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Have to install arch for class. got base installed and the like (i.e. finished beginners guide). what are the best post-installation steps? bit of a linux newbie.
Jayden Cox
Fuck, KDE5 got wrecked again. As soon as I unplug my 2nd monitor, Plasma just shits itself, and remains shat, even after a reboot. Only plugging my monitor back in, makes it return to normal, just as if nothing had happend. Problem is: It's a fucking laptop, so I need to be able to use it without its external monitor. Last time this occured, only a reinstall fixed it. Now that is a known bug, but seems like it wont get fixed, and I cant fucking have a work machine, where I am afraid of every single display unplugging fucking my machine, and costing me a few hours of reinstalling and configuring shit. So, what do? Switch distros? I'm on fedora, and used to quite like it, but supposedly, Suse has a few KDE patches of their own still. Used to use suse back in the days where you actually could buy a box full of DVD'S and handbooks, and it was quite comfy, but somwhere along the way, they kinda lost their focus. Worth returning to? Ubuntu? Tried it once, and I was appalled by it. I am all for an easy, just-werks-out-of-the-box experience, but that shit is so dumbed down that I actually felt offended. CentOS? I really, really want to go back to KDE4, instead of that pre-alpha mess that is 5, but the fact that rpmfusion is dead means that I wont get a lot of software, unless I compile myself (fuck that) or enable some one-man-autist-show repos, that might insert whatever into my system. Something else I am missing? Or switch DEs? But I already tried gnome, and it was as insulting as ubuntu. And if I have to spend hours to figure out in what fucking syntax I have to write the config files of some one-man-autist-show DE, where I have to do everything manually, I'd rather waste those hours fixing/reinstalling KDE, since that actually works (if it works, that is…) Or just give up, and reinstall windows? I still have an 8pro licence lying around, that I can either still "upgrade" to 10 (…probably not), or "downgrade" to 7pro.
Andrew Davis
Arch Linux with Plasma 5. Just works.
Lincoln Jones
>Arch Linux >Just works. Nope. I seriously cant use a distro that has the explicit philosophy of having you doing everything by hand. I need my PC for work, not for causing me more work.
Sebastian Garcia
got gnome up and running. how do I start ricing?
Thomas Howard
I'm this guy. I was able to install Fedora 23 with no frills by selecting just the SSD. Now I'll set up the swap, /var partition maybe and what not.
I'm on my week off Sup Forums, so I won't be monitoring the thread, but I'll check for replies every couple of hours.
Cheers, and stay friendly.
Joseph Lee
You can try Linux Mint :)
Tyler Jackson
I want to do this. Basically, the top panel has an application launcher menu, a taskbar, a tray, and a clock. For maximized applications, the titlebar disappears and the window buttons move to the corner of the panel. Or the window controls could be there permanently and just control the focused window, either way works.
Is there a DE that will allow me to accomplish this? I tried with GNOME, but customizing GNOME is a nightmare since every single thing you want to do requires a buggy extension prone to breaking between versions, and they don't necessarily play nicely with each other. There was a MATE applet that could put the window buttons in a panel, but it's dead and broken in recent MATE versions.
Nathaniel Martin
Does anyone know if UDP socket states are the same as TCP socket states? I'm talking about these [1] and compared to what /proc/net/udp reports.
The kernel has an enum for TCP states [2] but there's no equalivent enumartion for UDP states.
lightdm breaks all the time and i enjoy switching between DE, what do I use instead
Easton Ramirez
startx & changing the DE within ~/.xinitrc
Justin Watson
what if i'm not autistic?
Wyatt Price
Using a DE when you're literally the only user using your computer is in fact autistic.
Ayden Rogers
>using a DE is autistic
literally what? we should be using terminal only to not be autistic? what the fuck are you saying?
Lucas Anderson
You don't need to use the terminal when you don't use a DE. You drop a single line into your xinit and that's it. Don't play retarded.
