The next Macbook Pro is expected to have the frame of a Macbook. Do you plan to buy one?

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If this implies they're going to ditch more ports and make you pay extra for a dongle, no thanks.

There was a time when I would've considered buying a MBP, but with the way Apple has been shitting the bed when it comes to practical design over the past few years, I've lost all interest.

>buying Mac
Nope. I have a desktop

I have a MacBook from last year. It is trash--the keyboard is miserable. If thinning the MBP means they'll use that keyboard, fail.

I'm just going to make even more fun of Apple and their users.

i tried it out in store and the keyboard is pretty much one step away from touch sensitive bullshit

the keys are so mushy and awful to type on

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Does this mean MacBook Pros are going to overheat even more now?

Just water cool it bro

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>"expected"
By whom?

I might get one. I have a 10-year-old Dell D620 that is comfy AF but even with a new battery will struggle to last more than 3.5 hours. I'm after something light with nice battery life. I could go for a Surface Book 2 if that is released soon.

nah, they'll start only putting ULV i5 and i7s and Core M processors in them


or even worse they're finally going to start doing ARM in the Mac line

Only if they remove the one port you get and replace the keyboard with a trackpad.

What a waste of perfectly good water

Roughly when is the new MBP coming out?

Very likely to be announced at WWDC which runs June 13-17 so probably available by the end of June.

>Macbook Pro
>frame of a Macbook

it would be okay if they keep some ports, and give a little more travel to those keys.

Take your PajeetBook and fuck off.

I like the keys :(

MFW a few years ago I was planning to get a MacBook Pro to replace its internal HD with an SSD and its DVD reader with an HDD.
I waited for the new version to come out, and they released that all-in-one bullshit where everything is soldered together and there was no DVD drive anymore.
It went from MacBook Pro to MacBook Air Plus.

>pro is defined as noodling around wasting my time optimizing my rice effects

Are you too poor to afford a superdrive and a thunderbolt display to hook it to?

>pro is defined by throttling to 800mhz and heating up my dildo to 100*C before inserting it into my bf's anus while giving him a BJ

They still sell the ones with the optical drive. On discount at most brick and mortar stores, and even refurbs straight from Apple.

>or even worse they're finally going to start doing ARM in the Mac line
>even worse
How is ditching Intel 'worse' than anything?
If anything this would just be an improvement, and a positive aspect despite the shit frame and no ports.

I don't like the action, but I find that I make far less mistakes on the Macbook than the Pro, simply because the keys aren't chiclet style anymore.
They went for rounded, depressed keys like the current thinkpads.
It would be nice if the new macbook pro had a style similar to the 2015 macbook, but retained its current thickness and a few USB type B connectors.

not him, but how does this machine perform today?I mean the 13'' 2.5 i5 model

Where did I imply that?

Also how would that be different on an Air, when the only difference, in this context, is the ability to replace the parts it came with with better (or different) ones?
Also you could add more ram as well.

>Just buy this lacking machine and then buy external shit to use it with. What are you, poor?
This is what applefags believe.

Nah, I prefer buying a non-obsolete computer from another manufacturer.

Really quite good, as long as you put an SSD in it.
The screen is dated though, and looks incredibly pixelated compared to what I'm used to with ultra high res.

I can't imagine that shit ever being 'pro' and by that I mean capable of more than facebook so no.

>Apple has been shitting the bed when it comes to practical design over the past few years, I've lost all interest.

This.

>past few years

no
mind you, I only have this MBA for its battery life, and it's doing fine

anyone else remember how Apple used to have all the normally replaceable bits (battery, RAM, keyboard, etc) on their laptops, except you had to completely and utterly disassemble the machines to get to the HDD bay

Let me guess, you heard this from a "friend".
Spoiler: There will be no more Macbook Pro, it was deprecated after they released the Macbook Pro Retina.

Do you have a source? This would be interesting, especially if they came down in price.

