Rise of Ad-Blocking Software Threatens Online Revenues

When did you grow out of your angsty teen phase, realizing web content isn't free, and proceeded to uninstall all your ad blocking software? I was 15.

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ads are a lazy uninspired way to make money, and they should be ilegal

Fuck off, I installed adblock on all my relatives computers and they stopped calling me about viruses.

Ads are literally an attack vector even if you don't click on the giant green download button ads.

Lol this.

If they want my money, build in a donate button. but... not like wikipedia does.

>please make your experience while browsing the internet worse because i want to make money
no thanks

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funny how you don't remember how the internet was before all the post-monetization cancer

adblocker are retaking the internet.

>google
>nsabook
Goodbye and good riddance.

The threat has been answered long ago: sponsored content. The blatantly illegal kind, too, where it's straight up product advertisement in the context of a "report" without any indication where the money came from. You can't adblock shit like that.

The internet died a long time ago.

Nobody on their cellphones use adblockers.

This is a lie.

>mfw i saw some idiot in the bus today who was playing games on his phone and the ads took like 1/3 of the screen
i was about tell him to look up adaway and then i thought "yeah no...."

rebbit joined the dark side as well

reddit.com/r/privacy/comments/4ll9tc/it_looks_like_reddit_wants_to_become_a_profitable/

It was actually pretty sweet when ads were just gifs. Then pop up ads became a thing. Now we have 200MB of ads which begin playing as soon as you load a page which is real awesome when you have other people in the house and it's 2AM. I don't mind Sup Forums ads because they're small and not obnoxious, but as a rule I block them everywhere. These people brought it on themselves.

We must preserve the idiots if we noble few are to retain our privileges!

this

this Sup Forumsent knows his shit

Want me to drop my adblocker? Get rid of autoplay flash bullshit, flashing or moving ads, banner ads that try to look like actual content, pop up ads, and find a way to prevent ads from carrying malware. Stick to simple banner ads or get the fuck out of my face.

>realizing web content isn't free
They should charge for it like any other professional unless it is a sponsored article.

There are 3 types of articles, the ones that related to a field of interest or profession and are worth the money, the ones that relate to entertainment, and advertisement.

A huge problem with the media is that every faggot works practically 4free thinking ad revenue will sustain them, and the equally retarded faggots with dyed hair who think everything should be free.

>If they want my money, build in a donate button. but... not like wikipedia does.
Kill yourself.

>You can't adblock shit like that.
You can with this thing called reading comprehension.
>I am entitled to everything and fuck thinking on my own
Shouldn't you be on Sup Forums?

We need a smartphone board so retards like you can fuck off there.

>realizing web content isn't free, and proceeded to uninstall all your ad blocking software?

adblockers are a sign of a malware free computer, not immaturity you idiot.

Why does shittit gets so much free advertisement here? This is no wonderland but that place is pure garbage.

Why do web content creators expect to make money? They should be honored just by the fact that people give a shit about what they are writing. Fucking fat bastards learned a little html and css and expect ads to bring in the benjamins. Fuck you, if your site is down, there are literally dozens of similar sites that will gladly take your place.

>pic
Yes PLEASE!

meh, I suppose next you'll be telling me it's wrong to inspect element and get the good image from clickbait shit is wrong too

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>I was 15.
You still are 15.

> Consumers don't want to watch ads
> Instead of finding other ways to make money companies take it to bitch and moan about ad blockers

>web content isn't free
I run a website. I don't have any ads.
It costs basically nothing to host web content. What really pisses me off is static-pages and blogs covered in ads. They're doing shit that AWS would host for fucking free, yet are demanding I risk being part of a JS botnet so they can make some money.

> Expecting me to watch ads on my fucking computer
I hate ads so much I close my eyes while on the highway so I avoid looking at billboards.
Fuck ads.

So I should eat shit because corporations aint getting top bucks? Wew.

You can just tell adblocker to be disabled on certain sites if you really care that much...

Let me ask you a question: Do consumers have an obligation to watch ads?

