Alright niggas, it's time to fucking fight

Alright niggas, it's time to fucking fight.
Is Win 10 a worth upgrade over Win 7 or is it just buzzwording?

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It's definitely better than Windows 7 but it's not worth getting gagged by Microsoft.

any windows version after 95 is a botnet anyway, might as well upgrade for Dirext X 12

Upgrading to it fixed the lag issue with 7 on second monitor. I don't like what they've done with it otherwise. Might as well stick with it until I can afford a new graphics card.

Wait, i thought you could disable the retarded spyware bullshit of Microsoft.

Prior to 8 it was always opt-in. In 8 you have to opt-out. 10 doesn't let you disable everything and even the enterprice edition which shouldn't be doing that keeps connecting to those servers.

Fuck me then.

This. It's not like you can have any privacy online anyways.

CAnt you just block everything with a peerblock?

Im seriously thinking about upgrading to win10 just to get dx12.

Getting rx480 soon

Is there actually a way to stop all the spyware shit and have a secure OS with Win10?
I see programs to deactivate the telemetry stuff all the time, but does it actually work or will MS still fap to the weird porn on my PC?

If you want most advantages (except DX12) that windows 10 has to offer without installing that buggy mess, just install windows 8.1 with Start8

What is the current opinion on W10 LTSB N edition? How easy is it to update?

It only gets security updates which is what it should get by design.

>the hoops you fools will jump through to run Windows 10
>so stuck it's not even funny
>stupid fucking people will be the death of us all

I found that Win 10 *is* nicer to use. The problem is that it's just one big piece of Spyware for MS.

Unfortunately, staying on 7 doesn't look like it will save you from their nosiness ... recent updates to 7 make it seem that they are pushing spyware abilities there, as well.

I tried Win10 for a day. Got an enterprise n version. It had fucking candy crush, minecraft and xbox icons on the start menu, which you can't remove without third party tools. Also somehow managed to break the wireless adapter while turning off telemetry, and deleting cortana prevents you from searching with the start menu.

Fuck it all. All I want is MS Office and Creative Suite without having to deal with Wine and its associated bullshit.

You can turn that shit off if you check the old wxg

It isn't, unless you really need workspaces.

>Disable automatic updates
Win10 cucks btfo

only in enterprise or education version

Think of the reason why you even started a thread to ask this - and then consider why people continually ask and get the same mixed response. If the consensus was overall positive about Windows 10, there wouldn't be so many doubts needing answered.

>which you can't remove without third party tools
You can if you aren't completely retarded - it's a one line powershell command to remove each of those. Not defending Microsoft, because putting XBox in enterprise software is pretty much the dumbest thing I could imagine, but don't say things that aren't true.

>and deleting cortana prevents you from searching with the start menu.
If you truly deleted cortana.exe it would - Windows search all goes through Cortana now. Disabling Cortana in Enterprise still lets regular search function perfectly normally and Microsoft isn't phoning home (checked with Wireshark because I didn't trust MS)

>Also somehow managed to break the wireless adapter while turning off telemetry
I'm sensing a pattern of "you don't know what the fuck you're doing"

All that being said, in regards to OP, there is pretty much zero reason to upgrade to Windows 10 over Windows 7 right now. There aren't any real advantages that mean anything that I can think of, and I wouldn't recommend any version other than Win10 Enterprise. And even with that there are decisions that feel kinda gross. I've also had some driver issues on my laptop (where I have no option other than Win10). Still using Win7 on my other PCs.

>You can if you aren't completely retarded
Elaborate

Get-AppxPackage *[default app name goes here]* | Remove-AppxPackage

Google for the appropriate app names. You can even remove the Windows store itself that way.

No, you can't.

Yes, you can.
Get-AppxPackage *windowsstore* | Remove-AppxPackage

What the fuck? These have seriously never been allowed before. What the hell are they doing?

I have no idea what you're talking about. You've been able to do this since the preview.

I gotchuu OP
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alltho windows 10 would use spyshit among us 24/7, what would it matter among us norms fags compared to tech nerds?

You seriously don't mind getting EVERYTHING you do on your personal pc(not files but what you do) to somewhere constantly?

Reminder Sup Forums that if you downgraded from 7/8.1 to windows 10, your original key will still work. You can reinstall 7/8.1 if you have the original installer disk and the key will still work.

