Why's the Arch community so toxic?

Why's the Arch community so toxic?

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Most of them treat it as a personality accessory.

because they are the elite of the linux community and you're inferior

you just don't know how linux works, they know, so shut up

I think most of them are quite young, they have a just-started-college-now-I-know-everything vibe. Could also just be autism in grown adults.

they believe that spending 2 weeks setting up a linux distro makes them superior to everyone else

Dunning Kruger Effect

Linux community itself is elitist and toxic AS FUCK.

They just think to be superior because they installed a somewhat hard to install distro.

Because fat guys are obnoxious. How do i know they were fat? Check at that logo with a fat guy silhouette under it.

Get on with the program plebian.

>toxic
Fuck off back to Sup Forums or /reddit/ or wherever you came from dumb shit.

Debian > Gentoo >>>>> Ubuntu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arch

It's a curse. Arch is actually a pretty good distro and got some popularity back then - but with everything that goes popular, it gets infected with normalfags; people who install it because they've seen it at some screenfetch and want to "be part" of a club that only started to exists because of them.
Not all Arch users are bad. There are even freetards running Arch.

because if you manage to create a workable and enjoyable enviroment out of arch you must be either linus himself or god..

rest of them are just hipsters

Linux is a pleb who has no idea about running a distro or even how to install one. youtube.com/watch?v=qHGTs1NSB1s

Linus*

he is kinda right tho his whole idea of linux was to be easy from bottom to top

Arch is a great distro though

I dont agree, I often go on an arch fr irc channel and people are really friendly

Arch is now what gentoo was at its idiot ricer phase.
Flooded with people that just blindly follow the comprehensive installations introduction because they feel they learn something that way and that it's some sort of badge of honor to go through it. People that don't even know what they want out of a Linux distro but still insist on customizing everything because it gives them the illusion of being a "l33t hacker" and in control.

They pretend their distro is really good but they actually have no idea how linux is built and have no idea how simple arch really is. So they parade around forums acting like linux is something to be elitist over and it is not a tool, and shitting on any other distribution and its userbase. They are usually under 18, very enraged and have nothing useful to say. Never have I seen them to do anything productive with linux and really make use out of the toolset it provides to developers, server admins and enthusiasts, usually they just install a window manager like the rest of us anyway.

> Why is a strawman a strawman?

Nice.

because you say that we're toxic so we become toxic
and also because you keep hating on arch for no reason, to the point of creating threads posting the same memes

Debian has a good community but most of the people who brag about using Gentoo have only been using it for maybe a year or two. Gentoo community is actually very respectable and they don't treat noobs like garbage. I see more younger adults in the Debian community.

Except he didn't do anything to the strawman. He's stated something and asked others to explain it. There would be no purpose to a strawman (which that isn't) if it were phased as a question and only that. You could disagree on the fact (community being toxic), but that does not make the question a logical fallacy.

A strawman would be

>>arch is a good distro
>arch is a trash distro and anyone who disagrees is literally autistic. debian is the best distribution and apt trumps pacman in every single way. Name one reason I'm not correct. Protip: you can't.

That's a strawman post.

I agree, what the fuck is this meme of always critisizing arch ? So fucking retarded…

It was this 39 BMI dude who kept making daily arch hate threads, probably made this one too
best part is that he used unity ubuntu

99% weebs

>hahaha, ubuntu noobs
Thats also what's wrong with arch users

but unity is objectively bad
everyone hates unity, not just arch
also, 39 BMI fatard detected

>because if you manage to create a workable and enjoyable enviroment out of arch
>must be either linus himself or god

I've been doing something similar using another distro. Piecing together software to make a good whole is not a feat of technical knowledge. None of my ee or comp sci knowledge came in to play. It's more a matter of time.

It's things like I wish I could do A.

1. Try 4 different distros/spins that do that.
2. I like the way B does it. Figure out what B uses to do A. It uses C,D,E to accomplish A.
3. Read through documentation on C, D, and E to get an idea how they are configured.
4. Go back to B and look at the way C,D, and E are configured to work together to do A.
5. Read docs on C,D,and E for anything that you need to change from B to work with your environment F.
6. Watch it break.
7. Read docs on C,D, and E on how to get debug info from C,D,and E.
8. Check logs and read through C,D,E to see what they mean and how you misunderstood said docs.
9. Make changes.

