mention the first it's like 80% cut-scenes.

God I so much want this

The games sure have their flaws, but it's such a grand epic, you don't see that everyday

And Kajiura at the music is stellar. Mitsuda is good, but she really nailed the cutscenes

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overrated-as-fuck One Winged Angel ain't got shit against that Final Boss battle theme

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I'll always had fond memories for that trilogy. And the mech designs in 2 and 3 is top notch. Based CHOCO.

Not sure if such a re-release could see the light of day though. I bet Takahashi would want to have a say in this, even if it's just a simple HD rehaul. As such, it would be on Switch, and I doubt that's what Namco wants.

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We don't.
The only worthwhile thing in the subseries is Albedo, and even he is very underused in 2 and 3.

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Name a better villain
Pro-tip: You can't

Another retard doesnt know the difference between remaster/remake. Kys

If anything, XSIII (and II to an extent) really looks good in HD on PCSX2.

Those games aged like FFXII, it's pretty incredible. XS1 on the other hand is the most dated, it really shows

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I loved the fuck out of the Xenosaga series, even though they are very cutscene heavy (a plus in my book) and the second one is unadulterated trash.

>AAA voice actors, Albedo, Ziggy, Junior, Margulis, all fantastic performances. Fuck, even Shion and KOS-MOS were pretty good
>Excellent world building
>Game-long sidequests that gave insane rewards if you completed them properly (giant robot summons, hacker emails)
>cinematography and choreography were top notch for an RPG

That last point in particular is what does it for me. Even the first Xenoblade was very well done in this regard. Every time a cutscenes started I would get excited to see what happened next. In XC2 I was nothing but disappointed with every fucking scene. The characters stupid canned animations that they repeated in nearly every scene (nia and rex's battle stance IN EVENT SCENES, Zekes stupid hand point animation, Pyra anxiously holding her hands near her chest). Even the fight scenes between pyra and malos were completely flat. I still haven't seen anything compare to the black voyager scene in XS3 or when Fiora dies in XC. Fuck XCX and XC2 and fuck the people who think it's good.

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Those are only just 1 example from each game, but nothing from XC2 comes close to these on any level.

>Think Xenosaga is good
>Yet XCX and XC2 is bad
lol, I cant help your shit taste

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We dont, saga 1-3 arnt worth a remaster. We should try to move on to the next arc with saga 4 since takahashi is down with that

>have all 3 on PS2
I don't want a remaster, unless the series is finished properly.

>XCX
>good
right, sorry, I'll leave you to your nigger music and lack of story in a Xeno game.

XC2 was a decent game but the stupid gacha shit and the tired anime art style were let downs. Neat idea to have a pokemon-esque system for the blades, even neater to have them designed by different artists, but I feel like they spent too much money on acquiring the artists and not enough on improving more important aspects about the game

dumb cat poster

>make 3 new games
Think of Soraya Saga and Takahashi though. They couldn't take it for sure. Poor Soraya almost killed herself because of Xeno 2

I generally dont like posting Nia, but I couldnt find another Xeno reaction pic in my folder.

Mind helping a brother out with a Elma or maybe a Kos-Mos. No Shinons though

She seemed pretty into it for XC2 marketing phase

Well I mostly remember her tweeting about her Shape of Water-like character, but that's about it.

Are they going to fix the combat or will it just be a port?

You just can't complain about the shitty stances on XC2 and praise XC1. It's even worse in XC1 actually. God I hated when the where waving their hand like retards, Reyn in particular. And XB2 battle cutscenes, which are likely videos, are miles beyond what XB1 achieved.

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I'm not complaining about their actual stances in battle, I'm complaining that they used those stances in event cutscenes. Event scenes should be custom made animations, not just fucking canned shit.

You honestly thought the battle between pyra and malos in the beginning was good? Or the battle when mythra awakened? They look like they are swinging twigs at each other, they have no weight behind their motions.

2 is dogshit horrible but 1 and especially 3 is a god send. What the hell are you on about?

