>be web dev mostly javascript, 3.2 in college and 3 years experience >always told that programmers have it so easy in the job market >apply to tons of jobs >out of fifty of them, only one has responded >rejections fucking everywhere, non stop >haven't even gotten a single interview >been 3+ weeks.
Do I just fucking suck or something? What am I doing wrong?
You picked one of the most out-sourced programming languages there is.
Ian Mitchell
Not really, that's most job markets. Employers know that they're in a position of power and just abuse the fuck out of it, here in the UK i applied for loads of jobs which said "if we don't respond within 4 weeks, you have been rejected".
I would much rather be rejected than be left in limbo desu.
Something will come up, you just have to remain persistent. I luckily got a job after my 2nd interview, but i had applied for like almost 20 jobs and only had a total of 2 interviews. keep at it
Dylan Diaz
are you personalizing each application?
once you start actually GOING for the JOB YOU'RE APPLYING FOR you'll have more success
Oliver Jenkins
every job description basically has the same exact thing
>know how to source control. >experience with a ReSTFul API in Python/Node >experience with a framework like React or Angular >Postgres, Mongo, and maybe websockets I guess
Then a bunch of fluff bullshit about how they're "changing the world" and you'll be "part of a team"
Luis Mitchell
>be web dev found your problem. webdevs are dime-a-dozen. learn backend languages like java or c sharp. Sup Forums hates these but they offer the best ratio between effort to learn and employability.
Ryder Ross
>3.2 in college
Tbh that's a pretty fucking low GPA unless you went to CMU/MIT or the like
Matthew Sanders
>tfw no degree >apply to jobs >got 1st one easily >quit it >got to final interview of 4 interviews each at 3 different companies It's easy if you have C on your resume with some projects made in it. Every webdev thinks you're hardcore.
That being said, webdev is fun
Asher Nelson
if that was low, that would just mean grades have been massively artificially inflated.
Hunter Perry
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Ethan Turner
You left out an important piece of information my friend.
What school did you get your degree from?
Easton Diaz
No, low is sub 3.2
Evan Watson
A pretty shit one. should I go back and get a masters at a real school?
Logan Moore
I am not qualified to give you advice, the only thing doing that could hurt is tour bank account.
Tyler Jones
What position are you applying for and where are you applying?
When I was applying for junior eng jobs last summer it was raining offers at the big companies in SF.
Ethan White
School isn't relevant. I went to Penn State Online LOL and had a job before I even finished classes.
Do you have an internship? A portfolio? Learn something backend. Also, are you willing to move or are you only applying to jobs within your state?
Owen Myers
also sold my soul during university and started one of those insufferable tech blogs where I wrote shitty guides for bleeding edge javascript and rails development. also went to a few hackathons and made like "integrate your facebook with your phone and spotify to track how many dicks are in your mouth." Everyone loved that shit. Now I'm working at a company doing none of that shit and life is awesome.
Nathan Anderson
I have 3+ years of experience, 1 year being an internship at a relatively high profile company (around the level of microsoft), two being with a smaller startup. Got a decent amount of portfolio stuff, have some programming tutorials on youtube That's part of the reason I really don't get it... I'm putting desired salary at 65k and still getting rejections left and right, sometimes in less than a day.
I just signed a lease so I can't move and that's what really sucks :\ otherwise I would just head over to Seattle right now. I think MIT being here makes it fucking impossible to get a job unless you went to MIT.
Josiah Powell
>Not really, that's most job markets. Employers know that they're in a position of power and just abuse the fuck out of it, here in the UK i applied for loads of jobs which said "if we don't respond within 4 weeks, you have been rejected". Here in Norway they don't even say anything like that, you just get ignored. As soon as I've handed in an application I just assume I'm never going to hear from them again unless it's public sector, or I'd be putting myself up for nothing but disappointment.
Every job I've ever landed has been through connections, no matter how "weak", so to network like a faggot is probably the quickest way to employment.