If you think they don't use adblocker, because ads are a waste of your time. If you do, don't use adblocker. Most people aren't going to think they should be forced to watch ads, so don't disparage them for thinking so.

I'm 29 and have been blocking ads since 2003

>implicit contract
kek I agreed to nothing with standing in court

>36 percent of asia pacific uses ad blocking on mobile

>aka pajets

This.

Until ads no longer come with the risk of driveby malware infections, I'll keep blocking them. I don't give a fuck about their lost revenue when "paying" for their clickbait means that I have to leave my network open to kiddyscript.lulz.xyz.js and other assorted shit.

Lets not forget that advertising is inherently adversarial. The entire goal of an advertiser is to distract you from what you want to be doing and put your eyeballs somewhere else, so as to persuade or trick you in to paying money for something you otherwise would not.

now why would I want to allow that?

But ads are a pull service so I can choose not to download them specifically, how is it my fault if the corps lose money because i don't view something they're giving me a choice not to view?

Lol nice try ad malware shill

I made this mistake with eBay, mostly because I was afraid it would FUBAR my listing process somehow, and got Teslacrypted for it. Two Teslacrypts running at once, double encrypting my data, even. Slipped right past my AV like a rat in the night.

Unless you run a blocking browser iOS is ad cancer. Hijack redirects, ads that expand and wreck the layout of sites. Some sites you can't even visit due to ads that make you unable to scroll the page.

Zero violins played for the sites with these ads.

Can't someone just make an infographic with all the reasons to block ads so we don't have to circlejerk about this all the time?

I will stop using adblockers when the internet will fix their ads. I'm tired of fake ads, animated ads that slow the browser, ads that cover a huge part of the page, ads that are ridden with viruses and use exploits, ads that fucking track you and your cookies just to give you more relevant content. Fucking shitbook is tracking everyone who doesn't uses facebook with those like and comments plugin on some sites.

You can make the same argument that antiviruses cost the cryptoware industry millions

These threads are as useless as OP's dick and they should be banned.

I'm literally posting this message from Firefox Mobile with uBlock Origin installed.

Try browsing porn sites without adblocker. I dare you.

>decide to make a blog/news site nobody asked for
>once you get enough visitors, write nothing but opinion pieces that shill out for whatever brand is willing to pay you
>somehow think that the world owes you money in exchange for creating no value (and in fact, actively making the web a shittier place)

Guess what, I will control what code executes on my own machine and what network connections my router makes, no matter how butthurt you people get. And this isn't even considering the malware aspect, the visual improvement of websites with ads removed, the time wasted on ads for videos/streams, etc.

Even if there was no benefit to blocking ads, I would literally STILL block ads JUST to help put clickbait sites out of business. If you can't make money without ads then you aren't offering anything of value, so either go get another job or create a website simply as a non-profit hobby if you care enough about something.

So I assume you just turned 16?

I'd rather pay for google and youtube than have them spy and drop ads on me.
They can't become paid services soon enough.
The same goes for MS

>click on the page randomly because of ocd
>popup assaults me analy

I think I'll keep my adblock on, thanks though.

that's not what they're going to do.
you're going to pay for them and then they'll still spy on you. They'll drop advertising for a while to get people to pay up, and then once most of them are doing so, they're bring back ads. Probably in a difficult-to-block form. Youtube, say, would use it's own proprietary JS player and encoding that stops the video partway through and serves an ad. There are also plenty of non-advertising businesses eager to buy user data. Political campaigns come to mind first.

You might remember how when cable TV was new in the 70s, it was ad-free, because you were paying for it. Look at it now.

>see articles like this
>decide to turn off flashblock, noscript, and adblock for one day
>"how bad could it be"
>internet becomes unusable
>pop up, redirects, 300 MB videos trying to load, huge overlays on screen that won't go away
>not even on porn sites
>never again

>>Rise of Ad-Blocking Software Threatens Online Revenues
>Malicious and obnoxious ads makes more people interested in ad-blocking software

Actually, porn and the Internet is a pretty interesting case. Pornography is, like, the most profitable entertainment branch and, basically, all of it is available for free on the Internet.
How are they doing it?