>pajeetbook

then they should ditch the "pro" branding

>computer lacks features
>blame the user for being too poor for not buying replacements for those features
Can I also buy a keyboard that isn't atrocious?

that's because you are dumb and you like things that are shit

>even considering buying any MemeBook

No.

I have an unlimited computer budget at work so yeah I'll be buying a fully loaded one on release day.

My guess is that's precisely what they're going to do.
The Macbook brand will seep upwards into the space previously occupied by the Pro, so they can charge a premium for the 13" MBP over the 13" Macbook

How common is this?

More common in America with their shitty plugs.

My wife's son needs a new mac. Which one should I get him?

A big black one with a gallon of lube.

a fool and his money are soon to part ways

hahah epic burn!

Its not.
Sup Forums is full of people that make a shitstorm every time an apple logo appears

This

With good reason. Apple fucked technology up for us. Now all the manfactures realise they dont need a good product just good marketing.

POO IN LOO PAJEET

>Apple fucked technology up for us
do you not remember PMPs before the iPod? or smartphones before the iPhone?

do you think PC makers were right on the precipice of higher density displays were it not for the rMBP? or do you think that MS floundering for the subsequent 3 years signals that they had no clue what they were doing, to say nothing of hardware manufacturers?

i don't like apple, but they keep competitors on track. personal electronics are generally awful until apple provides a sort of guiding post for everyone to try and beat.

except for retarded, myopic fucktards for whom it's a lightning rod.

>do you not remember PMPs before the iPod? or smartphones before the iPhone?
Yeah, they weren't dumbed down toddler shit for retards.

>do you think PC makers were right on the precipice of higher density displays were it not for the rMBP?
1920x1200 laptops were around while Macshit was stuck on 1152×768 trash.

Honestly Apple makes the best CONSUMER products available. If you want tough, serviceable, BUSINESS machines than a old ThinkPad is best. I like Apple's old MacBook Pros, but they (and others) are transforming pro machines into ultrabooks for the masses. We have to realize that the mainstream tech market is growing very casual, very young, and hostile to traditional concepts like hardware repairability and the file manager. It's sad, but it won't get better. To paraphrase Jobs: People with "real" laptops in 5 years will be as common as truck drivers today. Only those who need them will have them.

>switching from x86 to ARM on a computer marketed for work and portability is a good thing
I want Sup Forums to go and stay go

>smartphones before the iPhone
palm treo veteran here: it was the best phone I've ever had bar none

If it looked like a 12" Macbook, but benched and cost like a rMBP, you bet your ass I'd buy it.

>Yeah, they weren't dumbed down toddler shit for retards.
your memory is faulty. they were awful and unusable.

and 1920x1200 displays are fucked for scaling. what's the base resolution for that? 960x600? you want 2:1 scaling so you don't need to worry about abortion-tier interpolation.

i understand your desperate wish to be a zealot, but get a grip on reality.

>your memory is faulty. they were awful and unusable.

More like your brain is faulty and the only interface you can grasp is your toddlerOS single-panic-button babby toyPhone OS.

Your nostalgia is getting the best of you. If you're not doing MUCH more with your smartphone today than you did with your Palm Treo, then it's because you're retarded. I had PDAs before smartphones took off too, and everything about it was a mess - mobile software was all absolute garbage, the operating systems were all terrible, every hardware feature you could think to point to was miserably inadequate.

I could text, write emails, and even write essays in word mobile with windows mobile much better than any android or iphone can today

the only limiting factor in 2007 was internet and mobile cpu speed; things that would have gotten better without the iphone

Which PMP do you think had a superior interface? in particular, which ones were offering the internal capacity that the first iPods had at that time?

i had the iomega hipzip when it first came out. it came out around the same time as the first iPod. people actually touted the hardware as pretty good, and it used these 40MB pocketzip disks and only had about 5 hours of battery life.

and the interface? pic related.

you keep bitching about how interfaces made shit more accessible to babies like you're upset that interfaces used to be edgier before they sold out. they're not an alternative music group and your hipster faggot tier whining isn't endearing you to anyone.

