6700k/6700

I7 6700 vs i7 6700k (K vs non K)?

Which one and why? Is there even a noticeable difference?

>Is there even a noticeable difference?
The price. It doesn't matter at all for 99% of computing tasks.

K because even if you aren't going to OC today you might in 3-4 years when you starting hitting a CPU bottleneck and dont want to drop $500+ on a whole new motherboard, CPU, RAM, etc.

no difference unless you want to overclock, then get a 6700k

I would go for the K, its not much extra but if you wanted to go from non-K to K it would be comparatively very expensive.

I never OC anything because I don't know how lol

go fuck yourself idiot

Get the 6700K because no matter what happens you'll end up wanting to overclock at some point. It'll save you money in the end because you won't need to buy new motherboard and ram.

>
t. Sup Forumsirgin

Feel free to laugh at me, but how do you guys know at what point is the right time to overclock? And why not OC it from the start.

almost all motherboards these days have built in auto OC tools anyway.

But you can read 1 page guides and safely overclock a 6700k

dont go over 1.3V
Set multiplier to 45. It's magic.

>why not OC from the start.
You should do exactly that. The reason people don't is twofold. One, people are retarded they think it'll hurt the longevity of the product to overvolt it for longer. But it will be obselete before that's a problem anyway. 2. The more legit problen is you can't oc that much on a stock cooler and they figuire no point investing in an aftermarket one if they don't need the OC performance anyway.

ITT everyone assumes OP is playing childish video games

K for sure user. As others have stated, overclocking. Also, in the event that you ever want to upgrade and sell this bad boy, you will be able to much easier than trying to sell a used non-k edition. When people try to grab these up after a newer one comes up they will look for k editions more than non K.

This is if you are casual.
But in reality you should just firstly give her as much voltage as your heatsink or waterloop or whatever can handle in prime95. Then just keep increasing your clocks till it starts crashing in prime 95 take your max stable clock then just keep lowering voltage until it crashes, and keep your lowest stable voltage.
Voila you are overclocked.

>almost all motherboards these days have built in auto OC tools anyway.

Delete this

5820k + Overclock = profit

>better than 6700k and future proof socket, 5960x 6900k 6950x.

it's real?

Not to mention most X99 boards also support Xeons, so you could potentially throw a 22 core Broadwell-EP Xeon in there if you needed/wanted.

Get the non-k, the 6700 probably won't bottleneck for like 5 years and by that time you would get another CPU even if you had chosen the 6700k

Is it honestly buying a k version if you don't want to overclock? I would be fine to gut my system all over again in five years on my decent pay check

Overclocking always introduces more instability, no exceptions.

Why do you think processors are sold at a certain clock speed?

Why don't they just come overclocked?

Because the default clock speed is the most stable.

Anything beyond that and you're going to run into issues, no matter how small.

If you're a retarded hobbyist, then sure, overclock, run linux, and fuck around with beta software that crashes all the time.

If you actually do anything important with your computer, NEVER overclock.

>her
>his processor is female

If you don't overclock, do not get the K.

That'll save me some money on my new build

>If you actually do anything important with your computer, NEVER overclock.

Tell that to all the renderers of Sup Forums. You're a dumbass.

do you like fiddling around in bios for small gains and want an expensive flashy mobo? unlocked chip

Do you just want a set it and forget it pc with a cheaper mobo and lower power/heat? locked chip

Word.

Everyone here assumes that everyone here is a video games playing manchild. The other day some guy kept convincing me to get 1070 instead of 970 and when I asked him why he said "better performance in video games".

Fucking pathetic.

>If you actually do anything important with your computer, NEVER overclock.
then there's no point in getting 6700-K over 6700

Everybody is saying get the K so you can overclock, and they're not necessarily wrong, but if your motherboard doesn't support it (read as: any 100-series mobo starting with H) then you may as well save the extra money and get the base model. If you're getting a 6700 in the first place for everyday consumer use, there's no real reason to overclock aside from dick measuring.

In that case why does intel sell K models?
I've ran mutiple cpus overclocked for years with no issues. Why be a parnoid autist about it?

If you're getting a $50 mobo just buy an i3 poorfag. If you want an i7, spend the coin, don't half-ass it.

But there's literally no difference between 6700 and 6700K unless you're planning to verclock.

