Marc Faber: Tesla shares are going to $0
Tuesday, 9 Aug 2016
cnbc.com
"What they produce can be produced by Mercedes, BMW, Toyota, Nissan. Anybody in the world can make it eventually, at much lower cost and probably much more efficiently[...]"
John C. Dvorak: The Risky Solid-State Drive
JUNE 2, 2009
pcmag.com
"[...]as for the solid-state-drive revolution, well, good luck with that one."
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>SSD is CompactFlash
What a dumb fuck. Tech ''''''''''journalism''''''''''
>John C. Dvorak
I'm pretty sure he knows he's an idiot, but enjoys saying retarded shit anyway.
Compact Flash is solid state tho
You can't compare it to a proper SSD.
>wow flash drives sure are fucking garbage
>I guess solid state drives are shit too!
Can anyone think of some more? Dvorak is my pet peeve, but I just saw that Faber article and thought maybe it's a trend and we could have a thread.
Did you guys know that the NRA is the reason we don't have smart guns yet? Fucking luddites.
I regularly need to try twice to get my phone to unlock with the fingerprint reader, I don't need my gun fucking up the same when there is something that needs hollow points inside of it.
You're a luddite too. You really think that a biometric system on a gun would work the same as a fucking touch screen whose primary function is to be a screen? Maybe you should start a tech column.
Personally, I won't even daily carry a gun until I can be 99% certain it won't fire for anyone else. Humans are fragile and bringing an unsecured gun into a situation is a huge risk.
>smart guns
For what purpose?
I consider my hunting rifle to be very smart, with a whopping 27 parts that I can maintain or even reproduce with only the tools in my garage. My handgun is a bit less smart, somewhere around 75 parts, some of them I could probably not make on my own without a great deal of effort. I can maintain it very well though. Why should I add on more parts that do me absolutely no good but make my weapon dependent on other people to function properly?
It's secured if you're holding it. I won't use a biometric scanner unless I am 100% sure it won't compromise the integrity of my weapon when I need it or am forced to by yet another authoritarian law. Obviously I'll never be 100% of that so here's waiting until you and your ilk get the law passed.
>secured if you're holding it
Things happen. You can be overwhelmed by a thug with more fighting experience, you can trip on a rock and hit your head and die.
We'll never get the chance to even assess the technology, since the luddite NRA crew is in power and they will literally put any gun manufacturer who develops the tech out of business with their connections.
Think of it this way, smart gun tech would put MORE guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens who are now more comfortable with the risk calculus, and fewer in the hands of criminals who potentially will be unable to unlock the gun.
Also someone trying to grab a cops gun becomes less of a serious situation.
I can't wait for idiots to finally realize its not a mygunz issue and more of a common sense one. A mechanical safety can fail. A gun can fail. Everything can fail. That doesn't mean you shy away from progression.
>fewer in the hands of criminals
Or you know, the criminals just keep buying knockoff 1911s made in the jungles of the Philippines like they currently do.
>smart gun tech would put MORE guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens who are now more comfortable with the risk calculus, and fewer in the hands of criminals who potentially will be unable to unlock the gun.
Two years after the first smart gun is sold in america, all guns in the state of mew jersey are illegal to sell.
You are wrong. The reason the NRA is against this is well documented.
Are there serious still people who listen to this guy or even acknowledge his existence? He's been perpetually proving his own idiocy for well over a decade now
We have had a political back and forth on restrictive gun laws for decades, but the
Supreme court has ruled on the individual right to bear arms. You might as well say don't build any more guns with folding stocks so that we can avoid new assault weapons bans. The reason the NRA is against smart guns is ultimately that they are luddites and extremists.
If this was true I'd sell everything and invest it all in Tesla
The musk ain't going anywhere but up.
bullshit, life isnt metal gear solid 2, where you cant use a fucking AK because it's biometrically coded to some mook and not you. if you can lock and unlock a gun using biometrics, you can remote hack it to not work at all, or go off at anytime you please.
its a control freak faggots wet dream to make so called smartguns. play shadowrun sometime with 2 good GM's that know how to run hacking right and see what kind of shit riggers and deckers can pull out of their asses on street samurai without even trying.
the whole thing is a recipe for disaster.
