Literally the best browser ever
Literally the best browser ever
Jonathan Hill
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Brandon Roberts
I agree.
Landon Foster
It's a browser
Dominic Parker
Try opening this with it without any 3rd party software.
Elijah Jenkins
and it's not shit like firefox
Evan Taylor
The best one.
Leo Kelly
Try opening it with a browser thats not third party compared to your OS.
Adrian Robinson
omfg why doesn't it work
Adrian Ward
>tfw can't webm
Anthony Anderson
>Apple logic
>condemn flash and other 3rd party apps
> html5/webms? Who dat?
William Cruz
>can't use 3rd party software
>chrome and firefox is literally 3rd party software
Juan Lewis
that's pretty retarded
you sure got him there, yeah safari has aspergers
Levi Smith
Works in Chrome OS and Android :^)
Nathan Barnes
> watch youtube while browsing Sup Forums
> close youtube tab
> whole Mac freezes
> force shutdown required
> happens every week
> "best browser"
Asher Baker
That's not Opera 12.16
Jordan Reyes
.webm support when? It's not fair that the best browser doesn't support it
Chase Howard
Works on my machine.™
Carter Thomas
:^)
Thomas Martinez
Just use the VLC plugin. Safari's only the best on a MacBook.
Jaxon Martinez
Next task, have a good browser.
Colton Flores
Is there any way to fix that?
Nolan White
yes there is
Jonathan Hughes
How?
Tyler Sullivan
fuck tim cook
Ayden Morales
Edge is good, at least for me, it runs better than Chrome and Firefox combined, if only it didn't have those shit animations.
Michael Turner
I've been using Safari on my rMBP because it doesn't rape my battery life as much as Chrome.
Here's a quick performance test between Safari/Chrome/Firefox. Make sure that each browser has a warm cache too:
>go to boards.Sup Forums.org/v/archive
>see how long it takes for page to load and to be able to start scrolling down
>after the page is loaded, try scrolling down quickly
>go back to the top and click the 'Replies' field
>see how long it takes to sort
Safari is a nice browser and all, but it is sluggish on that shit. Firefox and especially Chrome seem to perform nicely.
Levi Morgan
it's good because of the content blocker feature
Chase Parker
I didn't expect such good feedback here. so not all apples are shit?
I always ditched it in my hackintosh
Carson Morris
qt cat desu
Christian Young
If I buy a Mac I can't view fucking webms on Safari?
Michael Martinez
Yep, and sometimes opening/closing/switching tabs is a bit laggy (especially HTTPS Sup Forums tabs have a noticeable delay). There's also a delay on HTML5 audio (try clicking the SANIC on Safari and compare to Chrome/Firefox erogames.website).
Jeremiah Edwards
It requires os x, a shitty operating system. Even windows 10 is better.
Aaron Wright
I wonder why Safari gets so much better battery life though. Is it because they use magical, special APIs that only Apple knows of (or only Apple knows how to leverage best), or is it because performance is kinda ass sometimes?
Benjamin Phillips
Software designed for specific hardware
Ian King
I hear this meme a lot: "Apple software works great with Apple hardware because they're designed in-tandem."
Okay, I buy that. But in what ways? Nobody has ever specified how or why in detail.
Asher Morris
Don't really know about the performance, but I think the audio delay is a result of not preloading audio from tags.
Ryan Jones
Because it's not public information.
Carson Jones
VLC plug in. Pretty buggy, but better than chrome/firefox.
Blake Young
Because what isn't public information?
If you mean private APIs, then where's the proof it even uses private APIs at all?
Joseph Gonzalez
Hello user, I'm not the guy you're responding to, but I have an inkling on why it's the case.
The problem with designing a software system is backwards compatibility. The comfy app that you're writing on Android & iOS has to work on everything from an iPhone 3 to a Galaxy s7, so you're targetting a lot of different hardware configurations, and you spend a lot of time in Xamarin/Java/C++/whatever just definign different scenarios for different platforms.
Do you know what happens when your app doesn't work on a blackberry? Some douchelord makes a post somewhere going "REASONS WHY COMPANY XYZ CANT ENGINEER SOFTWARE!!! LOOK!! THIS SHIZ DOESNT EVEN WORK"
This is why it's easier to target a game to xbox One than PC. This is why PC ports often suck.
By limiting scope, you can focus on delivering quality customer experience on a single platform, rather than providing an even experience on multiple platforms at once.
Anthony Taylor
user you were replying to here..
... wat? Your reply doesn't address the *specific ways* in which Apple designs their software to be more performant/better on battery, and is more-or-less just reiterating "Apple makes their software and hardware work well together since they control both".
I don't think I'll ever get any specifics to this myth.
Joshua Williams
You'll never get specifics without becoming a software engineer at apple tbqh, I'm just trying to give insight on how the software process is.