Most porn sites have premium account options for HD videos or something.

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Ads are no different than spam. Online services could make plenty of money sending you spam advertisements every time you visit their website, but you wouldn't want them to do that, would you? If they did, and you blocked them, how would it be different than blocking ads on their website?

Some people have a strange disconnect where they think that service providers can do anything and you just have to accept it. Personally, I view ads as a security risk. Almost nobody vets their advertisements, and even those that do have no idea how to spot a malicious ad. It only takes one zero-day for someone to take over your PC from a rogue ad.

Thanks for reminding me to install ublock on my phone. I really hate ads on mobile. They make the browsing experience almost unbearable sometimes, especially pop-ups and huge images in between text I'm trying to read on my tiny screen.

Never

I grew into my angsty adult phase and realized that "free" web content paid by ads is shit because there is no incentive to produce quality - only clickbait.

You get what you pay for. The person doing the paying gets what they paid for. With ads, you don't pay for anything, but the ad company pays for something. What are you getting? Shitty clickbait.

Kill ad funded content

If you're not willing to run a server using pocket change from a real job or put up a paywall you shouldn't have a website. You have nothing worth putting on the internet.

You'll never convince us to disable our adblockers ever again. EVER. So don't even bother

>tfw Sup Forums no longer needs ads and can survive on passbux until the end of time

I selectively unblock ads on sites that don't use excruciatingly annoying ones.

If it's a text ad, unblocked.
If it's a picture or even gif ad, unblocked.

If there's so many it slows down my computer, blocked.
If it contains audio, blocked.
If it blocks my videos, blocked. (I would unblock SOME YouTube ads if AdBlock had a way to unblock only text ads. I don't care about overlay ads, but I will NOT sit through preroll ads or things that cut my videos. On my channel, I only activate overlay ads and cards. I don't use the skippable/non-skippable ones)

But, like sites I've unblocked:
Sup Forums
listentoyoutube
google
bing
wired.com
some wallpaper site

>I was 15.
You have to be at least 18 to browse this site.

>Many of the world's largest Internet companies, like Google and Facebook, rely heavily on advertising to finance their online empires.
Guess who doesn't block people using adblockers? Google and Facebook. Because companies pay them up front to advertise for them. They don't make money off clicks, they use that model to pay people who sign up to their advertising services.

This post was beautifully written.

quora.com/What-is-the-percentage-of-Internet-users-that-employ-AdBlock-Plus-or-similar-ad-blocking-plugins

forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2013/08/21/use-of-ad-blocking-is-on-the-rise/#4d4c0ed496bd

It's apparently not as high as I thought.

>Case 1. The market is based on the actual following of links.
Well, I personally have a zero percent chance of clicking any ad. So, if I accidentally click on an ad, there has been a mistake. Someone earned money that they didn't deserved based on a technicality. I should be allowed to block ads, because that will allow me to avoid misclicking ads, and therefore the system will be more just on a whole if I do. It is ethically better that I block all ads.

>Case 2: The market is based on the potential to click on ads: they just want the opportunity to present you with the ad in hopes that you will click on it.
I have a zero percent chance of clicking on any ad, so once again, any money gained by showing me said ads was earned on the unfounded and false the pretense that there was some likelihood I would click on the ads. Someone is unjustly charging someone else based on an incorrect assumption about me. It is ethically better that I block all ads.

What's going to be their next scam, convincing me that it's my civic duty to click on the ads? And how about the new wave of civic duties after that, to insert my credit card number? To sign on the dotted line?

>Some people have a strange disconnect where they think that service providers can do anything and you just have to accept it.
They've been trained to be slaves.

Web is a pull medium, not a push medium. I merely decline to request ads.

>realizing web content isn't free

Then why am I not being charged for it? If you have something worth selling you put a price on it and people buy it.

The reason "web content" creators wont do this is because their created content is 90% shit nobody with a fully developed frontal lobe would pay for and often they steal/copy it from elsewhere.