Windows 7 has just 3.5 years of support left. After that it becomes le XP 2.0, zombie hole OS hated by software devs.

If for nothing else, for that reason I did the free upgrade for every PC where it was possible.

What are you even talking about? I just right clicked the icon and removed it.

ITT: Pajeets

No meming, Win8.1 was the last good Windows OS.

Can render photoshop better, and with classic shell, keeps the win7 charm

Source for that? First I'm hearing about Opt-out spyware in 8/8.1

>which shouldn't be doing that keeps connecting to those servers.

"Connect to servers" doesnt automatically mean spying.

Indeed, the telemetry component is always active, yet in Enterprise/Edu, it can be limited to only machine ID and system ID.

What annoys me is that only those, who paid extra, are allowed to cut off. "Free" upgrade aka "Pro" users, dont.

This debate is getting old. Win Ten has been out for almost a year now. Pretty sure by now either you like Ten or hate it. Real easy choice.
1. Like Win Ten - Install or do an Upgrade from Win 7/8/8.1
2. Hate Win Ten - Stick with whatever OS you got or Run Windows 7 till your motherboard dies. Long as you got plenty of ram/fast CPU you'll be good for a long time. A dead HDD can be replaced, same with a PSU. Now if you want a boot drive past 2TB then your screwed cause the Daz loader hates UEFI bios. Win 7 supports advanced format drives so if you get a pure 4k sector drive down the road you'll still be in good shape.

>What annoys me is that only those, who paid extra, are allowed to cut off. "Free" upgrade aka "Pro" users, dont.
Wait, you're saying if someone actually pays for 10 they can turn telemetry off?
Or were you talking about the Enterprise edition?

About Enterprise.

I mean, as a student, I get free copy of Edu (fancy named Enterprise) anyway, but still.

Shit, thanks for reminding me I get free M$ shit from uni.
I forgot they gave out Win 7-10 keys for free if you're going for an IT related degree at my Uni.

If they have the Edu version of 10 then I guess I'm trying out 10 after all.

7 is an almost 10 year old OS. Its ancient and after you run 10 or even 8 for a while and then go back to 7 it feels like a relic.

I feels different but not like a relic.

I was using my laptop last summer for normal work after I got incident with my desktop harddrive for about few weeks, which had 8.1 installed (desktop have 7) and it felt weird at first, but I got used to it. When I had my desktop back at working condition, it felt different to switch back to 7, but I very quickly got back to using it.

I never really liked 8.1.

Windows 7 already was updated to have all the data mining and telemetry that 10 has so there's no point in hanging onto it unless gig don't feel like backing your shit up

>No, you can't.
Why in hell are you people keeping on spewing bullshit that isn't true?

Fuck you dumb idiot.

>Windows 7 already was updated to have all the data mining and telemetry that 10 has

It amazes me that there are still some people that install all updates or leave it to install automatically or dont read the content of each update.

And later they cry that their PC installed Win10 on their own. Since they let it do so...

>You seriously don't mind getting EVERYTHING you do on your personal pc(not files but what you do) to somewhere constantly?
Total bullshit too.

You can easily measure that if you're not completely retarded.

>Get-AppxPackage *windowsstore* | Remove-AppxPackage

Is that a line for windouauz 'terminal'?

>No meming, Win8.1 was the last good Windows OS.
Everyone and his mom complained about W8.1 to hell and back. Funny how you change your opinion like your socks.

Everyone knows that every fuckin windows that came out starts with a lot of problems that get fixed over time. That was the same with ALL windows versions.

It is in no way better
It is a crippled pile of crap and I guarentee it will break after some time of using it. Had it on 3 machines so far and something has always broken soon after

Also my ping in games was always dog shit because of the microsoft spyware shit constantly asking for connections and shit, even when it was "disabled"

>Had it on 3 machines so far and something has always broken soon after
We updated 90 machines in our company and they work well. So get fucked. Linux breaks every second day.

Nice attempt but I don't use Linux
How long you been updated for?

Nice cognitive dissonance, Pajeet. OP was asking about 10 vs. 7 and you throw Linux into the mix. You are a fucking retard and you need to learn to poo in the loo.

You write like an autist. In what shithole do you live? Windows threads on this board attract linux autist like shit attracts flies and this discussion is fuckin stupid.