Imagine this. You're an engineer, and you can do three tasks in a sprint (unit of time before you have to demo a feature). This is what your tasks can be:
Cross platform:
Implement feature on Android
Implement feature on iOS
Test feature on both
Apple exclusive:
Implement feature on iOS
Test feature on iOS
Optimize feature on iOS
You simply spend MORE man hours on the one ecosystem, you become an expert with that ecosystem, and you can learn ways to use the APIs in more performant ways by sticking to one ecosystem.
It's like doing
while ((*a)++ = (*b)++);[\code]
to do memcpy instead of an explicit loop.
Jordan Reed
Same user here (and sorry if I may have seemed harsh in my last reply).
I think the concept of Apple's software only having to target one piece of hardware -- and thus being more-performant, etc. -- was implicitly understood and encoded in the statement "Apple controls both their software and hardware".
I don't know what to say aside from, again, there's no details and you're just repeating what everyone already knows. And it kinda feels like you're just saying fluff to show-off the fact you're a mobile developer.
David Cook
Sure I'm showing off anonymously. Yay me.
If you don't like my answers, you might be able to find some blogs from ex apple devs that can help more. Then post them here and we'll both know more :)
At the end of the day, true optimizations come at the instruction level. Less instructions to the CPU for the same work = less heat, less energy and more battery. Because they don't HAVE to expose their inner guts, they can just write in-house kernel drivers to help them out on hard stuff.
I heard that Nintendo systems are built to demonstrate Mario games, the same that mario games are built to demonstrate Nintendo hardware. It's probably the same deal.
Dev team : "We need this Api all the time"
Kernel team : "Okay, we'll optimise it"
Kernel team : "We can't optimise this because there isn't an opcode for (insert random thing)"
HW team : "That's either physically impossible or we'll put extra money into more nand gates."
I'm actually an embedded dev btw
Isaiah Wright
Same user here, yet again.
Also an embedded dev here, so maybe that's why your comments were unsatisfactory, because it's kinda telling me basic stuff I already know very well. Though maybe I underestimate their value for others who might not know as much.
Anyhow, cheers, friend. Was nice chatting.
Brayden Morris
webm is only used on Sup Forums
Thomas Butler
same to you
Joshua Mitchell
I find it confusing and annoying as hell. first you have to turn off all the keyloggers, then turn off msn. When you open a new tab, the bar is in the middle of the screen, so confusing.
I would also lack the ability to share the bookmarks, tabs, etc. with my phone and other devices. Same would go for hand-off.
Asher Peterson
>what is imgur and gfycat
Joseph Rodriguez
They also encode H.264 so it doesn't matter
Andrew Ward
Anyone miss Safari back when it used to be on Windows?
Parker Wilson
Enjoy hard refreshing everything
Jack Flores
The fact that Apple software runs better on Apple devices proves that
Sebastian Bell
nope, just get an addon
Easton Jackson
yeah Im sad it's not on windows. It's a bit conflicting since I use my macbook for work when I'm not at home with my desktop
Thomas Smith
Safari 4 worl on Windows
Sebastian Morris
opera next might be a lot like chrome + the battery power savings of safari, so i heard on Sup Forums yesterday.
Parker Reed
this is not firefox nor nakedbrowser.
just kys appleshill.
Thomas Allen
nah, apple is just bad at software development, even at their own devices, and it seems like it's keep getting worse at it lately.
so how to you expect them to deliver proper software on stuff that isn't applel.
See:
-OS updates (both iOS/OSX) that fuck up the whole system and make the devices unusable
-funny bugs like the file:/// one, or the one with the calendar
-big Security flaws - CVEdetail report (and they take a fuck huge of time to fi them, if they even fix them)
-itunes
-FinalCut
Charles Stewart
Best browser coming through.
Juan Taylor
>posting the botnet
Hunter Lee
look up the definition of botnet first.
Jacob Barnes
>os x and ios
el capitan was a bit of a step down in some aspects, but still added a bunch of useful features. ios has never been any better, unless you mean the "planned obsolescence", which just is older hardware trying to keep up with all the additions.
>file:///
what bug? i am intrigued?
>calendar
you mean the one on ios that breaks the os?
>big security flaws
every major os has them
>itunes
what? it works perfectly.
>finalcut
the software is known to be high end for movie production, go check it out in hollywood. literally nothing wrong with it.
Levi Long
>-OS updates (both iOS/OSX) that fuck up the whole system and make the devices unusable
Never had that happen. Have had it happen with my Samsung and HTC phones.
Josiah Sanchez
>VLC plug in. Pretty buggy, but better than chrome/firefox.
>VLC plug in
>better than chrome/firefox
hahah fuck no.