Asher Hernandez
not even him, just trying to get what you are saying.
but whatever, doesn't matter.
Andrew Reyes
gnome is dumb running xfce now. got lightdm working which is the furthest I've ever gotten with arch.
is installing open box as simple as pacman -S openbox -------------------------------------- openbox --replace ?
Joshua Collins
I guess user is talking about a DM (Display Manager)
A DM makes sense for two reasons: - multiple users use the computer - you have multiple window managers you want to select from via GUI
If you're the only user and only use one DE (or WM), you don't need a display manager, since everything it would manage is one session. This sessen can be started automatically by dropping startx in your shellrc.
If I want a tray icon in arch for wifi how is that done? through netctl or xfce?
Kayden Torres
Debian's kernel is better. It comes without blobs but you can load proprietary firmware.
Joshua Taylor
Netctl is just a manager, you need a widget like nm-applet.
Wyatt Garcia
DELET THIS
Owen Williams
this pic triggers the venezuelians
Jace Wilson
>don't shit in the streets >use unix
Memes aside, the only true (trademarked) unix is OS X. GNU and the Linxu kernel were rewritten with the idea of unix, nothing more or less.
Jayden Thomas
in xfce when I minimize something it creates a desktop icon of it which is ugly how can I stop this, or what can I google?
Landon Kelly
Linux-ck
Connor Perez
>no thread title
Brody Sanchez
(you)
Cooper Russell
hes right bro
Jace Jenkins
that he is right or not is irrelevant. Gnu + linux is a unix like system. Gnu's not unix. No one ever said that gnu+linux was a true unix system. If he wants to talk about OS X, he is free to do so in another threads which isn't dedicated to gnu linux
Parker Diaz
Look at OPs picture retard.
Isaac Smith
Sup Forumsuise , if i use an nvidia/intel laptop with nvidia drivers installed but choose intel with prime-select, is the nvidia card turned off or just not doing any work but still using some power?
Brody Martinez
UDP is a datagram protocol, it is stateless. They kernel could make up state about whether there is someone listining on a socket of time since traffic seen but I don't think it does. The conntrack subsystem might though.
Colton Sanders
Alright, I'll just disregard the state field that the proc filesystem displays for UDP connections then.
Carson Fisher
I finally got it. I had some trouble with Gnome not shutting off/on properly so I scratched it and installed from a new iso with KDE. Works like a charm.
Christopher Lee
Or I should say sockets since it's connectionless :-)
Carson Barnes
How do I get an additional dns server in my resovl.conf? resolv.conf.head doesn't seem to work
Colton Flores
>Suse has a few KDE patches of their own still. Used to use suse back in the days where you actually could buy a box full of DVD'S and handbooks, and it was quite comfy, but somwhere along the way, they kinda lost their focus. Worth returning to? God Fuckin Damit Its Even Worse !!!!!
Seriously, KDE5 is an utter mess. Now plugin and unplugin monitors does not kill plasma, but I just get random crashes (which it recovers from) all the time, and occasionally, I loose some windows, mostly terminals that are running fucking zypper. And it sucks to have an update running, that might or might not work, causing god knows what kinds of havoc.
Currently trying mate. Looks like shit, but seems to work, but it cant fucking connect to my wifi, since it seems to colide with the KDE setting for it.
nm-applet needs network manager. there's wicd-gtk, but wicd is abandoned and deprecated.
Julian Cox
I had to disable UEFI secure boot to install propietrary Nvidia drivers on Ubuntu 16.04. How do I enable it again? And do I need to enable it?
Juan Reyes
What's the best distro for my shitty 2007 macbook?
I've read about some of them struggling with power management and whatnot. Want something that just twerks for shitposting and jewtube.
Jacob Miller
OCDfag here. Can I rename .Xresources to .xresources and simply call it every time via xrdb .xresources, or will it break something?
Luke Turner
Just make a symlink called xresources.
