Remember to not respond to the following shitposts: >Just install linux already >Cuck OS/Cuck license >Any attempts to derail thread with BSD vs GPL >BSD IS DEAD! >Enjoy your FBI backdoors >BSD stole from GPL >Enjoy NO SOFTWARE! >OPENBSD HAS NO JAILS OR MAC!
These are the most common shitposts, ignore them and don't respond.
But this is a thread about BSD, not the abortion Apple turned their BSD-like into.
Cooper Thomas
At least one guy per thread likes to post FUD about FBI backdoors in BSD, specifically OpenBSD which was never proven making it FUD.
Ayden King
Some ""bugs"" were actually found and gotten rid of as soon as it went public.
OpenBSD doesn't have many drivers
Hello again, /BSD/
Brody Russell
The bugs were found because the entire development team did an independent review for the backdoor, nothing was found. They found some bugs while searching for the backdoor.
Juan Scott
What's the most practical use for a *BSD?
James Morris
Routers
Mason Kelly
networking, servers, old machines, clusters, depending on which BSD
Nicholas Foster
Just use FreeBSD vulnerable by default
Brayden Torres
Is there any reason why to use *BSD for networking stuff instead of Linux? Easier to use, perhaps?
Jayden Martinez
>better tcp/ip implementation >better firewall Those are just the pros I know off hand, not sure if there are more
Noah Foster
>better tcp/ip implementation I've seen people talking about this a lot but never explaining why. I'll have to take a look at this...
Isaiah Ward
i never studied the TCP/IP stack but everyone does use it after all
the pf firewall is better than iptables though, iptables is so shit
Tyler Rodriguez
Does OpenBSD support IP over FireWire?
Henry Smith
I don't think firewire is implemented on any arch for some odd reason.
Well, the thing's pretty obscure, I suppose.
Parker Roberts
Oh, and wasn't firewire proprietary? That may help explain why it isn't supported.
Angel James
I guess I'll have to use FreeBSD for my firewall. I can install pf on it, right?
Lincoln Russell
It comes with it.
I heard the version is pretty ancient, but it should still do the job.
Ryan Evans
Their BSD (Darwin) is still out there for you to download. It just lacks software because it's developed by a team of small volunteer developers. I haven't used it personally but I heard it's pretty usable.
Jeremiah Johnson
i dont know what the point of using osx without cocoa and all that other shit is
Carter Robinson
You only really need those just to run proprietary OS X programs. It uses the same drivers and some of the same software as OS X if it's open source, like MacPorts. There isn't any point in using it other than just for the experience, learning about how to use it really. It doesn't offer anything extraordinary or different to other *BSD's.
Alexander Mitchell
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Josiah Clark
Btw, just to add on to my post, most of the security issues and bugs that people talk about in OS X are actually mostly in their proprietary frameworks which they use to run their proprietary programs. Darwin is mostly free of this stuff.
Daniel Ward
From what I read, you still need to use it on Apple hardware. So it's kind of useless to tinker with on a PC.
Jackson Sullivan
LOL NO >BSD >OpenBSD >>>Things working
Evan Evans
Having a hybrid kernel based in Mach should count, no?
Joshua Morales
Appears to be not supported in macppc.
Nicholas Kelly
I initially started using OpenBSD because it had better hardware support for my laptop than Linux or even Windows.
>coming to threads just to shit on things you know nothing about
Yes. It uses parts of code from a lot of other BSD kernels and it uses FreeBSD's network stack. Apple then decided to take all of that free software and turn it into their own proprietary system so they can make money off of it.
>inb4 evil Applel
Apple isn't the first nor is it the only company to do this, it has been done many times before.
Benjamin Jackson
I'm not saying that is bad really.
Joshua Cruz
Yeah I get where you're coming from, but using a hybrid kernel doesn't make it drastically different from other BSD's. I personally haven't used it because OpenBSD is really comfy and I stuck with it, but these guys www.puredarwin.org have done great work at making darwin available to the public and they have really good documentation as well. Alternatively, you can get the source code directly from apple and build it yourself, but that requires a bit more knowledge.
Ryan Bell
OpenBSD is quite comfy desu senpai
Jaxon Morris
Networking (you can make a pretty solid router by using a cheap thinkpad with openbsd on it), virtualisation (once OpenBSD finishes its hypervisor, but you have FreeBSD and DragonflyBSD to use as well), security, programming, general purpose use.
Owen Roberts
>router >thinkpad No just stop
Samuel Edwards
What? It's not incredibly difficult to turn an old laptop you have lying around into a router. You can do it with linux too.
Colton Bell
Most people buy new routers that can actually handle some traffic
Wyatt Robinson
And? Just because something is brand new doesn't mean it's good. Most laptops and computers have much more powerful hardware capable of handling traffic than routers. In fact router hardware is known to be bad and overheat a lot, it needs to keep resetting itself every 6 hours or so. The most powerful processor you'd probably get in a consumer grade router is a quad core with like 1.6 ghz clock or something.
Jackson Edwards
They are not thinkpads
Luis Hernandez
I'm using an x220 as a router and DNS. What's your point? You can even do this with a fucking raspberry pi if you wanted to, you're overestimating how powerful your hardware needs to be for a router.
Daniel Bell
the only specialized hardware that consumer routers have is used for the switch, or a MoCA port if your ISP uses that. otherwise, it's just a low-power ARM or MIPS computer that handles every packet in software. a laptop will offer greater processing power and thus greater potential throughput, while still maintaining relatively low power consumption (not to mention having a built-in battery backup, and keyboard/screen for when you need to do out-of-band configuration)
Christian Gray
> >I'm using an x220 as a router and DNS. What's your point? You can even do this with a fucking raspberry pi if you wanted to, you're overestimating how powerful your hardware needs to be for a router.
This depends all how fast your connection is also >edgerouter lite is less then 90 bucks Your thinkpad is useless as a router when cheaper hardware can achieve more and better. You can even install Gentoo or OpenBSD on the edgerouter but then you won't have their hardware offload.
Isaiah Wright
But a Thinkpad only has one nic. I do love the idea of it otherwise. Is there a work around for that?
Bentley Martin
I like BSD but why is the community so cringy with their 3D women? >Look mom I'm such an adult, I like older women like a real man!
Nathan Rogers
What the fuck are you even talking about? You're projecting bright as hell user. If you want anime or loli art of BSD, you'll have to make your own because there is very little of it.
Brandon Hernandez
>If you want anime or loli art of BSD That's not what I was trying to say
Ian Price
>bsd thread >half the posts are about apple >other half are people arguing bsd is bad
what gives guys. the only thing i've gotten so far is that it has better firewalls. my linux NAT works just fine as a firewall. why is openwrt a linux flavor?
John Torres
Then what were you trying to say because it made no sense.
Juan Foster
Men like women regardless of their age. It's why we have women and sex practically everywhere, from adverts to product branding. It's just nature, you can't reprogram the way humans think.
Ryan Rivera
Shitposters love fucking up BSD threads, what's new?
Daniel Adams
Smart and educated people use *BSD, it's working for them. They don't waste their time shitposting on Sup Forums, they have other productive things to do.
