Why is God always an evil or corrupt antagonist in Japanese video games?

Why is God always an evil or corrupt antagonist in Japanese video games?
>but SMT is morally ambiguo-
Even the damn Law figures turn on him. Bullshit, Japs have a clear hate boner.

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>Hebrew god is jealous to the point of destroying everything by his own admission
Fucking gee whiz who would have thought he was pure evil

YHVH isn't the real God in SMT, he's a pretender

Why do people keep asking this?

Isn't YHVH just a corrupt part of it? He answers to the Great Will, which is assumedly the actual "God" being right?
Otherwise, there's tons of gods in MegaTen, not just him. Their depiction varies from game to game in appearance, role, and personality much of the time (although not always).

this thread is redundant, we have reached an answer many times over.

you will stop making this thread.

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God is a creation of man.
Ergo, God is evil.

Why are you so butthurt about Japs making fun of your religion, newfag Christcuck?

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Reminder that the only real "God" you fight in any of the Atlus game is SMT 3 and 4, and Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker

During the 90s when this whole "religion is evil" trope started to emerge, a Japanese cult released sarin in Tokyo's subway systems. I doubt its the sole reason the trope exists (Jesuits did try to spread Catholicism in 16th century Japan) but I wouldn't be surprised if it was a source of inspiration

crossposters from Sup Forums are still trying to astroturf Sup Forums into some Chrisfag board at the moment
it's why you started seeing shit threads like this and those "wow guys isn't Christianity so cool and interesting haha you should all go to your local church and learn more! look at this crazy angel isn't the design so cool haha kind of makes you want to be Christian huh" threads in the last 3 or 4 years

That was 1995. First SMT game was 1992

>YHWH
>Christian
Has Jesus ever even been mentioned in jrpgs?

it's a foreign deity
not japanese = not good

It's a shitty nationalistic game.

Book of Revelations is all over SMT, and it's pure Christian.

Revelation. Singular. Why do people always get this wrong?

Persona 3 had the Messiah persona and Revolver Jesus in it.

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MegaTen YHWH is just a boneless Demiurge etc etc
We just had this thread a couple hours ago

Canopus was cool. I should try fighting it without a NG+ party.

Just like a real life

He isn't corrupt, Humanity just isn't able to realize the absolute justice of God.

God makes an interesting opponent, but boring.

You already made this thread and nips don't give a shit about attacking religion or making any retarded message on it. They just go ape shit with their power levels in everything they do, and you can't go any higher with your power level than fighting god. Youre either looking to hard into this or youre intentionally misconstruing things to fit some kind of r/atheism narrative youre making up

No Christ, no Christianity.

Suck it, jewtheist

Isn't "real god" evil? He did create suffering and the devil.

>YHVH
>God
The Great Will is God in SMT and it's basically a metaphysical being that does whatever people as a whole desire.

>Sup Forums boo-gay-men is at it again!
retards like you are more pathetic than actual Sup Forums crossposters

*boring ally
Is what I meant to say, pardon my shit brain.

MORENOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>muh pole boogeyman
OBSESSED

jehova isn't even a real god, christcucks were just duped by some lesser entity and all the real gods are up there laughing at em.

>dude boogeyman lmao
t. Sup Forumscuck

Why do people say this when the literal father of JRPGs has the church and God as a force of good that is essential and helpful to the player?

It's just SMTtrash that does this and a couple Final Fantasy games and people pretends niches shit like SMT represents JRPGs more than fucking Dragon Quest. Hell play Trails and you play as priest and the church is a pretty bevelovent and important part of those games.

But whatever this thread will be made again in a few hours as it's been done for god knows how long on this board like every other thread on here.

>western devs grab random foreign mythos and makes villains/NPCs/heroes out of them
>just your average inspiration
>eastern devs grab western religious figures and makes villains/NPCs/Heroes out of them
>OH MY GOD
That said SMT isn't a good series at all outside of the music.

Play Resonance of Fate

BEHOLD MY BIBLE

He's not wrong though. Book of Revelation is New Testament.

>lesser entity
Even if that’s the case, it literally and metaphorically raped every pantheon to death, so yeah, they’re not laughing

SHOW ME WHAT YOU GOT

>he never played the origininal Legend of Zelda nor Earthbound

OOOOOHHHHHH

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It just works as an antagonist like many other mythical powerful beings. I don't think that it needs any more complex reasons behind it.

You're right about DQ, wrong about Trails though. It's all but confirmed by now that the Grandmaster of Ouroboros is Aidios

Still not Christianity, they just added its apocalypse fluff to Judaism because it’s cool.

That’s like claiming evangelism is based on Christianity because lmao crosses

Why would an all loving God be a good antagonist? You realize you're going to Hell for this kind of thinking, right?

