27" Monitors Is a DELL U2715H good enough for medium-heavy gaming?
Starting to get cheap where i am and i need a new screen.
Got good reviews compared to other screens.
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>inb4 4k/144hz
Nope dont need it dont want it.
Just need a good all round monitor.
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>>Sup Forums
IPS is not what you want for "medium-heavy" gaming.
The colors are nicer than TN, but the pixel response is 5x a good TN panel.
If you're okay with a bit slower response time I have the panel from the little brother of this monitor (U2515H).
I have two Asus PB258Q and they are fine for some gaming, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone who wants to do competitive FPSs or something similar.
Lol im gaming on a 9 year old samsung 25.5" so anything would be an upgrade.
Sick of TN colors
I have the u23 whatever model which used to have the reputation for being the best gaming ips monitor (no imput lag). It was especially good for the price I bought it. You might dislike the matte finish, but it works, and I haven't noticed any glare problems since using it.
I also haven't had any problems playing games, at a highly competitive (dota) and casual level. Haven't tried 144hz, but of course it will be much better. Colors will be worse.
Final advice is to decide what you want most.
Best input lag and playing games is going to be a 144h TN probably.
Best colors is going to be an IPS. Known as bad for games, but some models can be completely fine.
Welp this seems to be the best IPS out of the bunch around 9ms response and around the same in latency/lag
I know the larger panel i go the more the lag and higher response times s 28-32+ is just too much also wouldnt fit on my desk
Anyone here who dabbles with games on one of these?
Well then 1440p in general will be a nice upgrade
Here are my 25" 1440p
Yeah it will be considering ive been using 1920x1200@60hz for all these years
USA Air force performed test to see how much frames can human eye distinguish (from gray to white) and pilot stopped near 200-210 frames (yes human eye percept light wave and not frames, but it easer to explain for normies). It means, that highly trained human could see difference in plain frames switching within 5ms. For normal human this number will be higher, not to say this number will be much higher with screen full of colors and action.
I am using NEC P242W that is not gayman monitor and I would trade spare 10ms for vivid and true colors . Look for good color space (at least 99% sRGB), good uniformity and least light bleed.
Dell is good budget monitors with zero-pixel guaranty within 30 days.
Here is two sites that will help you to choose monitor by panel:
Panel type
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Panel info
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I'm not sure anymore if I'll pick up Dell U2414H.
I was kinda thinking about going for a bigger resolution 16:9 or even try to pick up some cheaper 21:9. I know LG has one for pretty cheap.
On the other hand, I have a GTX960 and don't really want for my games to shit themselves, even if I don't play very often anymore.
Can GTX960 handle everything else on bigger resolutions though?
Oh, thin bezels are a must for me because I love my A E S T H E T I C S. Was thinking about 27" Dell too, but they are expensive.
And ofc, color reproduction is a lot more important to me than 144Hz for muh vidya.
I use a GTX 960
Unless you need ultra settings pretty much every game will at least be playable if you're willing to turn the graphics down a bit.
>GTX960
dont do it i have a 770 and its useless at 1080p or more now both card are around the same speed and you will find yourself putting alot of games on medium settings to get a decent minimum fps 60+
i got a 390 in the mail
He'll have to turn them down alot NO real aa and FX/SM/ML or Temporal AA instead post process is shit but sometimes its all you can do
Thanks, what do you think of the specs on this dell? You seem to know your stuff user
Alot of screens say they are '5ms' but until sites like tftcentral put them under a microscope (literally) you dont know if their telling the truth
So that leaves out everything but this and the $1000usd+ 'gaming' 4k/144memehz 2560x1440 screens
>He'll have to turn them down alot NO real aa and FX/SM/ML or Temporal AA instead post process is shit but sometimes its all you can do
I play dark souls 3, witcher 3, etc. at 1440p.