Gears is the best by the way

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Wow that was hard
Wilhelm did nothing wrong.

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I'm also talking about cutscenes stances (dialogue cutscenes). Though the dynamic equipment sure helped keeping things "fresh", and thus hiding the faults.

>They look like they are swinging twigs at each other, they have no weight behind their motions.
Well, I liked them. The cinematography is good. But I see where you come from with the lack of weight, I have the same complains with the Star Wars prequels.It didn't bother me that much in XC2 though.

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>3 is a godsend

I quit 3 at the cathedral 25ish hours in. I fail to see how its good. The E.S battles were goddamn boring. The battle system really isnt anything special. The whole game kinda plays like an entire movie. Monolith got better when they started to focus on gameplay

>literal incarnation of "Satan" or whatever the shit
>gets fucked in an instant at the end
Yeah he sucked ass

His dialogues were so good, even is voice actor.

I might do a trilogy run with an undub ISO though

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So with the ending of Xenoblade 2, how likely is it connected with Saga at this point considering THE FUCKING ZOHAR shows up?

The Conduit literally disappears at the end though.

Only good one is Episode 3 and all you'll be doing is not playing the 4th planned game, giving yourself blue balls. Episode 2 requires a complete and total gameplay renovation and art rework, it's core is still worth being painted over.

Episode 1 will require massive rework to retro fit Episode 3 retcons, gameplay needs to be updated so cutscene ratio will have to be axed, ES robot need to be simplified like Episode 3, I fucking hate the straight line first hours of nothing, and lastly I think Erde Kaiser shouldn't be summoned until after you clear the game once, you can steamroll it otherwise.

I love the games, I cherish my memories playing them after school, but I'm not blind enough to see they have major problems. Episode 3 could pass an HD Remaster makeover, but the other two are remake full work territory. Furthermore, some of the deaths in 3 like Jin hit me hard and I just wanna see them all in the Old Jerusalem eluded for Episode 4. Basically, you guys are miserable creatures if you don't want to see the Xenosaga series move forward.

Not that it will, I remember Bandai pushing it with the anime series, DS games, and some OVA here and there. They really did give it a shot, but we are a niche. No one at Bandai can get this series off the floor without making a strong case for money and they walk through a cracked floor of a series dying out like a sick dog. As the games improved, the sales didn't. It's sad stuff, I remember imagining Episode 4 for the PS3 back in the 2000s like Dark Cloud 3.

Nobody would want to buy 2, so there's no way in hell it's just a port. Remake or don't bother.

Unlikely since the Zohar in XS is used to connect with an higher plane of existence in which U-DO resides, while in XB it looks like a transdimensional gate. But it's not its only function since it gives Aegises the energy they need to reshape reality.

So yeah, it could very well be the very same Zohar. Who's to say the extents to its powers in Xenosaga is only limited to connect with the Upper Domain? It might be able to do more shit, like what we've seen in XB2. Heck, it's a god plot device, it can do whatever the plot needs.

Or maybe it's some kind of sub-Zohar like waht the Zohar emulators were in Xenosaga.

But on thing is sure, Takahashi sure didn't reintroduce the Zohar to us for nothing. It might have disappeared at the end, but I'm sure we'll see it again in future games.

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Release the entire trilogy uncensored. Problem solved.

This really devastates me. XS was too ambitious for its own good, but you really see how Takahashi cared about it, the improvements in Xenosaga III were tremendous. They were going in the right direction, and just when they nailed it, it got its head chopped.

It didn't deserve that

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2 was basically about him, his brother, and that boring shit Nigredo wasn't it? Or was that in 1?

>XS is a godsend
By no means is that game a godsend. It has a nice presentation and a cool ether management mechanic through transfer, but the bulk of the game is actually a chore to play.
>3 is a godsend
It's an okay game that was majorly streamlined but has a good soundtrack. From a gameplay perspective, it's even worse than the first game is some aspects. E.S. battles are the only good thing about it.