Alexander Watson
If you were an embedded dev you would understand exactly why single target optimization works. Fucking NEET
Logan Brooks
I'm not gonna lie, I love Safari. It has really grown on me the past couple of years. If it weren't for muh webms I'd switch to using it full-time. Firefox is a shitshow in comparison.
Lucas Jenkins
playing the webm in a seperate tab will prevent the main one from getting too resource heavy.
check power/resource consumption of safari vs chrome
Bentley Gray
>el capitan was a bit of a step down in some aspects, but still added a bunch of useful features. ios has never been any better, unless you mean the "planned obsolescence", which just is older hardware trying to keep up with all the additions.
their stuff only really works on the newest products, but sometimes not even then. see Wi-Fi issues.
all the others are fucked, no wifi at all, ethernet does not work, performance slow down (especially on iphones), battery drain... etc.
Also it seems like they don't do any testing lately.
eweek.com
engadget.com
>what bug? i am intrigued?
thenextweb.com
>you mean the one on ios that breaks the os?
9to5mac.com
>every major os has them
yeah but apple is leading. and also leading in not fixing them, or not fixing them fully.
cvedetails.com
>what? it works perfectly.
what? itunes is literally the worst software apple ever produced.
blog.vellumatlanta.com
imore.com
consequenceofsound.net
>the software is known to be high end for movie production, go check it out in hollywood. literally nothing wrong with it.
is that why most hollywood production companies switched to avid or lightworks, since apple fucked it up with the updates.
Brody Johnson
>HTC
>Samsung
there is your problem. BE thankful that you even got an update with these shitty OEMS. HTC and Samsung both bloat the shit out of Android, it isn't even android anymore. more like some fucking abortion of it.
if you don't get their flagship you are fucked even more.
>running two program instead of one for one and the same thing will magically make it less resource heavy for one of the two.
wow you are some special kind of retard
Ethan Anderson
How did you fixed the webm format on Edge?
This thing doesn't work for me:
tools.google.com
James Smith
>wifi issues
i have an early 2013 rmbp and a 2010 mbp i use for server stuff from now and then, neither have ever had wifi issues, i guess its just some devices?
>itunes bug
thats only one bug, had to do with apple music, didn't experience myself, was very rare. the bug is already fixed. yes its annoying as hell, but if you dont keep backups then that's your own fault. time machine got my back.
Jackson Garcia
they are both in safari, no second program. its a plugin to run it in a seperate tab, only loads in when prompted or needed.
Angel Martin
Please explain for those of us not in-the-know user
Isaac Turner
>their stuff only really works on the newest products
Bullshit. They're still supporting the iPhone 4S in iOS9.
>Also it seems like they don't do any testing lately.
The yearly release cycle is retarded, yea. It's all been half baked ever since.
Brandon Foster
Firefox.
Done.
Brandon Powell
>Safari 4
wow
Kevin Barnes
>Bullshit. They're still supporting the iPhone 4S in iOS9.
True, but it runs like total shit and is literally unusable as daily driver.
The Performance and battery life went better with every update on my nexus.
and i can support myself with updates if google stops to officialy support my phone.
Gavin Martinez
>check power/resource consumption of safari vs chrome
why? I'm not running this in a celeron made in 2005 with 1gb of ram, honestly don't give a fuck about the amount of ram that a cat/porn webm could take.
hell, even in my shittiest laptop I don't get more than 2.5gbs of ram used in general while shitposting.
Nathan Perez
You have a 5 year old Nexus?
Ethan Lee
>Lirik
Oliver Long
>on my 16GB ram rmbp
>takes 3 secs to close a tab
Kevin Wood
How do I reproduce this?
Isaiah Williams
>True, but it runs like total shit
No it doesn't.
>The Performance and battery life went better with every update on my nexus.
Opposite of my friend who swears by those shits. He upgrades every couple of years because updates fuck his shit up.
>and i can support myself with updates
????
Easton Perez
I'm still waiting.
Kayden Anderson
You gon die waiting.
Christopher Jackson
> things that never happen
Camden Cooper
Mac's can't right click, and Safari is expensive. Chrome feeds my kids, and protects my wife's honour whilst I'm away. Google would never hurt me, Google loves me. Finder burnt down my shed once, fucking Apple.
Zachary Ward
The worst. It's the new IE. Holding back all the progress.
Literally the only browser with no interest in service workers, houdini and web components, which are the most important new technologies we have.
Also damn bugged. Especially the IOS version is fucked up.
Asher Hughes
For the sake of argument, ES6 compatibility was completed in Webkit before any other major browser.
kangax.github.io
> most important new technologies
Not even fully spec'd
Henry Robinson
Custom Elements & Shadow Dom V1 are done.
Brandon Wood
>No support for WebP
into the trash it goes
Ethan Clark
test
Benjamin Reyes
Post evidence of Apple working on the future of the web and the army of naysayers goes silent.
Jordan Lewis
That's a strange way to spell worst.