I seriously hate how people say games are unplayable unless you can have all the AA in the world or maximum texture details, like fuck off I used to play games in DOS you little shit, if you can't enjoy playing a game at the lowest graphics settings I honestly dont think you enjoy playing that game.
Sure it's nice to be able to turn the graphics up, but the game itself doesn't change when you do that.
You know what I was thinking - I'd appreciate larger screens and more work space for everything else, be it design, video editing or music production. How much would it really suck if I just lowered the resolution to 1080p? Is it really that much worse than native 1080p?
I have the 4k variant of this at work and the resolution is amazing but despite the fact that it is a 10 bit panel the colors are just dull and what I can only describe as turbo-matte.
most IPS monitors have about 8ms response time which is fine for most gaming.
Really? I thought this family of Dells had a great color representation. That's why I planned on buying U2414H.
Shoulda gone for the OLED
It's noticeably less than native res. But it works.
Unless you NEED the eye candy, 90% of your games will be playable at 1440p.
CSGO, rocket league, DOTA 2, star craft, league of legends, etc. All play at full settings in 1440p on a 960. Except rocket league with super high AA.
Things like Witcher 3, DS3, etc require medium/low textures, but can still easily manage solidly 60+ FPS.
I dont find the trade off to 1080p worth it and play them all at 1440p.
He's talking about professional levels of color accuracy.
You most likely will never even display 10 bit images on your display.
It might just be environmental factors but I feel like my chinkpad screen at home looks much better in that regard.
>I play dark souls 3, witcher 3, etc. at 1440p.
if you actually LOOK at your fps in a counter it will dip down into the 30s and 40's under load and you might as well be playing on a console at that point
>How much would it really suck if I just lowered the resolution to 1080p? Is it really that much worse than native 1080p?
try it, i upscale for fun and unless your sitting really close you shouldn't notice.
Better if you let your GPU do the scaling though
You do know that 4k and these older 2.5k panels are totally different right?
The one im looking at is 8bit
>I dont find the trade off to 1080p worth it and play them all at 1440p.
i agree with you here
anything under 1200p is eye rape (16:10 yo)
qnix or whatever korean junk?
Sounds like you just like color saturation more than is natural.
if you're not playing fighting games you don't need a monitor with dumb high refresh rates
>if you actually LOOK at your fps in a counter it will dip down into the 30s and 40's under load and you might as well be playing on a console at that point
Nope, solid 60 in both games at medium in Witcher and low textures in DS3.
Worst in DS3 is in super rocky areas with high tessellation, it drops to mid 40s. But the rest of the game is smooth 50+
I just want a solid color representation because I'm designing often and I only had absolute shit monitors. The one on my laptop has really low contrast, and the one I'm currently on is the opposite. They both suck hard.
well IPS contrast ratio is nothing to write home about.
If you want a good LOOKING display (not necessarily accurate, just good to LOOK at) you may want to look at VA panels, they have 3x the contrast ratio of most IPS panels.
bear in mind that I am not a professional graphics person and most likely don't know what I am talking about
I have 60 fps on ultra on witcher (smug face), the only thing is that I am currently playing it on a 1360x768 kek.
nah only your average fps tps stuff
>50+
>Smooth
The 960 is a old card (dates back to the 680 4gb variant like my 770) so soon most games which run dx12 or heavier workloads on dx11 will crush it, ive found it with all the games i play
>witcher 3
>meme 768p
>current year
>Sup Forums
i was looking at the other panels like the 8bit 4K TN's with 'faux' 10bit capability but honestly that resolution is useless to me.
Well I'm not really a professional either, but I'm doing web design and some graphic design fairly often. There's a possibility I'll do it professionaly though. But it doesn't have to be super expensive shit, I just want it to be fairly accurate because when I design something it looks miles different on "normal" monitors, so I always have to keep in mind that fact while designing.
The price on Dell U2414H is perfect for me, but I'm not sure if there is anything with a higher resolution (if I really go with it in the end).