Is this pasta?
Never seen it before.
They ACTUALLY run the base clock because no two CPUS can run the exact same stable overclock, nor do they come with hardcore cooling options. So they sell the product at a stock clock everyone can achieve with the box cooler. They can't take the time to get the best clock for each part and sell them at different prices or something. They do this occasionally though, it's called binning. You know the amd 9590? Its just an 8350. They just grabbed the best ocing ones and oced them.

If you can run fucking hours (unnecessary but retards do it) of prime95 with stable temper no throttling and no hick ups or crashes.Your cpu is fucking stable, as stable as stock clock.
If it can handle prime95 ir intel burn test it can handle rendering encoding or any "real prof" application you throw at it. Any claim to the contrary just means you have no idea what rhe fuck you are doing overclocking.

I'm not the one asking noob questions on /k/, just answering them. Don't be a cunt.

I've only considered an i7 once and that was for an HTPC.

Would an i7 6700T be shit?
And why?

4K porn, streaming, Chinese cartoons with walls of subtitles in every panning frame, etc.

The main reason for considering the 6700T is it's TPD, which is pretty low.

I'm only building an HTPC once for the foreseeable future, so I don't want to end up with something that doesn't check every box.

DX12 games coming out 2016

Battlefield 1
Deus Ex: Mankind Divided
Star Citizen
Ark: Survival Evolved
Watch Dogs 2
Halo 5: Guardians Edition
Gears of War 4
Forza Horizon 3
Halo Wars 2

Okay..?
Thanks for sharing

This is why you should get the 5820k, no non K model to trigger you.

>star citizen
>coming out 2016
Keep dreaming

Way too expensive for me.

Sugoi.

Will I be alright with a 1070 for Deus Ex in 1440p?

$40 for 2 more cores, 4 more threads, and future proof socket.

>if only this was easier

You won't be able to play DXMD unless you buy it, sorry.

Hell i got my 5820k for $300 at microcenter.

>ssd 240 gb kingston 2.5" sata III hyperx fury
>ram: 2 * kingston ddr3 8 gb hyperx fury red
>motherboard: intel 1151 gigabyte ga-z170 hd3 ddr3
>cpu: i7-6700k 4-core 4.0 ghz
>gfx: gigabyte geforece gtx 970 gv-n970g1 gaming 4-gd

should i change anything?

But its not better than the skylake for the vast majority of tasks and the whole system is more expensive and 1151 has 5 more years of support.

By which time something else will replace it.

Definitely. 1070s are great performers for the price.

Buy what?

The game or the GPU?

I think an a8-7600 would be better. selectable 45w or 65w tdp You can oc the r7 igpu to 1000mhz on stock voltage, you can xfire it with a r7 250 if you were so inclined. and it's $70

been using an a6 in mine for too long. I think this will make a nice upgrade for me too.

The game. Denuvo.

>ddr3
>970
try again son.

>X99
>futureproof
skylake-E will use new socket

Depends what you're doing. If this is everyday consumer work and gaymen, you can drop it to 8GB and an i5-6600. If you're doing media creation or running a server, looks fine to me. Might want to add a 1TB platter drive for another 40 bucks. Also do some research on consumer reviews for SSDs; Kingston has had issues with defective flash recently. userbenchmark.com is excellent for comparing hardware.

>but I forgot you can overclock

These tests are done 4.2ghz vs 3.6ghz

Overclocked both reach 4.5-4.7.

Clock for clock single thread performance is similar, mutilthreaded is obviously rape. Dx12 is here chaps.

whats wrong? i dont get it

You do realize it's a bigger industry than movies right? How can a storytelling medium be "childish". Because you think the proper use of your time is ricing out Gentoo?

>Depends what you're doing
editing videos and stuff, no games

and yeah, i'm about to get a 4TB drive

thanks

Ever heard of second hand 5960x, 6900k, or 6950x.

8c 16 t or 10c 20t

Not enough for you?

He's saying those are outdated. He isn't necessarily wrong. Skylake prefers DDR4, which is about the same price, but DDR3 will still work. If you're gaming you should check out a 1070, if not then there is nothing wrong with a 970.

>Motherboard
>DDR3

love this epic meme

>Skylake prefers DDR4
which one do you suggest then? and thanks

Lucky I don't have one even remotely close to me. I bought mine lighty used with msi x99s sli krait and 16gb 2133 ram , all for 500$. My 32gb corsair vengence lpx 3200 4x8gb white sticks just arrived for that sweet quad channel.

