/hpg/ - Headphone General

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Wireless is frowned upon.
Headset requests are frowned upon.
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What headphones will make my anime and vocaloid music not shit?

This one

probably the wrong thread, but

>upgrade from senn e835 to e935
>now we're cookin with butter
>friend lends me sm 58
>spend half an hour trying to convince myself that I like the sm58 over the e935
>fail

If you believe in KyoAni shows AKG headphones.

fuck, I mean i liked the sm58 more

Scared to even try the new rabu raibu shit since the music from the original series was so garbage and a good example of horrible mastering.

Anyone know of some good positional audio headphones, that are closed?

Ether C

nth for 668b's are the best thing china has ever exported

Doing some mods to a pair of MDR V6s, going to split the cable and terminate at 3.5mm TS on each side rather than having the wire run over the headband. I found some cheap TS connectors and sockets, but I'm not sure what kind of cable to get to match the stock thick rubberised cable.

Anyone know of some similar cable? It's rubberised and about 3.5mm diameter, quite heavy.

i got the 681 evo instead, did i get rekt?

they look more comfy and they're closed back so probably not that big of a difference

Is it even possible to find decent comfy headphones for 60~ eur

They are very different headphones.

Why are you so entitled to shit the OP ?
Your OP pics are better than those of the other faggot thought.

also the most uncomfortable
like holy fuck
those things need a pad change unless you want ear cancer

Does anyone know an alternative to the focusrite audio interfaces that have power from the wall?

my mic needs a bit more than what USB would deliver to power it properly

otherwise ill just buy a chinky full 48v supply off ebay

Anyone here that have IEMs where the cable go behind the ear and also wear glasses? Looking at Shure 215s but I'm afraid the cable will just fall off or it won't be comfortable.

a friend is looking for a pair of headphones. trying to help him out, but the budget is what it is. any suggestions?

>Budget
70€, could spend 100€ if it's worth it.

>Location
EU

>Source
average audio output from the computer

>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized, over ear

>Open or closed
closed

>Comfort level
good

>Preferred tonal balance
neutral or rock music

>The definition of the word doesn't mean anything more than a person enthusiastic about audio.
your reading comprehension is piss poor if you think that what it says
>It doesn't have a negative tone
that's the point i've been stressing throughout the whole conversation

Why is wireless frowned upon? I'm thinking of getting new wireless headphones but this op has me worried, what's so bad about them?

Is SHP9500 my best bet for 80 bucks

something something audio quality cant something bluetooth

Can you guys help me decide between Beyerdynamic DT-990 (250 Ohm version) and AKG K-701.

To be completely honest, the reason I'm undecided is entirely aesthetic. The K-701 look so much better than the DT-990, which I was completely set on buying until a friend linked me the AKGs.

Are they comparable or is one obviously inferior?

I own ath meme50xs but I also want better computer speakers or speakers I can use on my computer.

My buddy told me cr3 mackies were pretty good and cheap at only $80 a pair on sale often.

Is there any other speakers that would be better than this at the $100 price range? I could not find a thread for speakers on this or Sup Forums.

>Budget
150€ to 200€.

>Location
Germany

>Source
Just a good ol' PC

>Preferred type of headphone
Around ear.

>Open or closed
Open.

>Comfort level
Comfy as fuck

>Preferred tonal balance
Bassy as fuck.

>Past headphones
Superlux 668B

Hit me big bois

Bump

>not auditioning microphones first

You are a goddamn faggot.

>Asking "Hey guys, what's your opinion on x?" is frowned upon.
>Wireless is frowned upon.
>Headset requests are frowned upon.
why is this dogshit still in the op?

Looking for a pair of headphones, never had any in my life, except shitty poundshop ones. Tried my friend's on and it was an experience to say the least.

I never really knew what sound quality was, and I was just wondering if these were any good?

Sennheiser Urabnite XL (overear), they're in my budget and have been told they're a good brand.

I put it in the OP literally just to trigger you. It's a game I play here in /hpg/ that I like to call "find the autist". Some people go bass fishing, some people go deep sea fishing... me? I go fishing for retards. Looks like you're the catch of the day, kid. Next time think before you post, because you just might find yourself in my crosshairs again.