>The 960 is a old card
GM206 that is the GTX 960 is the first of it's kind, it's the first '6 chip to use a 128-bit wide bus, etc.
It's not like you can draw direct comparisons to the older generation.
It's also the first nvidia GPU to support HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2. These are two features not even found on the 980 or 980Ti.
>Current year
Well what do you think why I'm looking for a new monitor. I used my laptop but I built a PC like a month ago and didn't have money for a monitor yet. GTX960 was the best I could pick at that time and it is still perfectly fine. As I said, I don't play that much anyway. I'll probably switch GTX960 for something new when I get the chance.
And I'm using Sony Bravia which is around 10 years old. Saturation is super high on this one. I literally can't see the color difference between #FFF and #CCC. And now THAT sucks major ass when I design.
>HDMI x.x
Who cares
Nvidia will nerf the drivers on it anyway when the 1060 comes out
YIKES
Have you considered a 4K Screen? They are cheaper than most of these 2.5k professional screens but IPS costs more
>Who cares
anyone who wants to have a 4k monitor??
HDMI 2.0 is required for 60hz at 4k.
And HDCP 2.2 is REQUIRED for streaming 4k content.
The GTX 960 is literally the only GPU out right now that lets you stream and playback 4k content on a 4k TV over HDMI. That's going to be a fact until the 1080 comes out next month.
>Not using display port
Yes, but they are still expensive, and as I said, I still want to game ocassionaly, preferably at least on medium settings. I'm looking forward for a new TES and Dishonored. If it would still look decent when scaled to 1080p i wouldn't give a fuck and buy some 21:9 immediately.
Not all 4k tvs have display ports.
Display port also doesnt support HDCP 2.2 (meaning no 4k netflix or amazon) unless it's DP 1.4 which also is barely available at the moment.
If you don't care about free-sync/g-sync or 60hz+ gaming - go for it. If panelook telling trust, it is true 8bit panel and not shitty 6bit+dithering one i.e. no color bending.
If you want 120hz or higher look at Acer Predator monitors, but ONLY if you can look at them in the shop or exchange without hassle (like on amazon). Do your research about their problems, if you want to buy one. They has a lot of problems, but if you can get flawless one, there is no better monitor for gaming.
Beside you need quadro/firepro GPU to do it as photoshop and other programs use OpenGL to show 10bit LUT.
if you get your GPU to scale 2K up to 4K it should look fine
I literally never use HDCP but yeah doesnt sound future proof does it
Are these newer 4K screens good? This screen is literally the same price or cheaper
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are 1080 panels truly dead? I figure they will be the standard for at least another decade due to consoles and most media at that resolution.
Their fine for day to day use
Only memers want higher resolution for gaming.
But its the way the industry is moving so bigger cheaper 4k panels are more plentiful than 2560x1400x60-144hz
>27" Monitors Is a DELL U2715H good enough for medium-heavy gaming?
I'd say so but why spend so much for a gaming monitor?
I said its more of a general use monitor
Also looking at 4K Screens as they are a little cheaper and most offer 8bit color anyway
i used 2560x1440 only a couple of times but never seen newer screens
Budget is around $550AUD Which is about $400ish usd after taxes and shit
>IPS
Do you retards not know IPS, SIPS, and PLS are all different technology?
I sure love mine. I would never tell you anything else. If your budget can handle it then go for it
>Didnt even meantion AH-IPS
Lel whos the retard?
Wait is yours a 2.5k or 4k screen?
>AH-IPS
Try to find any that are affordable or more than 6-bits.
Disgusting.
2560x1440 Don't have the desk space for multiple 30 + inch monitors
Just look over all the options on tftcentral.
As previously mentioned, the dell line is pretty solid. Supposed to have good enough colors for professional use, and they've made the input lag nonexistent, and kept response fast, so you can comfortably play games.