Dominic Robinson
your job is to apply for every job that is listed. if your cv is not attractive to them, they wont call you anyway. spam them all. that's what I do. lol. I apply for 500+ jobs every month. I get a lot of calls. most of them end up not hiring anyone or they keep searching for like 7 months. dont be fooled.
Joshua Sullivan
>the school you went to has hard policies against grade inflation >decent grades compared to classmates, but still low compared to the average graduate from other schools F U CK
Jeremiah Russell
Damn you're fucked bro. I have to compete with people with papers that say Berkeley and Stanford. You are applying to remote work as well, right?
Kevin Williams
but do you actually have a job user?
Parker Carter
>javascript
I have identified the problem
Luke Carter
> webdev > mostly javascript Found your problem right there. There are people with this skillset like sand on the beach.
Should have learned something more unique, instead of choosing the easiest thing everyone goes for.
Easton Ortiz
>been 3+ weeks. hahaha. get a load of this goy.
Aaron Russell
Not OP but what would you consider unique?
Ryan Scott
Off-topic, but I've mostly been doing work in C and C-like languages and have never really done anything on the web. I want to start with just a simple CSS/HTML site and maybe have a demo made in a newer framework done the line.
I'm doing the stuff on HTMLDog (which seems to have taken a dump on its interface since I used it last), though I would appreciate any other references. In fact, are there any good textbooks on web development?
Is codecademy really that great for html/css? I did their PHP course to prepare for a job that never happened and it just felt like a run through basic language features without any regard for teaching best practices or the why's/how's.
Luis Ortiz
Are you not customizing your resume to match the keywords listed in the job descriptions? Otherwise your application just gets sent to the trash bin.
Carson Jackson
HTML is pretty basic shit. Codecademy runs through most of the stuff that's used. CSS on the other hand (imo) requires you to spend a lot of time looking around the web at design blogs and shit. You don't become a css god by knowing some syntax.
I've also done their PHP course, it wasn't in depth at all. If you wanna do PHP, you should probably buy a book.
Benjamin Howard
I'm on the other side of the spectrum OP. Don't know much about webdev javascript shit, I know Java/C/Microshit. Been sending resumes left and right and just get the same shitty computer generated rejection emails.
Does going to companies in person work better or sending emails to their IT Managers directly? Or would I get blacklisted for doing that?
Christian Cooper
You should learn how to do back-end web development, beyond the basics. Learn a language like Java or C#, learn SQL and the intricacies of the database, learn how to use an MQ (at the implementation level) and how to test all of those interactions.
I absolutely put off learning anything about databases during my undergrad. I picked the knowledge up on the job and I am reasonably fluent now. There's a reason that good DBA's are paid well. There's a ton of knowledge there, and being able to optimize a monstrous query is a skill.
I think by focusing on the front-end and JavaScript, you're really limiting your chances. I may be wrong about this but I think front-end work is probably the most common skillset, and that's why those jobs traditionally pay less. Also, that work is what the coding bootcamps target, so you probably have a job market flooded with people who don't have degrees, and they're willing to work for less.
I think the job market in general kind of sucks right now, except at the senior level. Granted it's better in CS than most fields, but it kind of sucks all around. The sign of a good job market isn't low unemployment, it's actual wage growth that beats inflation, and we haven't really had that.
Noah King
>be web dev mostly javascript, 3.2 in college and 3 years experience >web dev >mostly javascript Nigger what stack did you use? If you didn't have some server side code experience in there then you're fucking useless for anything besides design and making cute myspace animations. At least learn angular if you're going to focus on JS.
Hunter Powell
Not him but I would say something that is actually compiled and can be applied to situations outside of web dev.
Austin Watson
Could you post an anonymized resume? I could give you some tips.
Liam Brooks
there are already plenty of people with 10+ years of experience fighting for the webdesign jobs. Sorry for your wasted time.
Nolan Campbell
>mfw 1 year out of cs degree,no job >mfw retard that failed courses needing to retake them, was on probation multiple times, and also finished a 4 year degree in 5 years gets a job within a month after graduating >his gpa must have been