Seems like Sup Forums hates pic related

Seems like Sup Forums hates pic related.

Why?
Whats so bad about Seagate?/What is WD doing better than Seagate ?

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backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-failure-rates-q2-2016/
proshop.se/Haarddisk/HGST-MegaScale-DC-4000B-HMS5C4040BLE640-Haarddisk-4-TB-35-5400-rpm-SATA-600-64-MB-cache/2431683
pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#sort=a7&page=1
tweaktown.com/articles/6028/dispelling-backblaze-s-hdd-reliability-myth-the-real-story-covered/index3.html#2Ga9XTFpVffXFJp8.99
youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4
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That graph is telling me that Seagate is the only Hard Drive Company that managed to half their Failure Rate percentage and that WD fails more often than Seagate.

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and its true seagate is top tier while WD is overpriced shit

Think of WD if they were AMD cpus with a Intel price premium. Absolutely worthless

>Blackblaze

Blackblaze only had the WD Red for 2015 in an environment not suited for the Red.

the 3 TB seagates were a disaster, i had one and it failed, and it wasn't just me it has a ridiculously high failure rate and there's an ongoing class-action lawsuit for it

but WD is overrated, has a lot of marketing and hype

i went with HGST and judging by the backblaze stats it's extremely reliable compared to the alternatives

>WD is overrated
>So I went with a WD company

actually the price difference between the Seagate 1TB HDD and the WD Blue 1TB is just 1€

they're run separately and have different products

Please use capitalization and punctuation.

>cuckbucks
leave the eu

based HGST

backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-failure-rates-q2-2016/

>again only WD Red

red is supposed to be reliable

Blackblaze doesn't have a typical desktop environment, and some HDDs don't do very well with a lot of vibration.

The Red Pro takes vibration much better than the regular Red which is just a budget HDD.
And a WD Re would be even better suited for that environment.

They've also bought refurbished shit in the past and included those in the figures.
Also the test sample isn't too big for some of the drives.

Reds just aren't meant for enterprise data storage, they can't take the vibration too well.
A Red Pro or the data centre WDs would do much better.
WD Black would also do better.
Maybe even the Blue would do better.

HGST megascale 4TB is cheaper than WD red, WD red pro, WD black, and marginally more expensive than WD blue, at least from here: (availability may vary)

proshop.se/Haarddisk/HGST-MegaScale-DC-4000B-HMS5C4040BLE640-Haarddisk-4-TB-35-5400-rpm-SATA-600-64-MB-cache/2431683

so personally i'm really happy with the enterprise HGST drive which is even cheaper than WD red

i cant. i am the eu

Seagate sucks because they sold 3TB drives from a plant contaminated by the Thailand flooding of 2011. They sold these drives everywhere they could even though they suffered better than 40% failure rate in the warranty period.

That's scumbag behavior.

Toshiba got the 3.5" HDD lines.

well you're speeding up the downfall of the EU so keep up the good work

I don't care what you're happy with, Swedecuck.

I only pointed out why Blackblaze isn't reliable and why the numbers of Reds are likely going to be worse in their environment than in a normal desktop environment.

I use Seagate drives in my NAS. Not because I like Seagate or anything, just because they were way fucking cheaper and I needed a bunch of them. I spent like $100 a pop on a bunch of 4TB Seagates, so eh, whatever. They've been running for about 6 months so I assume it's fine.

HGST are the best drives if you ask me.

>ethics
>business
pick one

>using desktop drives in a object storage environment instead of enterprise or cloud class disks
thanks for proving you dont understand how MTBFs are calculated for disks. there are many things which effect disk lifespan, from vibration, to temperature, to power on hours, and so on.