Can someone explain to me how a headphone that has both wireless bluetooth and wired options sounds better wireless than it does wired? seems backwards to me

Memed kiddo

okay boys, redirected here from Sup Forums
Are there any headphones in the 100-200 range that are actually good and wearable in public?
I am considering m50x but that kinda defeats the point because I have decent speakers at home and i'm not gonna wear m50x in public.
If you haven't guessed they're supposed to be used for music.

dt 770 80ohm lad

What are my best options besides ath m50x and sennheiser momentum if I wish for good cans for music/playing vidya? Music is mostly edm/trap/dubstep

Solo 2 is pretty decent.

Soundtrue II is also a good option.

Sennheiser Momentum as well.

M50/DT770 looks large and goofy. Personally I use IEMs in public.

Is it possible to power my KRK monitors with the Jotunheim, or what are all the XLR ports for?

Would it also be a good fit for the Hifiman HE560?

thanks boys, i was considering momentum aswell. just for confirmation is it the version in pic related

That's the on ear variant. The momentum 2.0 ivory apple is 210 usd on amazon.

(asking for a friend, not myself)
>Budget

£10 - 80

>Location

United Kingdom (mainland)

>Source

Generic motherboard sound card

>Preferred type of headphone

Fully sized over ear (e.g. sennheiser hd 598)

>Open or closed

Open preferably, but I don't really mind

>Comfort level

Comfy. The headphones that you can just wear for like 4 hours and not even realize you have them on - though if you can get headphones that sound better by being less comfy, that is preferred .

>Preferred tonal balance

neutural/v shaped.

>Past headphones

"some crappy turtle beach headset that I've had for 3 or so years, I've lost the box so I couldn't give you an exact model. I've had the earbuds that come with the galaxy line of headphones (both the wired shape ones that go directly into the ear canal and the generic shaped earbuds), though I have tried out things like the beyerdynamic dt 990 and overall liked them - I listen to mostly rock, and edm and it overall was alright for those genres but the dt 990s were like £130"

I'd go for momentums, I have a pair that I managed to get on clearence for £35 and they're pretty neat, and look decent for outside use (they also dont leak sound)

How much is your budget? I remeber some sennheiser exec saying that they're designed specificaly for fashion, so the sound quality isn't as good as other headphones.

I'd see if you can get some xiaomi hybrid earbuds, they're usually around $15 and are honestly pretty good for anime and vocaloid shit.

Have you tried dumpster diving computer stores for headphones? Also generaly physical stores usualy put up old models for clearence (E.G. I got a pair of sennheiser momentums 1.0 on ear for over 70% off due to clearence for momentum 2.0 which I've heard isn't too different)

if you want neutral open back, yeah.

not tried the over ear versions, but I have those in blue, and they are COMFY.

>Have you tried dumpster diving computer stores for headphones? Also generaly physical stores usualy put up old models for clearence (E.G. I got a pair of sennheiser momentums 1.0 on ear for over 70% off due to clearence for momentum 2.0 which I've heard isn't too different)

No one even sells those kinds of headphones here in Lithuania. You can only get sennheisers and ATH up to m50x here. I'd buy a NVX XPT100, but the fucking Amazon 35$ shipping is just too much, and you can't find anything even remotely similar here

I prefer closed headphones, btw.

Neither of those are good options. Fill out and post a purchase advice form. We don't know what you actually want without giving us the info, man.

HD518, and swap the pads with 558/598 pads if you don't like them. I find they're a bit firm. They're decently warm and quite comfy.

or any of the older gen HD series really. HD 555 is good.

SHP 9500 if you want neutral. Has comfort issues in my opinion, but i've found others quite liked them. I think its due to my facial hair. I'm not sure if you can get replacement pads without modifying the headphones themselves.

Test in stores if you can.

Those headphones use active circuitry to alter the response when the bluetooth is on. The circuitry doesn't work in passive mode although that would be possible had the designers made it so. It's just a baked EQ profile which is something more headphones could use imo. Bluetooth is hardly detrimental to perceived audio quality over short distances.

KRKs are powered, they just need a line level signal from another device and that's what the pre-outs in Jotunheim are for. You can use RCA(unbalanced) or XLR(balanced) outputs. As for the Hifiman, it will certainly be able to power them.

Actually wondering the same, I'm about to buy some dynaudio bm15a monitors and was wondering if I could plug them on th Jotunheim.

>Budget
$100-$130 or so, don't mind used so if it's $180 and I can find it used in Amazon for $140~ it's fine

>Location
USA

>Source
Decent motherboard sound card (ASUS Z97-A)

>Preferred type of headphone
Fully sized over ear

>Open or closed
Open

>Comfort level
Comfy is preferred, but sound quality is much more important. I'll be using them for hours without break but I'll manage.