I personally haven't used anything above 1080p, but it's probably pretty nice to have the workspace. I'd say definitely go for the large size in that case, though. Text scaling might suck on some things, if the ppi is too big, but things are constantly improving, and you should obviously be checking reviews for that shit.
It is TN monitor. I will not hate on TN, but I would avoid them. Beside is your GPU good enough to drive 4k? You need at least 980ti/1070/1080 or AMD equivalent to play new games with mid-hight settings.
About 21:9 it is good only for working with text/music/other activity.Yes games look nice on them, but there is a lot of games that doesn't support that aspect ratio. If you want to work with photo/video, you need non-curved one as even highly priced one inflict distortion.
Argh my brains full of fuck
What about the '8bit' TN 4k panels?
Got a 390 8gb on the way but i doubt it will cut the mustard at anything over 2560x1440x60hz though
Not going to hang onto it for long just long enough for the good cards to come out in 2019 or so
>Argh my brains full of fuck
what?
They do make 27" UHD panels.
Dunno why
>8-bit TN
what a waste
Can't decide what res or panel I want native 4k is out of the question so that leaves 1080p which I'd rather avoid or 2560x1440xwhatever which I'd rather have
Go for 1440p. 4k will have its prime in next few years, when UHD Rec.2020 will be common and cheap. If you will need 4k, just buy second monitor (or 2 for surround).
>medium-heavy gaming
What the fuck does this even mean?
Heres youre (You)'s yo
>1440p
But their mostly TN or Cheapo IPS
???
I game on a cf591, no fucks given.
Not getting a 4k monitor below 30 inches.. Would rather kill myself.. Actually I would get one in the 40 inch range
I would get 2560x1440, If you're going with 4k go in the range of 30+ inches
>Negative curve 1080p
Why?
I thought the very idea of modern LCD's was to get away from retarded curved screens we had during the dark days of CRT
26-28" is the sweet spot for me
Always used samsung and viewsonic but surely there are better brands out there new
PPI of 4k at 26-28" is pretty extreme. You'll be forced to do some GUI scaling. And sadly many programs don't do well with windows scaling.
Hmm that sucks
looks like theres nothing new between 25-26" which is my current screen
27" at 1080p will look terrible and 2560x1440 will rape my older 390
Hmmmm
????
I have the 2515H model and its fucking fantastic.
The screen looks amazing, the build quality is really good, it also tilts very easily, can definately recommend.
144 Hz 1440p G-sync or 60 Hz 4k G-sync?
(Both IPS)
I already have a 1440p IPS monitor (no g-sync) currently.
>2560x1440 will rape my older 390
Wut...
The 390 is fine for 2k...
At max settings (except aa)?
G-sync is a meme
Freesync is cheaper and better
>cheapo IPS
You do know that the technology in the $700-1000 panels is identical, or often worse, than the ones in the $300-400 panels?
Is a Dell 2515H worth it as an upgrade from an ASUS VE248H?
Mostly interested because they look so fucking sexy and I need to get something to make better use of my 980.
>better
how? please explain.
Modern game devs Jew the fuck out of their games. It's why even 2d games lag these days.
>reviewers struggle to get stable FPS in the most powerful configurations on the planet that cost more than a house
>"I want stable fps"
Good goy
>At max settings (except aa)?
Depends on the games. Battlefield 4? Probably. Witcher 3 or GTA5 or other similarly demanding games you'll need medium settings.
I play GTA 5 on a GTX 960 at 1440p high preset with 50-75fps. It's not ultra or highest possible view distance. But it was also a cheap card.
I got the Asus version () for $265 each.
I can recommend the panel for sure and I've heard the dell is usually better calibrated from the factory.
its such a mixed bag.
Half of the new screens dont even have reviews
its cheaper and free
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Doesnt seem to be that good for gaming
i got 'stable' fps until my card crapping out, it was a 4 year old design though.
i tried mantle back in 2013 and when i made the switch back to AMD i found them only supporting Vulkan (barely) and DX12
GTA 5 is a unoptimized pig i dont expect it to run well until i get a new card in 2018
$300 budget,mostly for movies and general computing and maybe lite gaming? While I'm here, whats a good desk mount for a monitor (I don't want to wall mount and I have an old oak desk from the 90s.)