>XS2 is dogshit horrible
Direct improvement over 1, so if one is good in any sense, 2 is better.

>The whole game kinda plays like an entire movie
Nah, it plays like an Adventure game. Everything takes place in text boxes.

>play xenosaga 1
>its the first time i have been so immersed in a storyline
>read that xenosaga 2 had less cutscenes because fans complained, decied to get it when it lowers price but never do.
>read that xenosaga 3 abruptly ended the original 6-chapter planned storyline because reasons and just stop caring about the series all-together.

I sad.

>tfw you're forced to censor a scene and it turns out to be even gorier and more horrifying than the uncensored scene

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>read that xenosaga 3 abruptly ended the original 6-chapter planned storyline because reasons and just stop caring about the series all-together.
>because reasons
Because they had a year to wrap up the series, pretty much. It wasn't going to be funded past the third game.

Nintendo bought Monolith which is why we didn't see the 6 episodes the game was planned for.

They knew during development of XS3 that it was the last game though

>1
Cutscenes up the ass, terrible characters, boring as fuck "gameplay". Good OST tho (that is barely in the game itself)

It wasn't it that, the writers from Episode 1 and 2 weren't around for 3. At the very least, I know staff changes also killed the 6 part series.

but it also connects to the imaginary numbers domain in XS, a different universe

no, even if they were with Namco the series was cut to three games

What does Harada have to do with Xenosaga?

You dumb nigger it was Xenosaga 2 she tried to an hero over, not Blade. I don't blame her, I wanted to kill myself after playing 2 myself. What a piece of garbage.

Started something on Twitter, never worked. And this happened twitter.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/617890601929850880

I know that, I was saying she was cheery again for XC2. Maybe she can try her hand in development again

Dude, promised pain is top notch

>Ending of XS3 was KOS-MOS drifting into space and half her body is damaged
>If XS4 happened she would've been repaired along with a new V5 body and continue on with things that are going on with the story so far

Still even though the series ended with 3, still a disappointing ending for 3.

>2 is better

Ex fucking scuse me are you braindead or just a dumb faggot?

I've actually been replaying the entire trilogy, and if I had to rank them in order of which ones I liked most, it would probably be 3>1>2.

I wouldn't mind a remaster, though the clashing artstyles between games would be really off-putting.

>Reading this makes me glad that Takahashi and Monolith are with Nintendo.
The same Nintendo that try to cockblock XC1 western release and refused to show it on E3 to get people's attention? Stop thinking all these companies are saints

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No, I just have an opinion, having played through the series.

Hey I think anyone would take that over driving their spouce to suicide

The only people who want a remaster are people who never played the games, no one who played it actually wants this turd trilogy.

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Nigga, I've watched the whole game on YouTube. Now I want to "play" it.

KOS-MOS 2 is best KOS-MOS

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Will we see monolith's next game at e3 or is it too early?

Namco straight up said that they were not going to fund another game. Sure, there was a change in staff and whatnot, but there wouldn't have been another XS game regardless.

>I've watched the whole game on YouTube
You legit have no reason to """""play"""" it, combat system boring as fuck anyways

>6 games
What does this nigga think it is? Some trails bullshit? Nobody wants to see a ongoing story/saga dragged for that long. Bamco warned those .hack fags to cut it out when they made 4 games to tell one story

Am I the only one who just can't play these old RPGs anymore? I tried Rogue Galasxy, Star Ocean 3, .hack on PS4 but outdated mechanics just kill any enjoyment I have with these games. I still have a lot of fun memories of playing these game in my teenage years but today they are just unplayable for me.

God, you guys made me rewatch a few Kino cutscenes, and now I want to replay the trilogy again and I bet when i'm done, that's when they'll announce the HD Trilogy

Also, Xenosaga II is the Mass Effect 2 of the ME Trilogy. Think about it for a sec.

