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>dreams
>realistic expectations
>fears
about the game ?

What third-party characters do you want in the game ? What is your ideal roster ?

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Sans

Realistically, what are Phoenix's chances of getting in?

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Low I'd guess. Capcom already has two characters and if they wanted more there are probably others that are higher priority for them.

>Dillon
>Paper Mario
>Dixie+Funky tag team
>Wonder Red
>Buzzwole, or somebody that isn’t a starter
>Camilla or just an Axe user in general
>Pig monster Ganon
>Any unique fun characters really
>Dark Pit retooled
>Any third party would be cool but personally want Banjo-Kazooie

>dreams
>Ramirez

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Even if Undertale gets represented, it won’t be by that lazy shit

Most of the characters fighting go against the point of the entire game

I feel Undertale WILL get represented, but not nessesarily with a playable character

Characters I want for Switch 5mash are:
>pic related
>asura
>dante
>cloud

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Everyone seems to forget that every Smash has at least one retro character after 64.
>Game and Watch
>R.O.B.
>Duck Hunt
Who would be 5's?

If they really wanted a playable one Frisk is the obvious choice. He has a bunch of different "weapons" to choose from which he has to use at some point regardless of playthrough style because of Asgore. I wouldn't really want an Undertale rep but if they were to do one Frisk is the only one that really makes sense, or at least he makes way more sense than fucking Sans.

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Who else is only buying a Switch for 5mash?

Excitebike

Well there's two types of retro characters. There's the hardware based ones which you mentioned and then there's the old game protagonists like Ice Climbers, Pit and Little Mac. The former is hard to say. Something representing the Virtual Boy seems like an obvious choice for old hardware that's not represented in Smash yet but it was a big failure so who knows? Though if they did go for that then Teleroboxer would be the perfect game to pull a character from. As for the game characters I would guess some of the ones that were assist trophies last time like Takamaru, Prince Sable or Excitebike would be obvious picks. Mach Rider is another possibility.

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wait no
know what i meant
hardware and retro are two seperate since melee
>Ice Climbers and G&W
>Pit and R.O.B.
>Little Mac and Duck Hunt/Duck Hunt and Mii Fighter
Who will it be for 5?

>Retro
Mach Rider
>Hardware
Teleroboxer

>dreams
Obviously, as pic related shows, I would love to see Louie (not as a clone, but riding a dweevil), Marx, Fawful, Deoxys and Buzzwole. If I had to go from most wanted (1) to not as badly wanted (4), I'd go:
5.) Buzzwole
4.) Deoxys
3.) Fawful
2.) Louie
1.) Marx
Also I'd love to see something more along the lines of the Subspace Emissary again, cutscenes and all

>realistic expectations
No SSE, probably just an adventure mode ala Melee with only the usual series (mario, zelda,etc) being represented.
Gameplay is similar or the same as smash 4.
Lots of fan favorites becoming assist trophies instead of being playable
Focus more on the third parties than the actual nintendo characters, just like Smash 4.

>fears
Same as expectations really, with a few extras. I don't have very high hopes.
Only the boring unimaginative characters like Bandana dee, Decidueye or Captain Toad get in instead of more interesting characters like Fawful or even fucking Nabbit.

>third parties
Honestly, the only one I can think of would be DOOMguy. And that's only because I just tecently played DOOM, and even that's starting to wear off... so honeslty, I don't want ANY new third parties.

>what is your ideal roster?
Honeslty, anything that includes pic related and doesn't have shitty meme characters like Sans or fucking Goku in it. Hell, I wouldn't even mind Ridley being playable.

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>dreams
A way to turn off stage hazards
Sped up gameplay
Octopath traveler character, different skins being different final smashes according to their path actions

>realistic expectations
Average shit, a couple new 3rd parties and stages

We should have a playable cardboard box to represent Labo! This box would work well...

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Not really a roster thing, but I kinda want a tradeup from the more sterile menus we've had. This is the biggest moment for a lot of Nintendo franchises. I'd love to see characters represented in other ways than just "playable character, assist trophy, stage, collectible thing with trivia." I'd love to see shopkeeper characters like the crazy cap people from Super Mario Odyssey, Tom Nook or Anna showing up when it's time to spend smash coins on trophies or whatever. Or when it comes to gambling, rather than just pachinko or pinball, you have Nintendoland/Warioware kind of stuff, mini microgames based off the home series.
I don't want it to go full Mario Party guest starring Bayonetta from the Bayonetta series but make it feel more like a Nintendo crossover outside of the gameplay.

