>Rich Venezuelans who live in Florida are celebrating the death of Chavez. >They hate him because he did not let them exploit Venezuela as they wish. What this shows is that they have no shame about exploiting the poor. >Sad to say, they have come to the right country. The US would be much better off economically if it had a Chavez as president. And our human rights would be safer, too. Chavez famously violated human rights on some occasions (and I have criticized them), but he's a human rights hero compared with Bush and Obama.
Communism is not that retarded compared to today's "capitalism".
Aaron Jenkins
What a piece of leftist shit.
Lincoln Bennett
i hate stallman but he is right about this.
Zachary Smith
We already had that thread yesterday and it showed that 80% of Sup Forums are communists and degenerates.
Tyler Reed
This desu
Carter Hernandez
I actually see nothing wrong
Jaxson Myers
Fucking commie
Camden Brooks
It was an Argentinian and a bunch of uninformed people though. The guys who knew what was going on in Venezuela raped their ass.
Mason Powell
Yes, Chavez left a wonderful economic legacy. Venezuela is a economic powerhouse today, and it's citizens are happy, healthy, well fed, and have plenty of jobs and money.
Adrian Morgan
Kek
Joseph Wood
lol. all venezualans are crazy though, not chavezs fault.
Christian Bennett
Stallman is doing the same thing as those guys who go to Thailand for some "barely legal" "fun":
>For their part, political tourists are stuck in a sexless marriage [...]. The proletariat has refused their entreaties to revolt. Their radical fantasies are never fulfilled. So they, too, scour the world. For years, the top radical tourist destination, the political equivalent of the Pattaya Beach brothel, has been Chavista Venezuela. Hollywood stars, the leaders of the British Labour party and Spanish “popular resistance”, and every half-baked pseudo-left intellectual from Noam Chomsky to John Pilger has engaged in a left orientalism as they wallowed in “the other’s” exotic delights.
Add to this list Michael Moore, Oliver Stone, Sean Penn and perhaps Bernie Sanders too.
Blake Walker
It's leftist that ruined that country. Chavez held real power over that country long enough to be responsable for the current trajectory.
Aiden Bailey
Chavez and his merry communists exploited the fuck out of that country for personal gain, but it's diffrent when a leftist does it, it's OK.
Julian King
lol these guys are a bunch of hypocrites
Lincoln Ramirez
Not exactly "hypocrites" as more as they are True Believers in the Revolution.
One of the main tenants of socialism is the apocalyptic destruction of the current system, which is to be replaced by an egalitarian eutopia.
If that sounds like religious eschatology to you, that's not an accident. The main difference is that religion depends on God's will, since only He knows when will the Final Judgement arrive. Until then, we'll have to wait. Socialism, in contrast, is hands-on into bringing change. And that approach is based on a rational calculus: if a socialist eutopia is infinitely better than the current order, then any and all means to bring it into existence are valid. Any and all horrendous action taken by the Revolution is automatically justified.
William Cooper
I know this thread is full of pol fags so lez me point out something
Every right wing faggotry gor rekt by the left Nazis, rhodesians, italians etc
Kevin Hall
Instead of looking at it from the left/right spectrum, you should see it in terms of authoritarianism. The underlying ideology (left-wing or right-wing) is kinda pointless when you acknowledge that the effects upon the populace are very much alike.
Remember that the Nazis were National Socialists, and were in very good terms with the Soviet Union during the early years of WWII.
Bentley Bailey
and every leftists shithole has been utterly destroyed or destroy itself.
stalin, mao, chavez, cuba, north korea, pol pot, mugabe.
lmao. even socialism acknoledge their centralized control goverment style was a retarded idea.
free market has shown it provides better results.
Ryder Jones
Your day will come, don't worry
Juan Martin
>free market has shown it provides better results. To elaborate: Socialists believe that, since the market is rigged and money is evil, government must control the prices of food, medicine and other staples in order to make them "affordable" to the needy.
While the intent is good and noble, the results aren't. What ends up happening is that there's no longer any incentive on the producers' side to sell food and medicines. This creates scarcity, which creates inflation. Price controls are the WORST possible idea.
An alternative idea that does not starve people is to give the neediest the resources to buy food and medicine, whether through vouchers (food stamps, direct cash transfers) and/or government-supervised distribution networks.
Luke Watson
The history of humanity has been the history of the right all the way until the last two hundred years And everyone knows how much shitstorm has there been since then
Connor Jackson
better yet, let capitalists and rich people build factories, shops and other stuff so poor people can have a job and can afford food.
chinese and thirld worlders have to give several months of allowance to even get one of those factory shops first worlders deem as inhuman because the alternative is to starve to death or scrap garbage.