If you don't mind it appearing in non-hidden directory lists then I'd leave out the . too, less typing.
Liam Edwards
hey guys I need some help
I've written a font.conf file, but I dont know where to place it currently it's in ~/.config/fontconfig/fonts.conf is it the right place? I have the feeling it's either ignored or at the wrong place
teach me how to do it right
Brody Harris
That'd bother me too much since I usually list hidden files inclusive. (Why must X be such a special snowflake?!)
Hudson Bell
Also: Nice quads.
Joseph Campbell
checked
Jacob Moore
Yes.
Alternativly, use the deprecated .xdefaults file. It's not recommended, but supported.
Jonathan Rogers
Thanks.
Nathan Sanders
Simply drop xrdb randomfilename into your .xinit or .bashrc
Wyatt Foster
I almost can't believe I wasted quads on such a hacky workaround
Another idea, why don't you just make an alias for it in your shell, maybe xres or xdb?
Michael Smith
went to use open box and now my windows don't snap at the side and the terminal is no longer tranparent. cool ricing guise.
Zachary Powell
>cool ricing guise. Since you want to shit on it, I don't see any reason to help you. Enjoy. :^)
Brandon Wright
this is a friendly linux thread be nice.
Liam Lewis
I'm still trying to be a good example.
- You need compositing, because OpenBox is a lightweight WM that doesn't support it nativly. Solution: install compton
I want to start learning C++, and since I use GNU/Linux, I wanted to ask - what's a good IDE to use? Codeblocks?
Xavier Morris
Unconventionalfag here: Don't use an IDE. Learn vim and compile external (gcc, etc). The benefits are: You don't only learn how to write correct code, you also learn how to please compilers and how to program in lightspeed.
Jaxson Thomas
Some thoughts.
Sublime: May help you alot, but since it's proprietary, it's just another uncomfy dick in the ass
Atom: IMHO better than Sublime, but since it's based on JS it's slow as fuck and you will get in trouble when you try to work with large files. Also: Shithub - nuff said
Geany is nice. I've discovered no bad things about it so far.
And then there are Vim and Emacs. Choice is easy: You're from planet earth? Use Vim. Not? Use Emacs.
Everything else: Drop it.
Isaac Jones
When will there be an official Ubuntu derivative for Cinnamon so we can recommend that to newbies instead of Mint?
Luis Baker
I'm not a programmer expert, I'm still learning a lot, but I think everyone should start with a dumb text editor, the command line and a compiler. I tried to learn programming a while ago when microsoft released their free version of visual studio, and the build process of software stayed mysterious to me until I went on linux and started to use the command line to compile LaTeX documents. Also I forgot basically everything of C#, since VS with its completion and debugging tools don't force you to write correctly nor to know the exact syntax or keywords. Now, when I learn a language, I actually learn it, and the text editor doesn't think for me.
Anyway, vim and emacs can act as IDEs. Also learn the interactive features of your shell, they're really helpful.
Samuel Stewart
>derivative IMHO derivatives are nice toys to play with, but nothing to run as daily driver. Next to this, I think that Mate is pretty much more comfy for refugees than Cinnamon.
Blake Adams
Afaik the free VS is botnetted with telemetry. Some days ago there was a thread about that topic.
I agree with learning programming via dumb-editors tho.
Matthew Adams
Got an issue on my arch install do you want to help troubleshoot or I go to arch IRC?
>issue on reboot theres no internet connection, I can ping 8.8.8.8, but not www.google.com if I sudo pm-suspend, and wake up from it, everything works
Alexander Thompson
What's the best way to force a 1920x1080 resolution on a 1360x768 monitor? tried xandr with the outputs from "cvt" and it looks like dogshit, is there a linux equivalent for AMD custom resolutions on windows?
Eli Watson
xrandr can do this. You just need to create a new mode if the desired resolution isn't available by default. Check the manpage and the arch wiki for more infos: wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr
There are also a lot of frontends for xrandr, but since I never used one of them, I can't recommend one.
