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K712 + o2 amp master race.
My 702's were brilliant but this is next level when it comes to enjoying music or gaming. It's near perfect for everything.
Holy shit Sup Forums, I finally bought the meme about replacing the pleather earcups on my HE-400s with velour and I cannot believe the increased clarity and comfort. Srsly, if you have HE-400d replace the stock earcups RIGHT NOW. This is not snake oil like external DACs or amplifiers, this ACTUALLY WORKS
first time owning an IEM that cost over $50, what am i in for?
>rolled off bass, bloated mids, ear raping highs
>perfect
Sony MDR-V6 with velour pads and a Fiio e10. I'm pretty content.
>$80 amp for $80 headphones that dont even need an amp
llol
I got the e10 for the dac, and i use the coaxial out to connect to my surround sound receiver, but that's off topic. I've been using that setup for 4 years it's nice.
More like nice comfortable bass before extreme nigger mode, mids are more than good enough and...ear raping highs? are you fucking mad?, i'd love to see your opinion on the 702's highs if you think these are ear raping.
Which headphones do you own?, let me laugh.
DT 770
HE-400
LCD-2
lol woodscrews
>expect
I don't know. If you have some spare change please order some Rock Zircon IEMs right this instant and let us know if they sound as good as SE846s and recommend the Zircons to evrybody.
HAHAHA jesus fucking christ, I'm a somewhat beginner at this hobby and even I know your opinion is terrible.
770's? fucking seriously?, I haven't tried the other two but they're apparently good headphones in the same bracket as the 712's but they cost much more.
Are those 3 your actual headphones?, have you tried the 712's instead of just looking at graphs?
>770's?
yes
>fucking seriously?
yes
>Are those 3 your actual headphones?
yes
>have you tried the 712's instead of just looking at graphs?
no, i'm not really interested in them
>no, i'm not really interested in them
Says it all.
I bought my k712's for £180 new from ebay, the cheapest price I can casually find the 400's are £400 and lot's of 712 owners agree that these are better.
The LCD-2's cost over £700 and I know nothing of them, they might as well b the hd800's because that's insane money for headphones.
My incredibly expensive headphones cost £180 in comparison and sound aside they're possibly the most light + comfortable headphone ever made. I don't even need to mention the 770's, Even though I think they're one of the most simple/best looking headphones available.
why are you so fixated on money?
Because returns are diminishing after a certain point, the same as nearly everything in life. This is coming from a guy who has spent £350 on his current headphone,amp and dac. It's silly money for a headphone setup and we all know it.
Back to the point, I mentioned that my set up is near perfect, and it is, you mentioned 3 headphones one of which isn't in the same league and the other two cost insane amounts of money and aren't even 'obviously' better, in fact i've heard multiple people say that the 712's are better than both of those, especially the 400's. If I was you I would feel like a fucking idiot owning a couple of pairs of headphones equaling over £1000 when A £180 pair does the same in general.
So I want a headset I came game and listen to music with, what's everyone's opinion on HyperX Cloud 1 and 2, any other sets out there for cheaper but similar quality?
Got these coming in the mail. Can't wait for them to come in.
>It's silly money for a headphone setup and we all know it.
it's not silly to me because i'm not poor and i use them 10 hours a day
>in fact i've heard multiple people say that the 712's are better than both of those
guess i'll have to agree with you if that makes you feel better about your purchase
Not sure if serious but I will treat it as serious and didn't read the OP.
Generally, headsets are considered as wasteful spending. Almost every headset has crap build quality, crap sound quality, and crap mic quality. The recommendation is to buy good headphones and either use a good desk mic or modmic if you have to have a boom mic attached to the headphones.
Just bought my grado 225e's. Loving the fuck out of them, Grado master race
garb headphones, uncomfy shit, chinese build quality, distortion out the ass, no upper mids found, tzz tzz tzz
I hope you have a suit made from asbestos if the hardcore objectivists see your post.
Does this affect the sound in any way?
You tell us. It depends on the file really
Digitally? Depends on the source material. Audibly? No.
I'm not poor either and I've spent a lot of money on a headphone setup imo, take a step back and think of what this hobby actually is even though we love it, the differences above £100 aren't huge.
