Are any of the 3DS Fire Emblems actually better than the old ones?

are any of the 3DS Fire Emblems actually better than the old ones?

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Everything is better than FE2 and FE6 aside from Revelation

FE Fates: Conquest is, unless you're the kind of person who prioritizes worldbuilding over gameplay

Awakening and Birthright are basically worse versions of Sacred Stones with some QoL updates

Revelation shouldn't be played by anyone but masochists

Fire Emblem was never good. Play a better SRPG

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Conquest is. Birthright is around on the same level. Echoes is pretty much a visual novel and shouldn't even be compared.

Playing Awakening now, only a few hours in.

Do I need to permabench Frederick to have any sort of challenge? He just crushes everything in his path.

What difficulty are you playing on? The most overpowered character in Awakening is actually Robin, but Frederick is next in line in the beginning of the game.

You would need to permabench your entire army in that game for a challenge

playing FE6 and FE9 now and Roy's Rapier and Ike's Regal Blade are almost broken and I'm only at Chapter 7 in both games, what do

never played FE before btw

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Conquest can be if you're willing to actually use your brain. So no, for the most part.

Why do people hate on revelations? Serious question, I haven't played it. Conquest was pretty good, and Awakening was... well, it wasn't bad, at least.

Gaiden was absolute shit so yeah, Echoes is better.

You don't need to save them for anything really. Use them if they are helpful.

It has a lot of gimmicks that only exist to waste turns, like waiting for platforms to move or breaking ice blocks by attacking them.

Also, many recruitable units' starting stats were lazily copypasted from other routes. Nyx is recruitable as a lvl 9 Dark Mage in the same chapter Shura comes in as a lvl 10 Adventurer.

oh ok cool thanks, thought you can upgrade them or something later on

Conquest is considering it's the only good 3DS FE.

Sure. The only people who say the 3ds games are bad are bitter oldfags that don't like people posting their waifus.

most games have pref weapon for the lord to help them out early on (since it gives a bonus against cav and knights, the strongest enemies). So just wear them out (and keep steel as backup incase someone is 1 hp) to get them leveled up. By the time it breaks the lord is then strong enough to be useful with the other weapons.

well except for roy, useless piece of shit

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Actually, lowmanning is by far the easiest and most effectve way to play. Mantaining a full team is incredibly harder.

If you let Fred drain too much exp you'll get fucked in the ass later as he grows incredibly slower than the other units.

We will never get another advanced wars game due to this waifu simulator becoming so popular.

Unit balance is utterly fucked, there a way too many units with the deployement slots often being SMALLER for some dumb reason, there are a hundred gimmicks that honestly don't add much to the game, the story is pretty bad with the Hoshido family stealing the spotlight a bit too much, no penalty for grinding.

>FE
>Popular
lmao

Yeah thats called the jager archetype. High base, low growth.

This is literally wrong. Fred can basically solo the game.

I was prepared for an answer I wouldn't care about like "Muh shit story" or "2 EZ", but you successfully made me cringe at the idea of time wasting bullshit and bad balance. Based user.

How? His starting stats are pretty much just GK's base ones and he gains shit exp for like half of the game.

Don't permabench him, just don't rely on him. He can get you out of a pinch but hogs the EXP everyone else needs

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100% pure kino chapter

You may want to save about 5 uses of Ike's regal blade for a boss towards the end of the game, but I honestly wouldn't worry too much about it.
As for Roy's rapier, it's use is fairly limited anyway, especially if you train pegaus knights more than nomdas, and Dieck/Alan/Lance will be better for killing cavaliers, your mage will be better for killing armours.

damn I miss mages being useful, if FE Switch doesn't fix them someone's gonna pay

Did you not play Echoes, Delthea was an ezmode by herself, until she runs out of stamina, and you get ambushed trying to run away

Unless you're playing lunatic Frederick isn't needed. He's worthwhile throughout the entire game because he is a Oifey archetype and everyone has high growths in Awakening.

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Echoes is just a remake (and a faithful one at that) so there's no guarantee FE Switch will take anything from it.

What the fuck are you talking about. Awakening Mages are broken. And BR mages and Ophelia/Leon are good in CQ. There's also magical weapons which are stupid god-tier.

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>with the Hoshido family stealing the spotlight a bit too much aside from Hinoka
FTFY

I was talking about Fates. Aside for a limited cases mages are really bad in it.

Orochi is fucking shit, Sakura is better as a priestess than a diviner, Hayato is benched forever, and Azama is better as a physical unit.
CQ has Nyx is shit, Odin who's better physical, Leo and Elise who are good, and never used Ophelia.

>Sakura is better as a priestess than a diviner
>Azama is better as a physical unit
Well no shit, Onmyoji is not their canon promotion.

Hayato is the only bad base mage in BR. Orochi has spd issues which is fixed entirely by a pair up bot. Scrolls literally give buffs.

>Scrolls literally give buffs
fucking kek, +1 speed won't do shit if you have none to begin with

nigga +1 speed is +1 speed whether you have high speed or low speed

Even with Kaze (until he fell out of my first team) I remember her still being doubled, maybe mine was just awful luck on level ups, which is a shame because I really liked her supports with everybody but Corrin.

No? If you have 30 spd and the enemy 25 you'll double with the help of a single point of speed, otherwise you won't. Speed bonuses are only useful if they let you pass certain thresholds, Orochi is way too slow ro make use of it.

Horse spirit gives you +3 to multiple stats. And I guess you missed the pair up bot which how you're supposed to play.

Kaze has better stuff to do than being the pairup bot of fucking Orochi.

Orochi or anyone with a spd issue is not supposed to be pair up with Kaze. BR gives you a million different bots to chose from.