>evangelism
Evangelion

is

you don't know shit about metaphysics bro

It's meant to be a reality check against you going on autopilot with your moral choices. If you blindly follow God/Authority figure, you can do bad things, even if you did them in the name of some God.

You have to have what you are doing agree with your own morals and ways of thinking. Surrendering yourself to someone else's fight is no different then dying. Its the day you cease being a main character in your story, and become a solider in someone else's.

overrated

Messiah is an available Persona, as anither user stated

Because the only realistic interpretation of an all powerful god that oversees a world like ours, with strife and disasters plenty, would either be one that is indifferent at best and maleficent at worst.

Japs aren't christian so they don't care. Besides its their story and fictional world, its god isn't necessarily the christian one

Living rent free in your head fag lord

t. Sup Forumscuck

>Aren't primarily Christian
Ftfy

hell user, YHVH is not even the supreme one, that is the great will/Axiom and is more a concept than a being.

So is Loki, what’s your point?

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Since when did you faggots take the plot of some video game so seriously? Who keeps on making these bait threads? This question has been asked multiple times every week for a couple of years now. It's a fucking video game. The plot is fantasy. Suspend your beliefs for a second holy shit.

>Appears before Judgment Day to save the virtuous. He is a universal figure, appearing in myth around the world. Many stories involve his death and rebirth.

From his profile. He's literally Jesus without calling him Jesus to trigger christfags. Which invalidates your argument SMT games don't have jesus

Because Japs actually read the bible.

Underrated post

>Why do they depict God like he is in real life?

You wish kiddo

the jew fears the samurai

Screencapping thread to drink from your tears when you're wrong

They hate god cause he gave them a small peepee, as if their anerexoic girls could take anything bigger

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If my extensive knowledge of porn is any indicator, their girls can

this

BECAUSE I AM A FUCKING GOD! I’M GOIBG TO KICK YOUR MORTAL PUNK ASS!

Stil my favorite quote from Catherine.

they could have went with the "Jesus is God taken human form" interpretation

That only gives more of a reason for them to hate him the men all has small pee pees and the woman all can't be satisfied

Never played SMT, but why is God the bad guy in their games?

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The "Great Will" is the collective consciousness and beliefs of the people living in the universe
Every demon is a part of, and spawns from, the Great Will through the belief of humanity

everyone's a bad guy

TRIGGERED

Name 5 JRPGs that do this if it is so common

Revolver Jesus was the false messiah
MC was actual Jesus

>YHVH
>god
How about you play the games before complaining about them?

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Don’t Cry

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Originally it was because it was the game equivalent of an 80s metal album cover. In Nocturne it was because it was either a test to prove your vision for the reborn universe was backed with resolve. In Apocalypse it's because SMT2 did it and they had no good ideas left since none of the original creative people are left working at Atlus.

I thought you always said Persona isn't SMT.

Either a test or because you were punching him to death so you could break out of the cycle of universal death and rebirth*

Lost my train of thought there.

Is there any jap game that portrays God as a positive force?

The actual JC plays a part in Xenosaga III

Trails in the sky. In the 3rd game, you even play as a priest.

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Isn’t Igor technically a good God? Same with the attendants of the room?

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>Bloodborne
The healing church is alright dudes with an alright agenda. Healin dem ashen sickness bois and purgin da beasts u kno fambram?
>but muh elder gods but muh evil laurence but muh orphan
who cares god is great praise jesus

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Not really a villain, just a VERY strict leader who believes in having total power. To be fair God literally rains fire on humanity in the torah I believe, he doesn't seem like the nicest guy in most religious texts either.
Dragon Quest VII. Game is about releasing him after he is defeated and the only time you fight him is as a fun challenge, not because you oppose him. In that game he is actually helpful to humanity.

Igor's a creation of Philemon, who's a dick

But Igor himself is a pretty chill guy, so my question still kinda stands? But okay, that makes a bit of sense.

In Xenoblade 1 god's a asshole, but in Xenoblade 2 he's chill as fuck and they're the same character

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How will SMT5 Play like?

Jesus was actually liked by his party. MC was the kid that got bullied into suicide.

At least I have robot wife...

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There is no real "God" in SMT. At least not anymore. Humans got executive authority which meant they could each alter reality. This lead to common beliefs becoming true and myths and gods existing. The aggregate of all human belief is called the Great Will. It's what humanity as a whole wants. It's the reason YHVH comes back every time. You can't actually stop him without killing everyone who believes in him in every reality and timeline.

Prior to all of this bullshit though humanity just had administrators that watched over it and the Akashic record which was destroyed.

Almost exactly like IV:A I'd imagine