>guess i'll have to agree with you if that makes you feel better about your purchase
The opinions I mentioned aren't mine, but yes when I see multiple experienced people in this field Mention my headphones even in the same breath as a £700+ pair then yes, that's pretty satisfying. We would all be lying if we said other wise.
As you can see i'm not trying to argue with you or shitpost like most do on hpg. I'm just saying that I'm incredibly happy with my setup and that it's very expensive. I don't need to spend three times as much to chase perfection. After a point were all wasting money, I just jumped off the ride way before you did.
>You tell us
I've been listening to music, swapping between frequencies and I can't hear anything different
Waht are they like?, I see them mentioned on head fi all the time for example but nobody ever mentions them here. I Can't say I like on ear design but what's the appeal?, can you compare them to anything else?
>As you can see i'm not trying to argue with you or shitpost like most do on hpg.
then why do you keep making appeal to authority and ad populum arguments?
>I don't need to spend three times as much to chase perfection. After a point were all wasting money, I just jumped off the ride way before you
i spent as much as i had to. it's not that i enjoy spending money
You'd have to try them for yourself. I'm not very good at describing them.
They sound like a fairly flat response curve to me, they have an amazing soundstage, and great range. It feels like my ears are being tickled ( a great feeling ) when I listen to music with them. I also use them when playing my yamaha moxf-8, and it sounds great.
Also the 225s are not on ear, they come with the L pads which are around-ear
I feel like I have the chink version of your set up. Idk, I might get an o2 on black friday later this year.
>then why do you keep making appeal to authority and ad populum arguments?
Only because the headphones in question are massively different in price. In theory they shouldn't be in the same conversation.
Anyway i'm half drunk and I'm incredibly happy with my new 712's so I wanted to make people aware of them since they're rarely mentioned on here.
Enjoy your night m8.
thanks, you too
Your headphones are good enough m8 unless you feel that they are lacking in bass, they're the best looking akg's imo.
In terms of amp, yes. upgrade from that and get an o2 amp + a cheap dac like a usb sabre dac from amazon. If that portable fiio has a dac then just use that first and see how it goes.
>If that portable fiio has a dac then just use that first and see how it goes.
I meant along with the o2 amp. Don't buy the combo it's too much money.
holy fuck who is that
MDR 7506 + FiiO k1= god tier sound on the cheap. Y'all should check out the k1.
Sorry i'm an idiot, that's what I meant. If your fiio acts as a dac then just buy an o2 amp and you're set for life imo.
Just checked on amazon and I have noe idea what the fuck a FiiO k1 is lad
I've fallen in love with my SR80e, so I imagine the 225e is amazing.
I hope you bought them direct from OPPO so you can return them.
yeah dude that makes sense
Why would I? I bought them from an authorized dealer.
I don't want to be "that guy" who shits on everyone's purchases before they even get them.
I just didn't like them much. I feel for the "portable planar" niche they try to fill, the Audeze Sine is much better. If you just plan to use them at home there are much better value options at $400.
Either way, you will need something to drive them.
How are the upper mids on 712? I am stuck in mid-fi purgatory. Just got HD650s and I like them a LOT. The one thing I would wish for is a bit more upper mid energy for my fast paced rock and punk, but then they wouldn't be 650s anymore.
I'll be getting the HA-2 to replace my Fiio in a couple of months. I just like how sleek they are and many reviews say they are great in the sound department (which I'll see.when I get the.) I just want a better portable headphone than my M50x
Okay, as long as you have something. I find straight out of a phone they are really dull and mid-centric, and I am a mid-head.
With some juice the bass fills out a bit, but will require ear adjustment for most to find it to be "enough". Highs are still way too polite for my taste though. Ear-pads are almost supra-aural instead of circum-aural unless you have very small ears. Like, little girl ears.
Much better than M50X for casual listening though, no doubt.
You the guy I was talking to yesterday that likes his new hd650s more than his 600s? Ordered the 650s on sale yesterday but I'm still kind of concerned about the same thing you are, since that's mostly the kind of music I listen to
Yes. Concerned about what, performance with punk, etc.?