Like exploring the bottom of a cliff

nice one

A fully levelled Onmyoji Orochi will have like 18 speed, she really is that slow.

I unironically enjoyed Echoes. Some of the desert levels are annoying early game but the rest was entertaining

The voice acting and music were god tier. Why does a rando FE game get such god attention but Nintendo's AAA games get half assed attempts?

Because B team actually likes Fire Emblem

Because apparently the only reason Echoes was even made in the first place was that some guys at IS were huge Gaidenfags.

ISIS isn't Nintendo.

B team?

>A Team working on FE Switch

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He's retarded there is no B-team. About the same staff from Awakening and Fates worked on Echoes. Only difference was directors, Maeda and Yokota were working on Heroes and mostly likely FE switch so Kusakihara and Nakanishi took the reins.

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>work on heroes
>try to force fatesawakening down everyone's throats
>get BTFO in CYL 1 and 2

I hope they see the error of their ways

>Not JA2

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Kaze is fucking great.

>boss blasts Kaze with Ragnarok
>5 damage

Because 0 effort went into the gameplay, all the focus was on making the game look pretty.

I want to rip tana of her pegasus and fuck her silly.

also her support with ephriam was pretty mediocre

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Sakura is better as an onmyoji though, priestess Sakura basically needs 2 arms scrolls dumped on her to be a decent unit whereas onmyoji can use her solid magic stat from the start. Also the most important tome (horse spirit) is available at D rank making it much easier to obtain. Azama is better as a physical class though

How can Garon's boytoy and Lobsterman even compete?

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no need to spend effort on gameplay when ur just porting it from a 20 year old game even though it was widely regarded as terrible

Echoesfags are the fucking worst. At least Awakeningfags have the excuse of being new as shit. Echoesfags are either newshitters or bitter grandpas praising this shitshow just because it's old

>Always prefered the Sully and Maribelle supports for Chrom
>Both of them apparentley give shit stats to Lucina

So which Awakening parings make the best child units?

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I can't believe somebody thought Fire Emblem: Awakening of Fates was a good idea. It made DQ heroes and Hyrule Warriors look good.

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Chrom with Sumia or Olivia.
Stahl with Cordelia.
Lissa with Ricken or Henry.

I forget the rest.

They get OP prfs.

>not playing with your fav characters and pairings

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Only because Fire Emblem fans actually play more games. Hyrule Warriors did the same thing, 3-game representation. If HW had a diverse roster, people would bitch endlessly about "muh OoT" and "muh TP" if Minish Cap or the Oracle games got attention.

>b-but muh story
gotta love how grandpas shit on Awakening's map design/gameplay but then downplay SoV's poor gameplay/map design

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Yeah, I really hope the Prfs get nerfed. Fates and Echoes had ludicrous Prfs.

Honestly buffing Alm's sword made no sense when literally everything from Gaiden was nerfed into the ground.

Just wait for the eventual Thracia remake. As a side point most the echoes and Fates prfs would be balanced if durability was a thing

I hated Hyrule Warriors but in its defense there aren't as many games and especially characters to choose from as compared to FE. FE has no excuses for how shitty it's roster is. Where are the axe users? Where is the GBA FE representation? What about the older titles? Why does everyone use swords and worst of all there are way to many clones.

Hyrule Warriors was honestly just as bad. 4 out of like 17 games get all the focus while over half the series doesn't get a rep.

I agree that FEW's roster is garbage though. Dissidia had the right idea, start with the protagonist from each game and slowly add more.

Oh man, I really want Zigludo's Jihad remade sometime for based incest rape breeding and goofy shit like Forseti.

I'm so fucking sick of Fates and Echoes discussion. When will there be a FE Switch trailer. Please just have lots of mechanical and story depth.

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this I swear they cant wait till E3

>FE
>story depth
not gonna happen i can tell you that right now
i can see the mechanical depth tho

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Echoes had some good ideas though. I wouldn't mind if they took some parts of it for inspiration for the next game.

The difference is that Echoes is ____fun____

>worse gameplay than Awakening
>fun

Whatever you say, user.

if shitty gameplay is fun to you user then more power to you i guess

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The gameplay was fine. There were a few unfortunate maps but it was better then open fields of nothing

I dont like arguing with Fateswakeningfags but they dont even see the problems

>pair up
>infinite reclassing
>bloated enemy health
>5 skills
>time travelling children

Awakening was a shit FE game

Fire Emblem isn't a SRPG. It's TRPG.

The gooks call them Simulation RPGs

You'll take Wargroove and you'll like it, faggot.

Echoes is empty plains of nothing.

>The gameplay was fine.

>Those maps with invokers that never stop spamming their shitty underlings
>The only reliable way of getting to them is using flying units
>The invoker is surrounded by Archers and snipers
FUCK ECHOES! It started to become a huge drag towards the end.

Don't forget Galeforce.

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You know that not all archers had the flying killer skill, right? Shit was easy

>The gameplay was fine

It was shallow and simplistic and in Kaga's own words "I was disappointed at the lack of complexity and strategy in Gaiden"

X-Com isn't a Simulation RPG, though.

lack of self awareness stunning

yes fire emblem was always shit and it literally took waifus getting added to stop the series from getting cancelled, I can guarantee you that if the next game doesn't have the marriage and children system sales will start going back down again

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>Spoiler
Well it's not like Eph is going to anybody but Lady Lel.

I thought Sully gave Lucina good stats but no GF

The game doesn't even force you to abuse those mechanics. There is literally no reason to go level 20/20/20/20/20/20 when the final battle is designed for you to be level 20/15.

Meanwhile, Echoes forces it's shit mechanics on you.

>forces shit mechanics
like?

No it doesn't