>In May 2012, WD divested to Toshiba assets that enabled Toshiba to manufacture and sell 3.5-inch hard drives for the desktop and consumer electronics markets to address the requirements of regulatory agencies.
damn this shit's complicated lol

even if wd red does better in normal desktops (but desktops can run much hotter and can also have a fair amount of vibration) then HGST should still be even better

>(but desktops
>have a fair amount of vibration)
please stop embarrassing yourself. go put a glass of water next to a 20 ton AC unit in a data center and tell me that again.

the AC unit doesn't shake the whole building

The reason Seagate has such high failure rates is because these iddiots pulled out HDDs from external drives during the HDD price crisis, so it does not accurately portray failure rates as the drives they used there are obviously worse than the one you buy in-store.

lmao I'm a civil engineer

yes they do

I never said that retard. The glass of water will constantly ripple on its surface. Desktop computers dont have to deal with shit like that, except what your lard ass plops down in our chair.

>so it does not accurately portray failure rates as the drives they used there are obviously worse than the one you buy in-store.
They're the same disks retard.

nah bruh check the user reviews on ST3000DM001 the internal one is shit too

Why do you keep responding like this is some sort of fucking discussion where you try your best to defend a purchase I don't care about in the slightest.

Also learn to punctuate and capitalize.

>but desktops can run much hotter
If your assumption is correct, then it's going to depend on how well the HGST does with higher temperatures compared to other HDDs.

>can also have a fair amount of vibration
No.

what are you even on about you stupid sperg

I went to the store to buy a 5 TB WD green drive to store my porn on, but it turns out according to the shop they only sell this model in blue now. I bought it anyway, did I fuck up my drive choice? I only had seagate barracuda and hitatchi before none failed.

>WD
say good bye to your electricity efficiency, money, data and your dignity you stupid fucker

Learn to punctuate and capitalize.

So far you've only tried to justify your purchase responding to my posts completely unrelated to your purchase.
I don't care about what you buy with your step-father's money.

In the past all the Blues above 1TB were rebranded greens anyway.
I think these days it's for every Blue above 2TB.
It's 5400 RPM so it may still be a rebranded green.

You could have bought a HGST deskstar for that money instead which is probably a little better.
The Blue is just fine, it doesn't matter *that* much, but the Deskstar is most likely better value.

bought a wd 2tb external this year a few months ago

should i worry over it inevitably failing on me? anyone know the lifespan for wd externals?

No, you don't have to worry.

Blackblaze is anything but the golden standard.

you should be prepared for a harddrive failure no matter what, any brand could fail when you least expect it, and maybe an accident happens or someone steals it etc

It was 140 € so I couldn't resist, in my country that is great value for the buck.

One odd capacity drive lineup had a higher than average failure rate several years ago, sending Sup Forums into one of their typical contrarian rage fits and it hasn't dissipated since then.

40% failure rate

So what are they supposed to do fucktard?
Just throw out inventory randomly on the chance that they might be defetive?

Or you know just replace the shit that's possibly contaminated through warranty like a sane person would.

Well, yes. Instead of forcing people to lose their possibly precious data.

any serious company would refrain from selling defective items that in any sensible industry would have to be recalled anyway. the flooding should be covered by their insurance, otherwise they should have just eaten the cost themselves.

>chance
>greater than 40%

Prices rose because the other manufacturers did not do what Seagate did. Seagate took advantage of the prices and dumped product made in a dirty factory. HDD factories have to be clean rooms.

pcpartpicker.com/products/internal-hard-drive/#sort=a7&page=1

They're still offloading these drives. Does warranty coverage also replace data?

>Not having RAID or backups

So there's no chance of having an additional hardware failure while waiting for replacement? So your time to diagnose and replace the hardware is worthless? So you always keep every bit backed up?

>forcing
>precious data
>no backups

kek

>stop selling defective items
No, this only applies to dangerous items not HDDs

>sell defective items
>wonder why people don't like your company

>What is WD doing better than Seagate ?
Not failing.
I have a 10+ years old WD SATA drive and it still works. And a SEAGATE 7200.12 drive recently failed after some 5 years.