They're alright for it but it really isn't their specialty. They may come off as dulled around the edges in areas where I know the singer and the guitars should be tickling my ear.
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Still an enjoyable listen, but I prefer some of my other gear for it.
I don't know enough at this level so you can expect an honest opinion but funnily enough I did buy the 650's three weeks ago and they sounded great compared to my 702's with no EQ on either side
Oh, and recording quality will help a lot here. 650s are more forgiving than the 600s but the better quality the recording the better they will portray punk & rock. Not always easy when some of my favorite punk comes from late 70s bands that never even put out studio LPs.
>Concerned about what, performance with punk, etc.?
Yes, metal and punk mostly. Also I could be in trouble like you since I listen to lots of badly recorded stuff. Then again, it looks like I'm coming from headphones that have even less upper-mid energy, so shouldn't I notice a slight improvement as far as that kind of music goes?
How are u enjoying your m50s poorfag lmao
>all that mud
Are we doing this template thing again?
A few headphones are shown here.
>Either way, you will need something to drive them.
Not necessarily.
I wouldn't expect too much out of the HA-2. I seem to remember the output was somewhat noisy.
In this sort of comparison, all parts of the spectra ought to be considered. 650 has substantial midbass, not that the 598 doesn't either.
There's always EQ, if you find it objectionable.
Yeah, if it helps at all I prefer the 650s to the 600s for even that. They are both a little soft-sounding but the 600s were even softer in the treble to me.
I listen to those genres more on the go, so I have the MSR7, ATH-CKR9 (MSR7 in IEM form) and CA Orion which all have upper mid spikes and extended treble, thus I am content if the 650s were the only thing I had at home.
You don't even have the PM-3s in your autistic template, so unless you want to tell me you calculated how much power they need via some math pls go.
Not mud when it's all you ever know famalam. I wager the amount of treble coming from something like dt880s or k702s would make my ears bleed.
>thinking mud has anything to do with the treble
If he's who I think he is he is one of those hardcore objectivists who believe anything that isn't recorded (and don't mention how there is no consensus of HOW to accurately measure headphones) is placebo.
Very different measurements. I tend to prefer personalaudio, I think it's a lot more accurate from the headphones that i've heard (k702, dt990)
>spend $180 on headphones
>Just to listen to songs on purposely mangled cassette tapes
Is this what it means to be a meme
Alright, what's it got to do with then?
>headphones with completely sucked out mids
>cassettes mostly keep the mids intact
LEL
It balances out pretty well believe it or not
I wish this was actually interactive. I want to click an instrument and actually hear it
Thanks for all the help; one last question and I'll fuck off. If you were me and could only have one pair of cans for rock/punk/metal, would you EQ the 650s or just stick with 600s?
I wouldn't EQ anything, I dislike EQ not only because of the setup it involves (I stream most of my music on Spotify for the convenience so any EQ would have to be system-wide) but also I can't help but feel like I'm listening to a distorted version of the original sound. That's just me.
That being said I'd pick the 650 over the 600 for just about everything but actual studio monitoring. I had already spent several months listening to those genres on really dark T50RP mods like the Mad/Alpha Dogs until now so I may be biased to finding the less dark 650s good enough.
Like I said yesterday, you can't really go wrong with either and the similarities are greater than you might think.
Consider this reading: nwavguy.blogspot.ca
I use my mdr-7506 r with them too btw
Especially in public so everyone avoids me
Will do, thanks again
Hey I just wanted to say thanks for the people that helped me yesterday on /hpg/
I bought the Audio Technica ATH-M40Xs and completely hated the way they sounded.
I returned them today an got the M50X for 99$
and they are so much better than I could possibly every imagine.
congrats, now you know you love nigger bass and colored phones
>If he's who I think he is he is one of those hardcore objectivists
Who do you think I am?
I don't know about hardcore objectivist, I've been called all sorts of things.
>who believe anything that isn't recorded...is placebo.
I don't enjoy talking about headphones impressions because there aren't enough people around who can provide worthwhile impressions. Not that I have any serious interest in them.
Placebo is a word that gets thrown around too easily around here and in improper context. This is a sophisticated forum by any means, can't expect more.