Apple is pretty stupid about the whole thin meme but I honestly can't see them being this stupid. If this is true they would be cutting out a pretty sizable target market and at the end of the day they care more about their bottom line than anything else.

how can you not write emails faster in android now than you could back then? swype-style keyboards provably enable speeds of up to 70-90 WPM.

Actual physical keyboards that allow you to enter punctuation with function keys.

>i'm a braindead mongoloid and the only thing that exists to me is what apel tells me exists

6GB. 1GB more than the iShit that came out over a year later.

Dedicated buttons for all major functions.

But keep defending your toddler toys because dedicated back and forward buttons give you panic attacks.

Fun fact: The HipZip was the first Vorbis hardware player.

there are two things here to address
1) it's hard for me to believe that you couldn't match speed with a modern keyboard, even with that issue hamstringing you, unless you never managed to get proficient with modern keyboards. i'm seeing people demonstrating ~120wpm with swype-style keyboards. even if you had to go back and add commas, semicolons, etc... all over the place, you would only really face a slowdown if you never learned where those keys are on the layout.

2) why were you writing (what sound like formal) essays on your phone? what culture do you live in that people don't cut you slack on imperfect punctuation? i live in academia and "sent from my phone" in the signature is accepted among everyone as blanket coverage for things like short, imperfectly (or un)punctuated messages.

this is all to say nothing of the generally much better screen & readability, and the other dimensions i brought up before (operating system, software, etc...).

i used a palm treo and a sony ericsson p900 (among other devices) back in the old days, and they were amazing devices for their time, but objectively a pain in the neck to use.

we all look back on these devices and tend to think nostalgically, and i would even accept the argument that this stuff was head and shoulders above/better than other tech in our lives, but it got SO much better in the 3 years from ~2007 to 2010 that digital devices from the previous 7 or 10 years look like crap.

How is ARM worse for portability? Phones run on ARM.

I remember that era of shit tier products.

Thank Allah that Apple came around to BTFO those shitty consumer electronics.

Untrue. Not an applel fag but i own a 2007 plastic MacBook and the hdd/ram is very easily accessible behind a 3-screwed plate under the battery.

not him, but
- the original iPod offered 5 and 10GB capacity
- looks like the iPod was smaller
- more buttons expose functionality but are not necessarily better. there's a whole field studying how people get tasks done. you should look into stuff like GOMS, the NASA TLX survey, and human-computer interaction in general. "buttons everywhere" sounds like something an engineer would do after getting frustrated trying to make his interface sensible.
- ad hominem makes you look weak. i'm not saying he's any better; just be the bigger man for once.

the creative nomad was 12x12x3cm
the first generation iPod was ~10x6x2cm

you could've put two iPods together and it'd be roughly the size of the nomad. and like said you've decidedly used the smallest capacity iPod for your comparison, despite there being a larger-capacity version available at the same time.

did you choose the 5GB model to peg them on cost? if i went and looked at the retail price of a nomad am i going to find that it's roughly on par with the 5GB iPod but not the 10GB version?

10GB was far later.
>defending being a manlet

Smaller, 20GB+, video, file support, etc all MP3/PMP players all came before iShit that Applel copied and added in years later.

>have to either get a Macbook or use Apple computer lab for upcoming 'mobile app development' course (Swift + Xcode)
What do I do, other than transfer to a different school?

>if i went and looked at the retail price of a nomad am i going to find that it's roughly on par with the 5GB iPod but not the 10GB version?
You're going to find the 10GB didn't even exist until 20GB versions of other players already hit market.

Xps 13 1800p master race

never mind. i looked it up and the 10GB iPod was ~$500, on par with the 6GB NOMAD's $500. if there's another reason you would make an unfair comparison, i'm open to hearing it, but i'm not going to go looking for explanations anymore. occam's razor says you just didn't want to give the other side of the argument a fair shake, so grabbing the most *convenient* facts made more sense than being rigorous about fact-checking.