Also serving ads, collecting data without permission and serving malware should be a criminal offence.

Nobody on their cellphones use Firefox Mobile.

This is a lie.

I don't like being advertised to. I've never been influenced by an online ad so I block them because I find them annoying and they would be useless to me anyway. I do not care at all if other parties potentially miss out on adbux. Plus, you know, the major security reasons.

>the implicit contract
nigger, I didnt agree to any of this.
You wanted to make a website, you pay the bills for it.
Dont like it, suck my balls. The internet wasn't made to be your money machine.

>It only takes one zero-day for someone to take over your PC from a rogue ad.
that applies to anything

If the website had anything worth paying for they would use a subscription model to generate income.
Look at ad fueled tv, they can't make you watch the ads, but they can make the channel subscription only.

As a Web Dev, I have some info for you, m8.

>Well, I personally have a zero percent chance of clicking any ad
Advertising hosts make money even if you VIEW the ad (or rather, it displays in the page. You don't gotta click shit)

>Someone earned money that they didn't deserved based on a technicality
It's not whether the host actually gets the advertiser more customers. Advertisers KNOW that not all clicks result in customers. The host certainly DID earn the revenue, because they did what they applied to do: HOST an ad

>I should be allowed to block ads
I agree with this, IF the ads actually cause you a problem. There's no reason to block innocuous ads that don't slow down the site, don't automatically play videos/audio, and don't block content.
Something off to the side, or a banner you can quickly scroll past, even in-stream ads that pop up but you have no obligation to click, should NOT bother you.

>that will allow me to avoid misclicking ads, and therefore the system will be more just on a whole if I do
This is desperate justification. The advertisers, as I said, already KNOW that some people won't become customers. Advertising is a gamble, but it's a gamble worth taking in many areas.
>It is ethically better that I block all ads.
No, not really. If the site in question doesn't offer dangerous or overly intrusive ads, you're damaging the host's income for a service they are providing.
On the other hand, if the site is clickbait, hosts dangerous ads, or causes a loss in content quality by blocking/interrupting your browsing experience, then I fully understand.
On the next site I'll be launching, I will avoid any video/audio ads at all costs (even though they pay higher), because I don't want to disrupt my users.

>Someone is unjustly charging someone else based on an incorrect assumption
This, also, is false. So, you're telling me, companies that rent billboard space on the highway should only have to pay when they succeed, even with limited space?

If you're the same guy who posts this comment or variations thereof in every adblocking thread that appears on Sup Forums, I would like to thank you for your vigilant and undying commitment.

>people have been changing the channel during ads for decades
>free tv still exists
Myth busted.

>The internet wasn't made to be your money machine.
No, but the World Wide Web was.
The Web was designed, in large part, to accommodate business online.

Don't like it, go use some private network, VPN, or Dark Net

I'm not, I just find the phrase fitting.

Now they all air ads at the same time so changing channels is useless. God I hate TV.

Sounds to me like you should be getting a better contract with your advertiser so that you get paid a negotiated amount monthly based on your visitor rate for hosting their ads rather than letting them sell you short.

That's what every other medium does. Seeing they know that every view doesn't result in a click it shouldn't matter to them whether the ad is displayed or not. If anything, paying your for ads that aren't click loses them money over paying you the same for ads that aren't displayed because they have to pay the bandwidth cost in serving the ad.

It was made to share information. Businesses were welcome on it to do business.. as in sell or buy shit.
What businesses did was sell and buy customers, and make every web page look like time square threw up on the internet.

If the ads weren't so cancerous i wouldn't need adblock

And any responsible person would safeguard their self to prevent being taken advantage of.

This is disgusting. everything is so cluttered and nasty, life is all about making money.
This is a cold dead world.
work, sleep, die.

I have adblock disabled on Sup Forums and sukebei because the ads are non-intrusive and honestly quite funny sometimes.

>walk down the street without a condom on
>get aids from a billboard
Fuck.