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let me see your final smash

okay, we need to go over what every smash game has as new characters
>Mario character
>Pokemon character
>Hardware character
>Retro character
>Third party character
>A franchise with only one or two characters gets at least two more
characters (Zelda in Melee, Kirby in Brawl, Fire Emblem and Kid Icarus in 4)
This gives us a number of opportunities for
Mario Characters
>Paper Mario
>Waluigi
>Toad
Pokemon Characters
>Sceptile
>Decidueye
>Mimikyu
Retro Character
>Excitebiker
>Mach Rider
>Takamaru
Hardware
>Labo
>Teleboxer
Third Party Character
>Doomguy
>Sans
>Crash Bandicoot
Franchise with not that many characters (second ones are NEVER EVER)
>Donkey Kong (Cranky Kong and K. Rool)
>Metroid (Weavel/Sylux and Ridley)
>MOTHER (Ninten and Claus)

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Keep in mind they also tend to pull heavily from the games of the previous gen. We've already seen the Inklings and BotW Link (who was announced for the last gen) and we can probably expect a few more.

Which game had the better Nintendo-newcomer batch?

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>Only the boring unimaginative characters like Bandana dee, Decidueye or Captain Toad
Says the guy that wants fucking Louie outside of an alt

>dreams

Wolf, Lucas, belmonts, doom slayer, competitive online, Gameplay to be a mix of brawl and melee without a gay mechanic like tripping

>realistic expectations

It's just like tr4sh and the series stays dead to me. More retarded 1hko moves like little macs.

>fears

I don't really care that much any more so it's whatever. I only bought a Wii for brawl and haven't bought a Nintendo product since. If this smash is good I'll buy in but I doubt it will be.

When will they remove this bullshit?

It's not even a pac-man reference.

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>dreams
Preservation of momentum in jumps and multi-directional one-time air dodges
Stages that aren't retarded (or an Alpha mode that turns every stage into a Battlefield clone)
More Donkey Kong stuff (K.Rool, Dixie, Cranky, a half-decent stage, music that isn't Jungle Hijinks, or whatever, I just want more DK)
>realistic expectations
A "sequel" in the same vein as Splatoon 2, in the sense that it's mechanically identical to Smash 4 with new characters, stages and a mode or two (hopefully a good Adventure Mode successor)
>fears
It's a straight port of Smash 4 with Inklings and nothing else.

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i think it's something from pac and pal/super pac man

Simon Belmont
Brawl, obviously. Look at that diverse roster of superstars compared to all the fucking anime characters below.

Brawl sucked dick, but the newcomers blow Smash 4 out of the water.

Sneed

Brawl by a landslide. It got the characters that were actually important and smash 4 was bottom of the barrel choices other than mega man and Pacman and villager

It's the beam that the ship uses to grab your character in Galaga.
I don't see a problem with it since Pac-Man draws from other classic Namco franchises in other ways. Mechanically it's probably the worst grab in the game, though.

>expectations/fears
That single player in this game will make single player in Sm4sh look good in comparison. That every map will be too extravagant with random shit so that you resort to playing the same beta map over and over. That they'll take away stock matches and not allow you to turn off items anymore since Sakurai is tired of people playing his game for more than 5 minutes at a time and expecting to win against their friends.

My only fear is that we’ll have cuts on Smash 4’s near perfect roster. If literally anyone (besides the clones) are cut I’ll be hurting, especially if one of the 3rd parties we got are cut.

>fears
none really
I actually have high expectations that this game will be just as good as sm4sh and better.
at worst it will be practically the same game.
either way the bump in smash popularity will help keeping my main game alive.

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some number of third parties are nearly guaranteed to go, Bayonetta Cloud and Ryu especially.

>dreams
Goku.

>realistic expectations
Rex and Pyra.

>fears
No story mode.

Less fire emblem characters. and new reps from the series.

>Hector
>Chrom
>Lyn
>Erika

Megaman X instead of Megaman.