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Honestly the combat in 3 wasnt even that bad? it felt more like natural evolution of 1. 2 as with all games in a series were experimental and usually ass due to said experimental shit. Did anyone even like the break mechanic and the fact you couldnt do regular damage unless you froze the enemy in midair in 2? that shit was dumb

Seeing how generous new game + is and how it fycks up the difficulty with what it offers. The story Dlc for XC2 needs to be a standalone story not tied to progression of the main game.

My fingers are crossed that the expansion is essentially XC2X, and you work to colonize Elysium

How well does PS3 emulate this shit?

This is stupid. I'd be interested in an HD collection (European, never had a chance to play the original).
But I'm not interested in Twitter at all.
Stupid way to check for interest.

a few glitches at the title screen alongside some slowdowns here and there but passable

I just want episode 4.
Just reboot the series or something. Fucking bamco

Would only happen if monolithsoft is returned to the PlayStation family

I feel like 2 just changed and removed too many things, and padded out the game with what was just a million fetch quests. Unless you knew to do so beforehand, the quest to clear Captain Matthews' debt was the single most frustrating thing in a game that otherwise had no money anywhere in it.

All the characters felt incredibly weak except MOMO who was ludicrously powerful, the Dual Techs were a complete waste of time, combat was slow as fuck. I honestly don't know how I managed to play through it a second time.

All three of those are substantially different games. You might just not like this genre at all. Or maybe you need something more basic.
>it felt more like natural evolution of 1.
I wouldn't call it that. It removed the main elements of the first game's battle system and made it play basically like FFX with boost. There's not even an event slot anymore.

>couldn't do regular damage unless you froze the enemy in midair
That's not quite accurate, but I liked the break mechanic in 2 quite a lot.

No I am just annoyed by outdated mechanics for example I quit Rogue Galaxy after it force me to do 2 boss battles one after another without option to save and locked me at worst party member to play during second battle (that dog guy) after I lost couple of time I just quit. Not to mention there are cutscenes before battles and you can't skip them at the beginning. I don't have time for that kind of shit anymore I barely get to play 3-4 hours a day on some days I don't get to play at all like today.

>optional side quests are a sleight against the game
I mean, I would understand if they were required, but complaining about them simply being there seems petty to me. As far as characters' damage output is concerned, I honestly have no clue what you're talking about. Ziggy hits hard as fuck, and plenty of other characters can do substantial damage with some simple setups. Although yes, MOMO is a consistently useful character, unlike in the first game.

>dual techs
>complete waste of time
Some of them are actually rather helpful. Pocket Rare, Double Medica 2, group buffs, group refresh, etc. Definitely not a waste.

>combat was slow as fuck
Everyone seems to say this about 2 but not 1. 2 is substantially faster. The only times I really have long battles is either lategame or if I get ambushed, comboed, or fuck up on battle strategies. Generally speaking, one can complete a battle within minutes. Hell, in the early game, I was average 2 minutes per battle with many taking about a minute, sometimes less. Is that really that long?

Sounds like a time budget issue. I guess you need a game with more frequent save points. Lack of cutscene skipping can be a pain in the ass, though. Thankfully, most games have that circa 2003.

he'll probably just put kosmos in tekken

How well do these games play on PCSX2?

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100%'d Xeno 3 like 8 years ago on PCSX2

XS1 plays with weird lines for higher resolutions

XS3 plays near perfect

Pretty well, IIRC. Feel free to look up a compatibility list.

I can't believe just how bad Shion got after episode 1. In the first game she just seemed like a nerdy girl that tried to get along with people, but all of sudden in Episode 2 she turned into a whiny moody bitch.

And in Episode 3 she is the worst, Kos-Mos is too pure for her

>In the first game she just seemed like a nerdy girl that tried to get along with people
Nah, she was kind of a cunt in that game, too. For examples, see her interactions with Miyuki, Allen, and Jin.

>XS1 plays with weird lines for higher resolutions
Are you talking about the shadow stitches? I just recently finished XS1 and had no lines playing in 2560x1400.