>I dont know what RAID 6 is
>I think it takes more than 3 minutes to swap a disk
>I still dont take regular backups

we get it, you're a neckbeard

Samsung Spinpoint F3

What HGST 1-2TB drive would you gentlemen recommend for mass storage?

Haven't bought Seagate since around 2012.

I had 3 internal HDDs fail (if only read the box back then, they were all chink shit)

strangely enough a thai made external hdd is still alive and kicking.

>judging by the backblaze stats
>Idiots actually use that data
Please die in a fire.

at least i have a RAID 6

>please notice my skillz, senpai
>I still buy hardware that fails >40% of the time

see retard, I have enterprise class HGST HDDs and enterprise class Seagate SSDs

>hurr i can't cope with the fact that wd red doesn't live up to its marketing
show some better data then faggot

I'm not one of these sperglords who are arguing against Backblaze data. However, one negative side effect of the data is that HGST products are being overvalued. Many of the sub-5TB HGST drives on the market right now are used drives being resold as new to capitalize on the current consumer bias. Even if you were getting new drives, they are half a decade old.

>selling used drives as new
What the actual fuck?

Is WD blue a good idea? I could also get a red, but it's for a desktop, not a NAS (not sure of that's important).

A gate in the sea? Wtf? In the sea there's just water so how can there be a gate?

>enterprise class
:^)

it's a gate they open to drown all your data

I'm not pretending to be an expert on HDDs but common sense says to avoid 3TB Seagates and

WD blue is just shit, get a barracuda instead

>WD blue is just shit
Why?
>get a barracuda instead
I don't trust seagate.

>Many of the sub-5TB HGST drives on the market right now are used drives
Its a 7K3000 disk, of course they're going to be used. They came out 5 years ago.

You're saying avoid HGST disks

have you never heard of watergate?

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>i dont trust seagate
stop being a wd shill, wd is just total trash

the one i got from proshop was brand new

Very interesting picture. I notice the amount of seagate drives in their inventory for 2016 is a huge jump from the previous years. Maybe other companies are trusting seagate drives much more now. Maybe I will invest in seagate stock.

Please, stop being autistic!

>2016
>investing in a HDD company

I mean, SSDs aren't going to completely replace HDDs any time soon, but I still don't think that would be a particularly smart investment in the long term.

good pic but there are huge differences between hardcore/hardstyle/techno/dubstep/drum n bass

fingerprint cards
next biometrics

Only drives that were ever bad is 3tb. WD is shit though

autistic people make the world go round

> vibration
Do you live in a jeep? Do you live on a fault line?

>that logo
It's green like the algae growing on all the dead Seagate hard drives in the dump. The swirl is to remind you of the money you just flushed down the toilet.

Nothing's bad about a little water in the drive. Keeps it cool

>ive never been in a data center

Failure rate.

>i think all data centers are the same

Sucks for you buddy. When you do go and see no vibration let me know

tweaktown.com/articles/6028/dispelling-backblaze-s-hdd-reliability-myth-the-real-story-covered/index3.html#2Ga9XTFpVffXFJp8.99

I'm just going to leave this here in the hope that some of you idiots actually read it. It doesn't contain any easily digestible pictures so you probably won't.

>top tier
No, it's third-best. The best HDD manufacturer is HGST. Second is Toshiba. (HGST was the HDD division of Hitachi).

wd red is advertised as having vibration protection and being suited for multi-bay NAS systems

see retard

kill yourself

youtube.com/watch?v=tDacjrSCeq4

You can actually damage hard drives by yelling at them.

>/reddit9k/frog as the normalfag
Makes sense.

Kys

data centers don't necessarily have much vibration and a desktop pc can also have multiple harddrives and fans blowing etc, sure a harddrive might do better in a desktop pc than in the backblaze tests (but it might also do worse because backblaze runs them cool and heat is also a harddrive killer), but fuck off with the autistic black-and-white categorizations, if a harddrive does better on backblaze it probably does better in desktop pc's as well, it's not like they were wrong about the 3 tb seagate fiasco