>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral

Looking for the absolute best, planning on using them for years but I'm on a budget (and it doesn't look like it's getting any better soon).

How safe is it to buy used on amazon?

HD 558 if you want a slightly warm sound signature
not sure if you can fit 559 in your budget, but those are an option if you can
theyre both brilliant for all day use due to their comfort and slightly rolled off highs


i would assume so
hell, if you're worried, record yourself unboxing the package and check it once over for anything fukt on it.

as long as its doccumented, i'd assume amazon would guarantee your shit is right

actually, scratch what i said about the 555
had a re-listen and there not quite as good as i last remembered, more veiled than the 518/558/598

Got both my ER4XR and ER4SR.

Surprisingly, both sound very close, it's only on bassier music that you are able to distinguish the difference with the ER4XR having more body and impact to the sound. What's really nice is that the ER4XR's bass boost isn't muddy.

Both are 10/10 IEMs but I can't help but feel disappointed as I already own an ER-4PT (with ER-4S adapter). The ER-4S and ER4SR sound identical. The ER4XR and ER-4PT sound quite different, the ER-4PT has less treble and is less fatiguing but less accurate in the mids and highs.

My preference lies with the ER-4PT, maybe I'm just too accustomed to its signature. I find that the ER-4S / ER4SR / ER4XR can become a bit bright at times.

Sound comparison:

ER4SR = ER-4S
ER4XR = ER4SR with bass boost
ER-4PT = ER-4S with less upper midrange and treble

I should stop hoarding now.

How is the build? Packaging and contents? Anything else worth nothing past the sound signature which is kind of obvious from the plots already.

Build and fit is roughly the same as the old ER-4, I haven't detached the cable as yet. The new design is supposedly better for around the ear use but I haven't tried that as yet.

Packaging is like this image except each pair comes with a L+R frequency response certificate.

Gone are the old flange tips, I always used the smaller frosty tips so I can't comment on how the new larger flange tips compare to the older ones.

If you're familiar with the older ER-4 there is really nothing new to speak about, the new case is nicer and offers better protection.

i wanna spend somewhere from 200 to 300 dollars

is it possible to make youtube playlists sound better this way just with the headphones alone and leaving the quality default? if so what pair would you recommend, guys

can any of you recommend good shitty headphones? and what I mean is, I need to get a pair of headphones my mom can use to watch videos on her facebook; basically, comfortable enough to wear for hours at a time and relatively physically durable, sound quality doesn't really matter too much.

there's a type called over ear headphones, and they encase the ears.

im sure you can find some for like 50 bucks or less on major internet retailers

look at the superlux 662 EVO
they fit superlux'es bang for buck good sound for the budget type motif they've got going on
velour pads, so comfy, and removable cable so they won't fuckin rip out if it gets stuck under a chair wheel or something

these look good, thanks

Is it a bad idea that I bought this?
TEAC AI-101DA
Not many reviews out there......

In summary they are a DAC,Headphone and Speaker Amp + allows choosing source on the fly including Bluetooth. Feature wise its awesome but i wonder if the sound is OK?

is it bluetooth 4.0/4.1?
if so then it'll sound fine even with high end gear

something to keep in mind:
youtube.com/watch?v=PpffkWPY6Dk

they do have clamping force issues, but its remedied easily.
and don't put the 'cable clip' thing, as it kind of negates the whole removable cable.

I've been having problems with my Modi ever since I reinstalled W10. Every time I plug it in the port fails and gives me a "Port Reset Failed" message. It worked before I did the clean install, and I've only had problems with it since.

Has anybody else had this problem and fixed it?

Is the M40x the best closed headphone under $100?

Yes.
No.
Maybe.

If you change the pads, potentially.
The build quality on them is still pretty bad, and some don't like the headband.

In terms of sound quality, They're on par with some MDRs. If you can, try them out in store and compare with other headphones in the pricerange.

youtube.com/watch?v=qjTExsg_EsE
This review had me cracking up bad

Why is wireless frowned upon?

lower quality on earlier versions of bluetooth
money spent on things other than comfort/build quality/sound/whatever else
often over-estimated utility

So current versions of Bluetooth are fine then?