I did this long enough to get a system I could work with and then just fixed things as I went. I'm pretty happy with my system but I still make changes using this system. It's all reading stuff and copy and pasting it in to configs.

It's not that welcoming to those who don't know much about Linux. I assume that's because it's an enthusiast distro and if you're asking basic questions, you probably shouldn't be using Arch.

Lots of enthusiast things are the same.

It was Fedora, not Ubuntu.
Talking shit about something you have never used is a good thing? Because that was the problem, kid didn't even attempt to try Arch before daily bashing it. I feel like that's a shared feature of like 99% of anti-arch posters.

>implying it's only Ubuntu that Arch users are hating on

I've been using Arch since Nova.
The community sucks now.
What's worse, the devs seem to pander to them.

>2 weeks
>really takes one hour to setup following beginners guide

I don't really get the hate for arch users. I mean if im going to give an opinion that is as unbiased as i can possibly be..... this thread has a lot of people explaining how arch users behave but it does not have a single arch user acting the way they describe.

I think this community here at Sup Forums is starting to embrace the "it's cool to hate arch" meme rather than the "its cool to install it" alternative

Sup Forums doesn't have arch users. Sup Forums has Sup Forums rejects running win 10 for dx 12.

arch haters are boogeyman
I've never seen someone go out of their way and say, "lol X is shit, just use arch"

A pleb who wrote his own fucking kernel, what have you ever contributed to mankind you dumbfuck?

A kernel model which was already deprecated when he started to develop it.

I see it all the time.
Especially in Slackware threads, although it may be just one very persistent guy.

>Why's the Arch community so toxic?

The distribution is used only by hobbyists, and contributors to the Arch project itself. The hobbyists are unaware of themselves.

>toxic
it's not toxic at all, we just don't like to deal with retards who needs a spoonfeeding gui installer and can't even follow simple instructions. go use noobuntu and come back once you know the basics

see

Arch dropping the TUI installer was actually the last straw for me (I'm still using Arch on my ARM device because there are no better alternatives for it)
"We can't be bothered to update it anymore. Our retard users are happy to go through pointless bullshit anyway"

And no, following the wiki step-by-step does not make you a l33t h4x0r, all it does is cost time. Arch's very simple installer was already quite flexible and allowed you to do most steps manually if you had an actual need for it. But it still saved you time and let you go through with it without having to look at the wiki.

ubuntu is universally known as shit within Sup Forums
not an argument

>We're better than you because we install via root shell
Mean while a lot of us install via root shell, we just don't like Arch Linux. These are the people that make the Arch community toxic.

Arch Linux is just a meme. People who actually use it are retarded. There are plenty of better alternatives.

Name three (Gentoo doesn't count)

>gentoo doesn't count
why the fuck not nigger?

Op arbitrarily said a community was toxic to make it look bad even though no one cares.

There's your strawman.

REKT! Plenty of better alternatives, can't even mention one.

When you already dismiss gentoo for no reason why even bother naming others?

Idk but Arch is the comfiest DIY distro imo

Debian is nice and all but the packages are old and honestly it's frustrating.

Debian with newer packages will be amazing.

to prove the point that there are plenty more to choose fucko

Why is the quality of community so important? I've been using arch for like 3 years and never once interacted with the it.

Because using Linux distros relies on help from the community.

these:
dumbfucks in denial:
/cancerous thread

Wow sure showed me basement dwelling manchild. Go compile your NEET WM

>Archfag calling other basement dwelling manchild
Nice projecting
/thread

All Linucks/freedumb shit is weapons-grade autism. It will always and forever be niche

>All Linucks/freedumb shit is weapons-grade autism.
And that's why I use it.

you sure seem to have fun reading your way through what you consider to be a cancerous thread

yes, because actual entertainment is hard to find these days and ill take what I get
/thread

Opensuse
The rolling release debian thing
Slackware
LFS

...