Transfer to a different school.

>10GB was far later.
The 5GB version showed up in stores in November. The 10GB version showed up in March. How long have you been alive that 4 months justifies "far later"?

and where did 20GB come from?

Come on man, this is just a two-year community college thing to get done so I can transfer to a 4-year, and I'm almost done.

sorry, meant 5 months.

So you're saying that going to a community college doesn't bother you that much, but having to use an Apple product does?

I went to a community college before transferring to my undergrad and graduating. Being at a community college is definitely a bigger thing to be upset about than using an Apple product. Community colleges are where utter failures go to kill time and look like they're trying to improve themselves. You're basically floating around in a bowl full of turds.

>occam's razor says you just didn't want to give the other side of the argument a fair shake, so grabbing the most *convenient* facts made more sense than being rigorous about fact-checking.

>just claims iShit was first with zero factual evidence
>red herrings to size differences
>tries to lie about size availability

Not anymore thanks to the Surface Pro/Book.
Only way to make the Mac even a choice anymore is if they use Quad Core U chips on the 13" Retina.

Is right, community college is where high school failures go. Just use the fucking lab, if you can't get your simple hello world shit done in under an hour in the lab, then just give up on programming and be an accountant or something.

Programmers are the new accountants anyway.

I'm going to one because it's $15k a year cheaper than a local 4-year, it's letting me build up a 4.0 GPA on braindead work for scholarship money later on, and I've got an internship lined up with full-time work guaranteed afterward. I might be a failure for going to a community college, but I'm saving assloads of money for at least a couple of years.

I'm definitely interested in hearing how you justify calling a 5 month difference substantial. Even with a manic, annual refresh cycle, 5 months still squarely puts them in the same generation. No place I'm seeing online separates them into different generations, and there doesn't seem to be any controversy about this except on this one thread with you in it.

Get a T430 with a 9cell. I get about 8 hours of use and thats on windows. Linux is terribad when it comes to power management, at least in my experience so I get like 6 hours when I use my eOS partition. If you fiddle with Lenovo Power Manager, you can easily get 10 hours with it.

No one here's taking you seriously anymore after all your attempts are defending Apple and lying in the face of fact to try and paint them as some pioneer or anything. All they do is copy and market. If you claim you care anything about fact you can look up the history of MP3 players since you were probably in diapers at the time and see for yourself how every feature and spec of the iPod is copied from players that came months if not years before it.

In every community college course there are people that are basically vegetables, people that are trying but just can't do it, and people that think they have their shit together. You're clearly in the last group, but that group doesn't uniformly have their shit together. Most of them just talk about all their great plans and then a year later when you ask how things are going you hear about all the ways external factors prevented them from doing the thing they said they'd do.

I'm not saying you're one of those people, but you'll forgive me if I'm skeptical that a randomly selected Sup Forums user is actually among the ~5-10% of community college students who's going to transfer in 2 years and later actually succeed.

Joke's on you, my CC became a 4 year institution partnering with the state universities while I was there and I got a BAS after the CC changed name to just C.

That's pretty nice. Where do you work might I ask? Currently interning for a shit DBA job I hate and my "boss" also has a computer budget.

if you think this is defending apple, you're more hyper-sensitive than I thought. I'm just balancing the zealotry in this thread with the reasonably measured argument that Apple brought something to the table that, frankly, a lot of these product categories needed. i don't think apple has done anything amazing, or ~revolutionized~ the universe or anything crazy like that. i'm just acknowledging that apple has made a series of contributions that had holistically a net positive effect on personal electronics.

i agree that there's all sorts of shit to hate about apple products and services, but the good outweighs the bad. when someone responds so violently, like you're responding, that it seems like you're having a fit about this carefully constrained point, it leads me to think that you're just a zealot, and that you'll have a tantrum about anything i say if it's not completely and unequivocally negative.

I heard about a system like that happening in California. Nobody is going to take you seriously, I hope you know that.

Transfer and get a real degree from a UC (not Merced).

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