>how there is no consensus of HOW to accurately measure headphones
This has an easier answer than the problem of a subjective target: the load and coupling is to be representative of the mean. The difficulty lies in issues such a realistic fit, since dummy heads and ear/cheek plates diverge from human anatomy, sometimes in ways that significantly affect response.
The subjective portion is much more in debate and uncertain.
>Placebo is a word that gets thrown around too easily around here and in improper context.
When you use the term it is accurate and in proper context? I notice that you haven't denied the assertion.
>This has an easier answer than the problem of a subjective target
An answer that hasn't been provided in how many decades of headphone research and development? I suspect you believe it is an "easy answer" simply because you cannot or refuse to contemplate that it is not as easy as you want to believe.
>The subjective portion is much more in debate and uncertain.
I don't think it is in my debate. I believe that everyone recognizes how subjective impressions of headphones need to be taken with a large grain of salt because of its recognized uncertainty. Thus why I believe it is more reliable than the claims made by hardcore objectivists who cannot fathom their approach is just as, if not more, uncertain.
>When you use the term it is accurate and in proper context?
I don't use the term often, and yes. That should have been evident.
>how many decades of headphone research and development
There hasn't been very much interest in headphone development at all until the last decade or so. It was mostly tied to interest in binaural recordings before the explosive popularity of the digital music player.
The physical target has remained the same, the difficultly is in meeting the goal through engineering. There is a standardized ear and canal simulator, what part would you consider in debate or inappropriate?
>There hasn't been very much interest in headphone development at all until the last decade or so.
I take it you've never been to Japan or thought of their contributions in the last forty years or so? Hell, all I need to say is one word to undermine this argument: Sony. One could argue that this one company did more for personal audio than any other company in the history of personal audio.
>Are we doing this template thing again?
I think we should, lots of new people showing up, it would be fun.
www.amazon.com/dp/B0189EVGAG/ref=cm_sw_r_other_apa_bvOnxb78QF13W
Here you go famalam.
Ordering them today. I'll report back when they arrive.
>boosted bass = bassy
>boosted treble = bright
>recessed mids = v shaped
What's it called when the mids are boosted?
Warm.
Mid-centric
Doesn't warm = recessed treble?
Thank you
>Doesn't warm = recessed treble?
That's dark.
*That's for mid-bass, user, around 300Hz.
*That's for mid-bass, user, around 300Hz.
(Damn, i hate typing from my cellphone)
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How good are these as far as poorfag headphones go? I'm looking to replace my Turtle Beach X12 headset with something a bit more proper. Also, any recommendations for mics?
Hey ni/g/gas
Im /r/ing a new set of cans. My MDRV6es took the piss.
Budget is $100-150
Im Merrikan
Gonna be using these on my phone, laptop, 3DS
I dont care about form factor, optimal sound quality for budget matters most
Id prefer something comfy.
As far as tone I want something with minimal bias and close to source as possible so I guess neutral
Taste in music ranges widely. Classical, Rock, Rap, Electronica, everything but Country basically.
I liked my V6es because they were the first real phones I owned and they really immersed me in what I was listening to. I got the aftermarket cushions and they were total bliss. I would get another set however I wanna try something new.
Halp pls??
SHP9500 if you want to stay on the lower side or HD558 for higher side.
Did they ever work on the issue of Sennheisers using cheap plastics and crumbling on you mid-lifecycle?
I've had my HD650s for around eight years now so I expect you're posting a meme.
my 595s have held up fine with 4 and a half years of daily use
I had an older model (discontinued) that cracked on me regularly. The most similar ones to them are the 202s.
You're complaining about cheap headphones breaking on you?
On that price range it's not a bad call, another common suggestion for cheap headphones is the koss portapro.
The cheapest mic that comes to my mind right now is the Zalman ZM Mic 1, it's far from being the best, but gets the job done and you won't feel so bad should it get lost or broken.
I agree with , if you want something different from the V6 those are good options, just be sure you are ok with open-back.
suh doodz
to pimp a butterfly sounds amazing on these cans
I figure if theyre fabbed on the same assembly lines I wouldnt trust the higher end ones either.