Andrew Carter
Yeah but it looks like trash, like blurry as hell or even out of the frame, I even tried adding the resolution to 10-monitor.conf in xorg.config.d but doesn't help
Brody White
If it looks blurry, try to lower the DPI.
Hunter Anderson
Join #flt (see OP) and ping the sleeping fags (call their names).
Carson Ross
Why didn't the IRC level up to fglt yet? Please no 150 shitposts now.
Matthew Garcia
its called downgrade also you started to shitpost
Mason Young
>IMHO derivatives are nice toys to play with, but nothing to run as daily driver. Maybe for you and me, but noobs want something that just werks out of the box. I want something I can recommend in good faith that will make the transition as comfortable for them as possible, and out of all the current DEs, Cinnamon is by far the best for that purpose IMO. >Next to this, I think that Mate is pretty much more comfy for refugees than Cinnamon. In some ways, maybe, but it's feeling pretty old-school these days. I don't think it's really that inviting for former Windows 7+ users, especially without Compiz. It'd be fine for someone who misses Windows XP.
Juan Mitchell
>RMS is eating shit from his foot >RMS is a pedophile >GPL restricts freeedom >FSF is a cult Meh. Seriously. We aren't 12 year olds.
Christopher Gutierrez
I usually recommend Fedora since it's not as satanic as Ubuntu (spying, Microsoft BBF) and not Mint (security desaster).
Noah Butler
What about those Arch installers like Evo/lition, Archiitect, Antergos etc? Anyone got experiences to share? How's Manjaro, SSL memes aside?
Aaron Nguyen
What's the package that changes the terminal colors and make everything look uniform and use the same colors? also how do people change the terminal so indea of a ~ it shows some icon or some pretty shit like that
Leo Collins
I've used Architect a couple of times. It does what it says on the tin. Honestly I probably wouldn't bother installing Arch "manually" these days, simply to save time.
Jordan Gray
Do bugs ever get fixed? I just searched the web for a bug I was having and the bug was filed on launchpad. The first post was made back in the first month of 2014. It's for a bug for the Xfce panel menu on Xubuntu. When ever people bash linux saying how it's always full of bugs, linux users just say "hurr durr you're too retarded to google and file bug reports", but people are doing just that and they still blame the user.
Adam Lopez
Some do. Xfce is pretty much a dead project, though, so I wouldn't expect much change anymore.
Luke Morales
Generally: Only if the dev of program X wants to fix it. That's the spirit of GNU/Linux, but part of the spirit is that people actually fix it right at the time the bug is reported (usually they point to a patch). Always tinker through bug reports and search git for patches and bug fixes.
Gabriel Green
I wouldn't enable it unless you are familiar with signing kernel modules
Levi Cooper
>Xfce is pretty much a dead project I keep hearing this, but the repo at git.xfce.org/ seems active enough.
Hudson Taylor
Reminder we have threads on /t/ about
ported videogames tutorials on system administration
Robert Miller
~ % ping 8.8.8.8 ping: socket: Operation not permitted ping: socket: Operation not permitted Where did I go wrong?
Jayden Cruz
sudo chmod u+s `which ping`
Jackson Hall
S?
Josiah Watson
That picture with the captions and the lady is cringy as fuck
Jackson Hill
>i want to use arch for days, weeks, months, but i can't sit down 10 minutes to install it how it's meant to be installed
How to spot a pretentious poser who doesn't need the operating system in the first place.
Evan Brooks
I have a 16gb USB stick and a macbook running 10.7.
Unetbootin doesn't start, I guess my own is too old.
What options do I have to install Ubuntu or debian onto that USB stick?
I tried unetbootin from my winblows box but I can't boot and install to and from the same stick.
I also created a persistent file to store settings and whatnot but that doesn't seem to work either.