I want eevee and I want all it's evolutions to be alt skin (like bowser jr but only with very unique movesets.)

I know it's impossible, but I can dream

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I'd unashamedly lose my mind at Castlevania getting some representation.

>Dreams
Momentum from a running jump, Bomberman being a playable character.
>Realistic expectations
Roster mostly being unchanged other than newcomers from recent games being added
>Fears
Undertale rep, Anime rep, and really dominant characters

>Bayonetta
Being cut.
>Ryu being cut but not Mega Man
If Mega Man comes back why wouldn’t Ryu? If Ryu isn’t coming back then Mega Man probably isn’t either
>Cloud
This is the only one you listed that makes sense because of how stingy Square Enix was about what they could do with him in Smash 4.
I’m confident that Sakurai knew what he was doing back when they were trying to get the rights to use those IP’s in the game. Surely he had the foresight of knowing how disappointing it would be if they were removed from a future game. What if since Cloud was nearly the last DLC character and Sakurai had been working on the new Smash around that time he got the rights to use him in Smash Switch way back then?
I don’t think any 3rd parties will be cut. Snake was an exception because of the Konami/Kojima shitting the bed situation.

>dreams
Story mode, akin to the one in Brawl.
>realistic expectations
Arcade mode.
>fears
Sans

Rate my in my perfect world roster.
Also biggest fear is definitely Rabbids.
Minecraft and Sans feel horrible, but no where near as possible. Rex also sucks and I hope his dumb ass doesn't get in.

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This would make my crush happy so I want this too.

Why would Sami get in over Andy?

Fuck I forgot to green text the “being cut” after saying Bayonetta. There’s no way she’s being cut when Nintendo is literally funding her next game.

I dunno. To spite pm???? I just like her design better.

>dreams
Yumetaro from Gimmick as a retro character
Bomberman
Skull Kid
>realistic expectations
Game plays mostly like Smash 4, maybe a little faster
BoTW Link isn't a clone
>fears
Sans, rabbids and shit like that make it in
The game is too slow

Here is your roster.
Take it or leave it.

Blue = Starter
Red = Unlock
Green = Alt Costume
Yellow = DLC

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>Dreams
Adventure mode and Wonder Red and Doomguy as characters

>Expectations
A bigger focus on competitive play and less newcomers

>Fears
It's the worst Smash yet and is super rushed

He’s been in since 64 faggot.

Waddle Dee

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The protagonist of Yuyuki, the 1989 FC game.

>dreams
faster physics engine and gameplay
my nigga waddle dee among other newcomers
bring back 2p adventure mode maybe a new subspace emissary equivalent
just breath life back into the game, smash 4 was the worse one by far and i hope the next one is almost the opposite

>realistic expectations
ARMS representatives
my nigga greninja gets snipped
fan favorites are assist trophies
third party characters
just another smash 2.0 in general

>fears
almost the same as my expectations kek
please god don't invite sans

easily brawls, I'd even argue it was a far better game overall except competitively

Brawl. Smash 4 only really has Little Mac, Animal Crossing, Duck Hunt, Pac-Man, Mega Man, and Koopalings while every Brawl newcomer is a good one.

>yfw Sans is a secret, unlockable, costume for Ness

you forgot shulk

What other hardware options are there without it being stupid?

>labo was all just a huge gimmick to hint snake coming back

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High. Believe

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LABO obviously. Nintendo was probably planning on LABO in the early stages of Smash Switch development, so the mad man Sakurai might have done it.

Again, without it being stupid.

>he

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How likely is Mike Jones as a retro pick? I fucking loved Star Tropics and it’s god tier soundtrack could become fantastic with the Smash music remasters.

I don't see labo getting a dedicated character. Possibly an assist trophy or as an item that generates a random labo kit. Then again sakurai could just go absolute madman levels of insane and just start churning out wildcards. It's like it Sans got in I don't see him being anything more than a trophy or something benign like that.

His Objection would be his new english VA and it just wouldn't be the damn same

his classic objection from the translation team guy was so much fucking better

If I had told you R.O.B. and Mr. G&W were going to be in a Smash game you would have said the said the same thing.

I didn't forget, I just don't care about Shulk.

No, they’re actually characters. There’s no mascot or characters or anything from Labo except the cardboard itself.

Oh yeah I forgot about that detail...