> Sup Forums a shit as always
Protip: if the only thing you can come up with is a meme, consider not posting at all

Fuck off shill
This unfortunately is what I'm doing on most machines. My next rig will dual boot Debian or opensuse however and I plan on using some free time learning to manually install/build games on Debian. Have a friend who recently pointed out he's able to run basically everygame you might give a fuck about on Debian with a bit of tweaking so I'll be doing that.

Depending on how things go the ultimate goal is to just not use Windows at all or not have it even installed and maybe just run Debian dboot with slack or arch or elementary and not fuck with Windows.


In the mean time though staying on 7 is not really an option except for my crap top/fuck around machine. I have 8.1 on one machine right now but it will shortly be upgraded. Actually worked pretty okay after I mega seriously fucked with it and broke lots of things that is.

By the way I think you can upgrade from win 10 home (lowest tier) to other tiers of 10 for a discount
Going to test it soon attempt going from home to enterprise

>not using KMSPico after using installation key
But it works

It seems snappier for me than 7 was, UI is a bit nicer, and I like the explorer options a bit better.

Also as a hobbyist photographer the new photo viewer tool is awesome, 7's used to die trying to load Raw images.

just use OOSU10 with Spybot Anti-Beacon, install something for the start menu (i use StartIsBack) its working fine, just like windows 7.
it takes some time to set up tho

So if I have the Enterprise/Education edition of 10, can I completely disable telemetry and automatic updates?

got free enterprise license from uni
>faggots

You can't but it bogs your system down like crazy because the windows will just start spamming connection attempts.

Yes, while it is still free.
If it wasn't free; or after the deadline for free upgrade; it's not worth it.

you can disable feedback from settings, telemetry and updates via oosu10
its all good

3 days left to rollback to Win7

If this is possible, then I will go back to 7
if someone can confirm then that would be nice

My plan is to rollback to 7, then make an image of my OS drive, copy it onto a seperate drive then upgrade that to 10, so as to dual boot

would that work?

Microsoft is resorting to trickery in order to make everyone upgrade, and some of them are not even true.

I remember they bragging about how Win10 boots and shutdown faster, but in my experience they just made it so the system "shuts down the GPU" sooner, while everything is still running for a few seconds. My PC is still on for 3-4 seconds after the screen goes blank.

Not to mention they completely remove the F8 boot options, forcing you to go through shitty menus just to boot into recovery mode or to install a unsigned driver.
>b-but it boots so fast there is no time for you to press F8!

Should have just made a system image of your 7 installation.

...

Yes it is worth the upgrade. Install Windows 10 LTSB N. Do not connect to a Microsoft Account. Install Classic shell for the start menu. Delete Telemetry from registry. Go to winaero and codeplex to download your favorite tweaks.

i dont get it

Famps.

How do I roll back to Win7 from 10? I've been using 10 for several months.

Saw that EaseUS was an option or something but I dunno

Get the fuck off /g.

Only Windows 10 enterprise lets you rollback.

Ok, so I can still do a clean install of 7 right?

You can do a clean install of your life. Start by hanging yourself.

Wow.
Rude.

Gosh, that was uncalled for.

hindsight is 20/20

You can do a reset.

Hi. I have a touchscreen convertible laptop and the touch controls are much improved over windows 7. Also better than win8. Aside from that, it starts and shuts down faster. Also got rid of a bunch of blue-screening I had with Win8. Take that as you may.

>Install W10 for kicks.
>Ye' old printer won't work
Fuck the botnet.

I never did, and i'm talking from a pure aesthetic aspect. There's to much hand-holding with windows10, and hand-holding only causes more bloat.

Now you might say "Oh, just get the server version, or the Euro version" but those won't be paired with laptops, now will it?

Just built a new pc and installed 10 pro because of skylake. I really dislike how a network can be set to private only if you have device discovery on. When its public, it seems to be uploading/downloading something on the background all the time even if I turned the p2p win10 stuff off. Now I fear of my 8.1 laptop suddenly turn to 10 if I have both systems on which connect to the same network/router

I told you about the botnet bruh

>or is it just buzzwording?
what does that even mean?
how can you be such a huge faggot, op?

Honestly either switch to Windows 10 or Linux.

Windows isn't worth fighting over.

windows XP