Slackware
Void
CRUX

Wasn't me dumb ass

Is it your first day here?

What's the problem nigger

I love how Arch nemesis get so pissy
>B-but we are 1337
Atleast use CRUX
Fucking retards

>implying you aren't the newfag
/thread

Who has ever said that arch is 1337 apart from that one false flag in the thread?

I just use it because it provided a relatively clean base to install wm + packages I need, and debian had audio problems.

> Debian with newer packages will be amazing.
It already exists and it's called Debian Sid

Are you kidding? I see it all the time.

We must not be on the same board, then. All I usually see is either arch hate from a vast majority of windows users, the rare cool debian/fedora/suse user, and some arch users in desktop threads.

>You'll install it one day
>Retards who can't follow a guide to install Arch

Honestly, I see these all of the time. It's one of the reasons I stopped using Arch Linux. I don't want to be apart of that.

>caring about what other users do when choosing your distro
why would you do that?

Not that pre-fag but the masses of users - in Archs case the 50 weebs - set the course. That is why most OSs are bound to become shit.

Because the community is important. Arch community is a lot like the FreeBSD community. Contributing to the community is not the most important thing in the world but it is important to me.

Apple also used to be universally known as shit, but check the catalog. It seems normalfags have found Sup Forums. Either that or it's just summer. Also, Ubuntu wasn't the point of his post. You're strawmanning.
Eh, I tend to prefer testing myself, but Sid would be the closest alternative to Arch that Debian does.

But arch devs explicitly don't care about the minimalist/elite memes.

I find that the arch community (#archlinux, BBS forums, etc) is actually pretty noob-friendly.

Sup Forums isn't the whole world.

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>Sup Forums isn't the whole world.
While this is very true, I find that every Arch user I meet - for example at university or trade school - perfectly represents the Sup Forums 1337 haxxor meme to the point where one is autistic enough to deactivate interrupts in the BIOS of his loud beeping Thinkpad for EXTREME SPEED GAINZ during lecture.

>Somebody comes into the Arch forum or IRC with an issue
>One guy replies with a link to the wiki
>Obviously the user already read the wiki

Same thing with the FreeBSD community

Archfags are literally the vegans of technology.
They can let 5 minutes pass without telling people about Arch and Arch is the only true distro and everybody else is wrong.

That sounds terrible. I'm sorry for you...
I've never actually met another linux user IRL.

"I already read the wiki, and it didn't solve my problem."

Wiki wont solve all of your issues. That's what the support section is for. Very immature and Arch doesn't really have a niche in the professional world.

I've set it up in an hour, spent most time downloading core.
It doesn't make you superior, it's as easy as Debian install.

Yeah, that's explicitly what I said. If the wiki didn't solve your issue, just say that it didn't if someone links a wiki article to you.

>Arch doesn't really have a niche in the professional world.
Yeah, it's a desktop bleeding-edge distro. Who the fuck would use it in a professional environment, unless they dislike stability?

>for example at university or trade school
>implying you have a life outside of your mom's basement

better question...why is linux community as a whole so toxic?

Because you visit the wrong places?

archfags everyone

They aren't. Only the people who have been using Linux for a couple years or so are usually the ones who brag about it. The dev communities are usually very professional.

Excessive cheeto consumption has caused them to naturally produce a venom-like substance in all of their bodily fluids

oh wait this is Sup Forums not reddit, that's how you make a Sup Forums shitpost in response to a retarded statement

straight white males of above average intelligence are horrible soulless pieces of shit that think it's okay to rape puppies and keep people they think are inferior on freedom restricting operating systems. if GNU/Linux (not linux) was more used by women, minorities, and jews, it would already have surpassed capitalist window$.

>10 min installer vs 3 hour ubuntu installer

this, the moment it turns normie, the moment i drop it and go for BSD

but ubuntu can't be used as a point against arch when its hated from other distros

>not typing out wget commands with full URLs yourself and untarballing the tarballs

confirmed moron

go back to noobuntu

XD