Really? Try to remote hack an iphone to make it not work at all. We're not talking about a 'cloud gun' nor even a wireless-enabled gun.
Are you adding Bluetooth or WiFi to your gun? If not you would physically have to hack into the gun to do that. You're an idiot.
he was on cnet tv over 20 years ago. and he was just as full of shit then. motherfucker tries so hard to look smart, but he makes himself out to be a confused old fart with little to no grasp of how anything works.
when he said some shit years ago about having to change sparkplugs on a diesel, i started laughing till i realized he was still going on about shit he had no idea about. he looks like the ex-elementary school vice principal that got put on the sex offender database because OH MY GOD I AM NOT GOOD WITH COMPUTER HOW DID I GET HERE.
NFC is the commonly described way of going about controlling use, ping the fuck out of it with the disarm or disable commands for the lulz
SSDs are still a niche item for people dumb enough to either buy a machine with one in it or morons that don't understand that it's really not that much faster and believe in the insanity of cloud storage.
I've worked with NFC, you haven't. Obviously. If you are close enough to attack someone through NFC you have already been shot .
>it's really not that much faster
It's like you never went from a shitty platter drive to a M.2 SSD.
He gets paid either way, he doesn't give a fuck.
so you cant just wideband a radio signal, and throw manufacturers lock codes against it at high wattage? like how you could fry old TV's with ham equipment and a focused antenna. i know that works, i saw my cousin blow the brand new Sony Trinitron in 1985 with his fancy ham setup.
>smart guns
>"LOL I'M JUDGE DREDD, THE FINGER SCAN/BLUETOOTH/RDIF WILL ALWAYS WORK"
everyone point and laugh and the moron
Go on
>"What they produce can be produced by Mercedes, BMW, Toyota, Nissan. Anybody in the world can make it eventually, at much lower cost and probably much more efficiently[...]"
Kek, does he think that $40k cars from established car companies have a frame and body made from aluminium?
What a fucking moron. The only reason Tesla was using premium materials in their Roadster and Models S+X, is precisely because they're low-volume. If the increased investment in labour is necessary, why not materials?
>Did you guys know that the NRA is the reason we don't have smart guns yet? Fucking luddites.
>Can anyone think of some more?
Yeah, you, ya fucking retard.
>"HURR, THE NRA IS THE REASON WHY GUNS WHICH REQUIRE MICRO-PROCESSORS ARE COMPLETELY UNECONOMICAL!"
>"THE ONLY REASON WHY PEOPLE AREN'T LINING UP TO BUY A GUN THAT COULD BE COMPROMISED BY ELECTRONICS IS BECAUSE OF THE NRA!!!!"
Stick to your techblogs. They are never wrong since they never dare to question anything.
Also Dvorak said mouse was not going succeeded either. He is old school.
lets just say, the boys scouts did more than turn my cousin gay, it gave him an unnatural fixation of making shit go boom, crackle and pop. he was in the service during desert shield/storm and would blow up the arabs stereos with his homemade antennas, descramble porn, and blast G.G. Allen, yakkety sax, old comedy records, AC/DC, and the fucking noises from pornos over the saudi koran recitations.
that and the goat and barnyard sounds with the cheech monologue from dusk till dawn about whores and if you find pussy anywhere else for cheaper, you should fuck it. it wasnt the same, but that joke is as old as fuck.
luckygunner.com
tl;dr
Laughing at new technology doesn't mean it doesn't have its uses. It will be more common in years to come just because price on that technology will decrease. People will want it.
>micro-processors
>expensive
A smart phone costs $20, and has a more powerful microprocessor than a gun would ever need. A gun costs $150-$200 minimum.
>lining up to buy
There's nothing to line up for. The NRA controls the gun industry and will not abide by new technology.
Your argument is uneducated and it doesn't sound like you have any knowledge about the subject at all. Here's a start:
"The CEO of Colt wrote an editorial supporting smart guns in 1997; he was ousted the next year. Smith & Wesson started building [a smart gun] in 1999 as part of a government order; the National Rifle Association immediately organized a Smith & Wesson boycott. Last month, Oak Tree Gun Club in California briefly carried the [Armatix] iP1, but a fierce backlash prompted a swift retreat before any were sold. The store now denies it ever stocked the gun, even though photos show otherwise."
theverge.com
The NRA and it's members are fucking crazy and death threats have happened over this issue.