Alexander Richardson
Add Afghanistan/Iraq/Syria to that list too.
Should have voted Kerry.
Josiah Hughes
>I'm going to vote for the authoritarian hard right even though autisumbux NEET who post on degenerate websites like this one would be the among the first sent to the work camps or gas chambers
Aaron Sullivan
>projecting this hard
Nolan Jenkins
MAKE AMERICA GREAT
Hunter Gutierrez
>everything about the right wing is only absolutist military juntas
Jacob Sanchez
america was never great
Luke King
>I can trust the Sup Forums guy with a swastika carved into his forehead and 88 GAS ALL KIKES tattoos to respect and defend my rights to free speech
Christian Flores
>all of pol is like my maymays
Elijah Morales
he's not a hero of any kind
David Gonzalez
>Venezuela thread >everyone talks about some place like Colombia or Argentina, because it's totally the same thing fuck you guys the previous thread would be less retarded if moot didn't ban the biggest venezuelan ISP from posting here around a decade ago
Jonathan Wright
Its possible to be smart with one thing and not so smart with another.
Blake Gomez
Why is Stallman's site named after himself? Doesn't he realize his name is proprietary?
Logan Price
>National SOCIALISM >right wing Nice m e m e
Nolan Young
In case you haven't noticed your precious capitalism is making most people poor so don't be surprised that not many people think capitalism is cool anymore.
Angel Hughes
you may hate him, but (((Stallman))) is actually the best of his kind
Michael Brooks
>capitalism invented all the things you consider wealth today >is making everyone poorer >most billionaires are born from lower classes >capitalism is bad for the lazy niggers who can't build a bussiness >socialism is bad for the people that generate wealth
Jaxon Richardson
Why should I care about the political opinion of a guy who's field of expertise is computers?
Isaiah Richardson
Chavez daughter is the richest person in venezuela
because he abandoned technical field of "computers" decades ago and put all his charisma in to politics with his speeches and FSF direction.
Make no mistake Linus is the technical one, the crazy homeless man is the political one
Juan Jenkins
Okay retardo autismo
Stalins soviet union managed to become a super power from an agrarian culture in a few years Crusades failed too ;)
Aiden Gomez
not shit it became a superpower if you literally force people to get gud at the risk of going to the gulags.
why it failed if it was so good?
Hudson Howard
He's not wrong.
Josiah Diaz
My hero has autism.
Samuel Lopez
All these idiots should take their stuff and move to their beloved countries: Cuba\USSR\Venezuela\Argentina\Palestina\etc. And than exercise from there their free speech.
Also, this fat fucker would probably starve to death in Venezuela
>most billionaires are born from lower classes Would like some data on that. Venezuela has failed because of retarded economics and the country as whole. Venezuela import everything using oil money and when the oil prices went down the exchange rate for USD was kept the same by the goverment. That way, in theory, importers could still do thir business keeping almost the same profit, however, because third world logic, importers would use the official exchange rate to buy goods while selling those goods as it was bought in the non-official rate proof of that is the accumulated wealth those importers got after the oil crash. Chavez and his gang wanted a better Venezuela, but as typical in a corrupted state that did not happened.
Jaxon Diaz
>Remember that the Nazis were National Socialists, and were in very good terms with the Soviet Union during the early years of WWII. That was due to political convenience, not ideological compatibility. Hitler thought Communism was a Jewish conspiracy and that it unfairly rewarded the weak and lazy.
Bentley Sanchez
The concept of left/right politics didn't really exist before a few centuries ago anyway.
>better yet, let capitalists and rich people build factories, shops and other stuff so poor people can have a job and can afford food. It's not as simple as that. There's no magical law that says a free market will induce companies to provide full employment at a reasonable wage. Companies are in it for the profit, so if possible they'll try to hire as few workers as possible, or if they need a lot of workers, they'll try to pay them as little as they can get away with.
>all of pol is like their maymays ftfy
>DEMOCRATIC People's Republic of Korea >dictatorship Nice m e m e
>>most billionaires are born from lower classes [citation needed]
Carson Evans
>Hitler thought Communism was a Jewish conspiracy and that it unfairly rewarded the weak and lazy. The main point of contention was the Socialist International. If Stalin ditched that, the USSR could've joined the Axis instead of those Asiatic mongrel.
Also, Hitler's ridiculous obsession with Lebensraum. If he had a bit of a cooler head, he would've pooled his resources into taking and maintaining the West and Central Europe and reach a state of equilibrium with Stalin (it worked for Poland), instead of facing the Soviet Union.