>often over-estimated utility
speak for yourself

The vast majority of people that go out of the way to buy wireless are going to get very little to no additional utility out of wireless.

Wireless means 100% of the amplification and signal processing has to be done inside the headset. Power source included.

It's shit for basically 100% of applications that aren't an office telecom headset.

You have preconceived notions that it is somehow bad.

Wireless can be done right. Example; LG tone headsets are super accurate.

depends on the level of your expectations
if you are used to shit like LCD-X with expensive ass amps and dacs, you might be disappointed

otherwise, yes, its perfectly capable as long as you have a capable device

its just a question of money in the end

sorry that some people somehow think walking around without a cable is worth degrading in sound quality for the same price

basically, yeah
though i'd add exercise to that list since mobility is often key

It has nothing to do with that.

Regardless of what you choose, you're compromising in some way. In the case of wireless, you're paying for a feature that has only one advantage (mobility within a limited radius). For the same money, a wired pair of headphones will sound better.

They'll be more versatile, you'll have more options for driving them, they won't be constrained by battery life, and you have far FAR more choices. It isn't that they can't be done right, it's that good implementations are few and far between and the value is objectively worse than a wired alternative.

In return for giving all that up, you're getting just the mobility, a feature that will be really utilized in a way that a cord wouldn't have done just as well almost never for most people.

That's why it's shit.

>For the same money, a wired pair of headphones will sound better.
Perhaps you mean a different headphone, right?

Two identical headphones, a wired and a wireless version should not sound different if the latter was implemented properly.

>if the latter was implemented properly.
Not the same poster but this functions only if the manufacturer doesn't act to maximize profits and put the cheapest amp and receiver that adhere's to standards in the wireless version . . . which everyone knows they are going to do.

If you're talking the same pair of headphones, a wired version and a wireless version, and they are the same price either...

>The wireless version is shit.
>The wired pair is a ripoff.

Pick one, because economically it's guaranteed to be one or the other.

And none of that is bad and none can be generalized to be worse than the whatever device it would be driving the headphones wired. And fuck, even in the case manufacturer is incompetent and somehow manages to audibly butcher the sound quality over a short range wireless transmission, people can still value the audibly worse sound quality with wireless headphones over a better sounding wired one.

I'm quite fond of the QC35's as a wireless headset, perfect for my commute and casual home listening.

Looking for new over ear headphones after my 900xs broke. I listen to all types of music. Recommendations?

> US
>PC + amp
>over ear
>Open
>Long use 7-8 hours at a time
>Neutral perferred
>Audiotechnica ATH-AD900x

Not like mobile phones have the best headphone outputs (capacitive coupling, varying output impedance, roll-offs). At least on the wireless headset you can control everything, the headphones won't be underpowered.

30 dollars plus and you get the HD600.

seems like HD600's are right in your budget
and if you frequent /hpg/ you should know how well loved they are here

Sennheiser HD600
AKG K7XX (massdrop)

Would both be solid bets.

k7xx aren't neutral

That's nice but irrelevant to the current discussion comparing a wired to a wireless version as there isn't a wired version.

Thanks anons, I can't believe I never considered the hd600s.

>Not like mobile phones have the best headphone outputs
Actually, there are quite a few smartphones (Samsung since the S4, most iphones) that are quite good but that's a different discussion.

They're supposed to have a little more bass on the bottom end than the K702's, and I personally found the K702 a little lean though with great soundstage and detail. I haven't heard the K7XX but based on that I feel like they'd be pretty neutral.

just watch out if your source can't push HD600's
most phones can, but if youre just using mobo audio i'd be wary

He already stated in his post he's using an amp. Basically any amp he's using will be enough to drive them.

What amp do you have user? I'm sure unless it's a piece of shit it'll do great.

You may be right but those are flagship phones.

K7XX is really warm in tone. Reminds me of HD518.

oh yeah sorry i've not slept
can't read

I honestly have a bias towards a slightly warm tone anyway so that makes perfect sense. In that case, the 702's are probably objectively a very neutral headphone.

K702 isn't neutral though.

The frequency response is too wonky to be neutral.

What do you consider a "neutral" headphone in that case?

Looking for ISOLATION headphones that are also good for playing music. Been looking at vic firths but Im dubious about the sound and build quality. Any recommendations? (Should be able to block instrument playing at higher volumes). Also if possible I would like them to look like takstar pro80/brainwavz that kind of look..

tl;dr need headphones for instrument playing and listening to music all in one