Faber is right though.
>the year is 2020
>I'm in my house, trying to sleep
>Hear weird loud noise coming from downstairs
>Open bedroom door as quietly as I can
>Take a peek downstairs from the stairwell
>See a melanin enriched individual trying to steal my 70 inch 8k television
>In his waistband I see the glimmer of a hi point (I'm shocked, as all non smart guns, or dumb guns as we call them now,were rounded up and destroyed in the liberty from danger act of 2021)
>Rush back to my room as the red guard carries my TV out of the house
>By now, my entire family is up. They all come to the master bedroom to ask what's going on
>Explain the situation
>Wife locks door, comforts our children
>Meanwhile I go to the safe bolted to the floor in our closet
>Open it using retina scanner
>Grab the smart gun and load it
>Call 911
>Explain the situation to the opperator, they send unlock to smart gun using 6g LTE signal
>Hear door knob jiggling
>Gun still not unlocked
>Explain situation to operator
>"Yeah, that's not good. Let me put you on hold while I go fetch the troubleshooting manual"
>Meanwhile, the door just bursts open
>The intruder tells me to drop everything
>I can hear the operator on the phone asking if I tried turning the smart gun off and on again
>Meanwhile, the intruder holds is all at gunpoint, forces my son and daughter to watch him rape the dog
>He starts firing off his dumb gun erratically, the dumb bullet ricochets and hits Mr in the chest
>Once he finishes with my dog, he executes it andtakes off
>Police arrive with paramedics 15 minutes later
>At this point I'm already unconscious from all the blood loss from that bullet
>Wake up in the hospital
>Get told that the smart gun prevented the unnecessary loss of a precious human life
>My story is put into shitty Facebook pictures that show how the liberal politicians were right about smart guns
>Have to go on the state owned news network to praise empress Hillary Clinton, and her safety team leader, Dianne fienstien.
lol good frog post.
>2016
>Wanting your only method of overthrowing a tyrannical government to be connected to a government bonnet
ISHYGDDT
>A smart phone costs $20
No they don't. And no phone under $300 has a good fingerprint scanner.
Not to mention it has to be powered, constantly. Another electrical device on a shock-prone, element-exposed mechanical object, what could possibly go wrong?
>There's nothing to line up for. The NRA controls the gun industry and will not abide by new technology.
States like California are pushing laws stating that when the first "smart-gun" hits the shelves, all sold weapons must have the technology within [x] years. So that's why the NRA opposes it.
>The CEO of Colt wrote an editorial supporting smart guns in 1997
>Smith & Wesson started building [a smart gun] in 1999 as part of a government order
>Oak Tree Gun Club in California briefly carried the [Armatix] iP1, but a fierce backlash prompted a swift retreat before any were sold
A CEO, a government order, and one single gun club, WHOA, certainly representative of the entire gun industry. It's not as if the backlash to their efforts in indicative of ANYTHING WHATSOEVER, is it?
>but a fierce backlash prompted a swift retreat
If you actually knew anything about that incident, you would know that this backlash had NOTHING to do with the NRA. Before the NRA commented on it, the backlash had already happened. I know this because 5 hours after they stocked the Armatix, I knew about it, and was e-mailing the store owner informing him of particular state laws primed to enforce new standards.
>No they don't.
hahaha what? are you really on Sup Forums right now?
Here's one like what I have - it's even for the American market. I'm not even going to address what you can get direct from China.
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>has to be powered, constantly
>random other bullshit
It can't be powered when you grab the grip? You apparently have no idea what today's technology is capable of. Even if it did have to be powered, we have microchips with idle current of NANOAMPS.
>I am literally part of the problem
Great, sounds like you're proud of your backward beliefs. Fucking retard.
Smart guns? Will I be able to shoot Netflix into my brain?
>It can't be powered when you grab the grip?
Oh, so now we have ANOTHER mechanical device, triggering another electrical device. Not to mention with a full power-off there will be a boot time (even if only a fraction of a second), and a power-off could happen each time the firearm is discharged, when the grip isn't being held in a way which operates it. Fantastic.