When you paying more for IPS, you only paying for 90%+ Adobe RGB(needed only for photo/video work) or for better uniformity (but uniformity only works in NEC and EIZO, where good models start from 1k$). Again, look for 99-100% sRGB and 8bit panel.
Check monitor with something like dps.uk.com
I played GTA V on max settings (without those advanced shits) with around 80-90 fps ON 768p.
Wut, it somehow feels low now. Also I have i5 6500 and 16GB RAM.
You can look on ebay for SIPS and PLS monitors
You need a dual-link DVI though, you literally can't use these Korean monitors without one.
My first one lasted almost 4 years, I should've replaced the PSU when it started blinking out. My second one is matte, with a glossy thick plastic protective layer. Dimmer than my last monitor, but still works 100%. I haven't tried overclocking this one, but my last one was like first generation Korean and could only hit 65fps. Most can hit at least 70-75hz, which is plenty smooth.
>768p
please stop
Still no idea what to get
>400aud+ 300usd for a chinkscreen
???
Nuh
>Pay several hundred dollars for a cheap piece of shit that you need all these workarounds to get running
>it dies after 'nearly 4' years
What a fucking waste of money. Even my cheap samshit monitor has run for more than 12 hours every day for 7 years now.
LG 27UD68
worth getting or hold off for a better one?
Do you have some problem, buddy?
>all these workarounds
Mine came with a dual-link DVI cable and my GPU supports dual-link DVI, are you insane?
>it dies
I had a 30year extended warranty for $50 (it was like $320 total). I got a full refund.
>12 y/o monitor
Too old, wouldn't have sex with
>27" 3820x2160
>160+ PPI
Lol enjoy trying to scale that
>400 Australian Dollar equals 290.72 US Dollar
Please tell me you know that Australian dollars aren't used everywhere on the planet
>30year extended warranty for $50
That's a bargain
it hurts.
espeically after having 1.10 :(
sounds suss as all fuck
Typo if you couldn't tell, but yeah, it was a Squaretrade warranty. I'm really surprised they accepted the return, as it was literally within a month of running out, and I had already broke open the PSU to see what the problem was. Sent them a back of broken PSU, the replacement I tried, and didn't tell them I already had the monitor open and broke a wire or two lol
I was thinking of buying a broken body since the screen was still good, but I figured since the warranty was still there I'd try to return it.
a bag of broken psu*
and it was a three-year warranty
I noticed they don't offer me the warranties on ebay anymore lel.
how much would it cost to return?
Thats what always worries me about buying screens from os
>stardew valley lags on my 3570k/670 setup at 1440
Time to upgrade my GPU I think
Literally how. I played it at 1440p on my r7-260x and A10-7850k APU.
>That system
What the fuck?
The a10-7850k was $100 with a motherboard. Then I got the 260x for free.
For Squaretrade? Idk, $20 at most? They might've sent me a label for free shipping.
If you're going with the Korean monitor sellers, ironically a lot of them seem to bend over backwards, because on ebay reputation is literally everything. Having 98% feedback vs 99% is a huge deal, and like 99% vs even higher is a big deal.
Unless you're playing twitch-based online shooters at a professional level, the difference between 1ms and 8ms response times is utterly irrelevant. An IPS panel is fine for 99% of gaymers.
I moved it from my 1080 monitor to my 1440 one and it had really noticeable frame drops. I just don't think my 670 handles two screens like that very well
this
Try with just the 1440p. It ran flawlessly on my system and mine is substantially less powerful
Though I've since had a major upgrade.
I'll try it out. I plan on doing a new build soon anyway (though my 3570k is still good). Just waiting for broadwell-e and the 1080