(You)
It could have looked nice and clean like this.
This is a place where you can enjoy your life.

New york once looked sorta acceptable, then companies and ads ruined it, just like they are trying to do with the internet.

These companies that are bitching about not being able to ruin the internet, are the same ones that ruined new york, and would ruin pic related just to turn a quick profit.

This!
There is no such thing as "ad blocking". The web is a pull medium, not a
push medium. I merely decline to request ads.

So which one do you want?

I don't and probably will never, and adblock is basically and antivirus this days.

But I enable adsense's, also I white-list pages that I visit a lot that I trust, because they might actually have ads I want to see. But you can't browse the modern internet without one, I mean a chrome extension can basically have access to all the files of your computer, just think about that.

>they might actually have ads I want to see.
Why would you want to see an ad? You got shekels you want to get rid of?

>What businesses did was sell and buy customers, and make every web page look like time square threw up on the internet.
This is only true for some websites. Not every website has like 10K ads/page

>Businesses were welcome on it to do business.. as in sell or buy shit.
Yes, and selling/buying ad space is a legitimate use of it.

>Sounds to me like you should be getting a better contract with your advertiser so that you get paid a negotiated amount monthly based on your visitor rate for hosting their ads rather than letting them sell you short.
I'm pretty sure no one would be selling me short if they only pay for when their ads pop up. Although, I am considering a base fee that covers up to a certain amount for when I institute a secondary system for private advertisers.

>If anything, paying your for ads that aren't click loses them money over paying you the same for ads that aren't displayed because they have to pay the bandwidth cost in serving the ad.
That's a valid point. I would lose money hosting the ads if they're not displayed, but I still have to pay the bandwidth.
After the site grow enough to implement private advertising, as opposed to ad pools, I would consider a base-fee, as I explained.

The content on the net is not worth going through the trouble of bypassing thousands of ads. If anything adblock made the internet a better place because I actually bother to search through the net for somewhat decent content because of no ads. If ads come back again then I will just threat the internet like I used to pre adblock and go back to watching my weekly/monthly AVGN video and call it a day.

>Advertising is a gamble
opinion discarted shitposter, the only reason ads exist is because they work

its called capitalism lol

Oh no

what will I ever do once people start publishing content out of passion rather than a Jewish desire to profit from regurgitated swill

>Not every website has like 10K ads/page
but in a typical day, I dont want to have seen 10k ads.

>its called capitalism lol
the word I use is disgusting, but same thing I guess.

It's not even about the money, for me. I need cash to invest in research. If my sites, apps, and software don't wind up making me a viable pool of money, I can't spend most of it on research.

You could even call what I'm planning to do a "non-profit", but... I'll still profit a /bit/.

>These companies that are bitching about not being able to ruin the internet, are the same ones that ruined New York, and would ruin pic related just to turn a quick profit
New York was always a shithole, even the areas without advertising. I know; I live in New York; it's shit everywhere, no matter where you go.
Better than NJ, though, I'll give it that.
Been to Yonkers for several years. Kinda like it when I was down there.

>would ruin pic related
It's already ruined.
Where's the sky bridges in the mountains and the balance between nature and machine? It's WAY too wide open; I'd be extremely anxious and uncomfortable to walk outside the town there.

>So which one do you want?
As I previously stated, New York is and always was: SHIT.
The comparison is invalid.

The town listed previously has much nicer architecture.

How about my
>pic related

Admittedly, there are areas in Tokyo as well that look like shit because too many ads. But it's BALANCE that matters.
This area balances medium-high ad-space with clean architecture and well-placed trees lining part of the street.

I can find other cities in other countries, too, if you like.
New York, however, is just shit.

t. RacerX

As a fellow web dev if your add comes from a 3rd party host it's getting blocked. No questions asked.

Either serve vetted ads from the same domain you're using, use a subscription system, or stop complaining. If you don't feel comfortable hosting the add under your own domain then why are you even showing it in the first place?

if someone can't survive without ad revenue, their content probably is sub-par and essentially click-bait, eg. 90% of """"""tech news""""""