>random other bullshit
>"guns don't undergo mechanical shocks, nor do they get wet, nor if they could would it affect electronic devices in any way"
You going to stand behind that? Because it's a statement consistent with your dismissal of reliability concerns, and I've not even started talking about the introduction of failure points.
>I am literally part of the problem
Yeah, I remember saying that. Oh no, wait, what I actually did was refute your claim that the NRA is solely "holding back" smart-gun technology, when you tried to dismiss the general gun-owning public's opinion on the subject.
You really love botnets, huh? You just love spreading your cheeks for big brother, and getting fucked in the ass by the government, don't you?
You're wrapping up ethical issues with smartguns in a coat of engineering issues.
There is a way to make them fast and reliable, and you're denying it pretending that it's a practical rather than philosophical issue.
Which is upsetting because I agree that smartguns are a bad idea. But not because of engineering issues.
>smart guns
Sounds like a great idea.
It's 2016 for fucks sake! Everything ought to be bluetooth enabled, and internet connected.
>You're wrapping up ethical issues with smartguns in a coat of engineering issues
No, I've not argued one single ethical issue. I'm not confusing the issues, I'm focusing on the practicalities.
>There is a way to make them fast and reliable, and you're denying it
Reliable? How reliable? Guns right now are reliable, but gun buyers will discriminate based on knowledge that one gun fails 1/500 rounds, and another fails 1/1000 rounds. A "smart" system which causes a gun to not function even every 500 rounds will bump the mean failure of a gun which ALREADY fails every 500 rounds to 1/250.
It's a simple matter of introducing new failure points, it's better not to do. Gun designers have refined and eliminated unnecessary components for hundreds of years, and guns STILL stop working, even when maintained and operated as instructed.
Gotta love Dvorak
Trolled macfags before most of you were even born and doesn't automatically join the hype of every new technology.
The failure points of electronics tend to be one in millions rather than in thousands.
If there's an engineering solution then it should be explored rather than denied outright- the only reason you'd be like NO SMARTGUNS on an engineering reason is if you were somehow against at least experimenting with smartgun designs, and discovering their failures and usages.
And that being the case you'd have to have a non-engineering reason for being against experimentation
>BMW, Toyota, Nissan. Anybody in the world can make it eventually, at much lower cost and probably much more efficiently[...]"
>John C. Dvorak: The Risky Solid-State Drive
>JUNE 2, 2009
>pcmag.com
>"[...]as for the solid-state-drive revolution, well, good luck with that one."
>>>
> Anonymous 08/11/16(Thu)10:32:53 No.56020722▶
> (OP)
LinusTechTips + anyone from Cnet, the Verge and co?
There is 0 reason for a smart gun. Every application i can think of for it is terrible.
Please explain what you would want it to do.
Also hate to break it to you. But us civilism use is not the sole market of fire arms and believe it or not nobody else gives a shit about the nra, i don't think thr Chinese or russian government or even the us military is sitting there going "we would but the NRA said no"
But leftists in the states blame everything on the nra so...
>Supreme court has ruled on the individual right to bear arms. You might as well say don't build any more guns with folding stocks so that we can avoid new assault weapons bans.
I'm saying there is a law on the books right now that would disarm a whole stateload of people.
That is the reason they oppose their sale. stop trying to make up other shit.
Dvorak is just a fucking clown, I don't know why anyone takes him seriously.
He thought the mouse was just a fad, back in the day.
Does this retarded cunt really think telsa give a shit about cars?
They're building one of the largest battery factories in the world and heavily investing in electrical infrastructure.
They're not a fucking car maker, they are an energy company that is using cars to kickstart their own products.
Jerseyfag here. Let me tell you sumbitches about the whole "NRA NAZIs UGH GRRR I'M A LIBRUAL PROGRESSUV BLERGH" narrative.
The Legislature pushed a law through that bans ALL firearms once ONE viable "smart" gun is available in the market place.
Bitch, those guns are absolute shit. Not one agency is even vaguely considering a .22 that is worse than a Sig Mosquito.
So now they are magnanimously offering to rescind the wholesale gun ban by FORCING dealers to carry this piece of shit.
Gee, wonder what they'll do next? BAN ALL FUCKING GUNS.
If you don't believe that, you're fucking hopeless.