>In that case why does intel sell K models?

For the same reason they sell fans with LEDs and cases with windows.

Retarded hobbyists who want to run their CPUs faster at the cost of actual usability.

>Skylake prefers DDR4

I'm gonna guess...DDR4 RAM?

Go DDR4 for sure. More recent technology, just as stable, about the same price.

DDR2 has less cas latency so it's technically better

>If you can run fucking hours (unnecessary but retards do it) of prime95 with stable temper no throttling and no hick ups or crashes.Your cpu is fucking stable, as stable as stock clock.
>If it can handle prime95 ir intel burn test it can handle rendering encoding or any "real prof" application you throw at it.

This is 100% incorrect. Instabilities can crop in all kinds of unpredictable ways that you don't even notice. Random crash happens? Drivers giving errors? System rebooted for no reason?

Anytime this happens, you'll have no idea if it was your overclock or something else, because you were dumb enough to overclock.

And a much lower frequency, so no, but nice try.

>autism the post

>20% clock gain on safe overclock same as led case fans.

How's it feel being a poorfag?

DDR3 wont work unless its explicitly supported on the board you buy,

Wrong voltage.

ha, good one!

Only poorfags overclock because they are too poor to afford a stable CPU at a high default clock rate.

To be fair, it's one of those things you do at the end of the lifespan of the machine anyway. You overclock so you don't have to be a good little goy and update to the next socket change.

>6700K stock boosts to 4.2Ghz
>OC to 4.5Ghz
>1.3V
Why even bother? I even got it delidded for better temps, and confirmed that the CPU can hit 4.7Ghz around 1.41V, but I don't even feel like risking it for possible worse lifespan. My old 3570K hit 4.5Ghz at a somewhat higher voltage, and literally stopped turboing past 3.5Ghz last year. that 10% performance improvement really isn't worth it if the chip will just die soon.

>>motherboard: intel 1151 gigabyte ga-z170 hd3 ddr3
LMAO

>build a pc
>doesn't want to tinker

Just stick with your console poorfag

There is nothing wrong with overclocking. It's a great way to squeeze a little extra performance out of a cheaper chip. I completely disagree that running P95 for half an hour means your card is stable, and you're absolutely right that overclocks should be tested with a variety of real-world tests, but overclocking in itself is perfectly fine. I got an 8320 and clocked it up to 4.7GHz on stock voltage for $200 out the door including a cooler. Saved half the cost off a 9590 for nearly identical performance.

I actually use my PC for work. If you want to tinker that's great, but you're going to run an unstable machine.

>tinker
>changing a few settings in the BIOS

Sure, feel free to link me a 6+ core intel cpu that boosts to 4.5ghz @1.25v stock specs.

>literal

But I'm so scared of those big bad bios settings.

>That's why I order all my builds direct from Dell with locked bios.

Most of them do, including the one OP specified.

recommend me a good but cheap DDR4 motherboard

Pretty much every 170 on the market

By his logic the 9590 is an unstable chip user, it was engineered to run at 4.00ghz.
>driver errors
user I'm talking cpu not gpu.
Your an idiot if you think a 100% load is gonna make it shit the bed but a say 50% work load is. You just don't understand how any of this works.
You can run into errors in three possible ways.
One your voltage is insufficient or not enough power. Two your chip just straight up can't handle the clock, 3 too hot.
There is no magic boogeyman where your cpu is doing something completely different in a "real world application"

is 6700 (non K) alright with DDR4?

It is literally the exact same chip as the 6700.

nigga what

Did you seriously not know that?
They just don't let you oc one and the k is slightly binned probably. They used to only allow vtd or whatever it's called on non k cpus for some reason though.

fuck you

Fuck you too asshole

? What the fuck man?

it's not the same chip

But it is....
I mean they are borderline the same part.
Most parts within the same architecture are the same chip really. Not just non K versions of the same part.

Yes it is.

t. amd shills

Briefly scrolled through, didn't see anyone mention.

It should be noted that even if you don't overclock, the 6700 is 3.4/4GHz while the 6700k is 4/4.2GHz. The 6700k is about $20/30 more if you shop around.

Whether that's worth the price difference is up to you, but I haven't met a whole lot of people who have said, "Damn, I wish I bought a better Skylake CPU," after running their machines a while. Even an i5 is preeeetty fucking good.

The fuck?
Both companies do this?
Why is this site populated wirh people more tech illeterate than my mother?