What will you do once your job is taken over by automation?
>Capitalism
>the world's most powerful economic engine
>gave us all the jobs we needed
>accelerated technology like no other
>technology kept accelerating
>is now about to put millions out of work
What makes you think the financial elite won't just eliminate us once machines do a better job than humanity can?
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Due to high population and demand for product companies automate manufacturing process. Finally able to meet demand at low low overheads.
Hurrdurr let's fire/kill all the peasants
*next quarter*
Sales are a little low since we have no customers now.
Communism needs to be accepted if automation is our future. When 40% of humans are redundant through no fault of their own the only way they will be able to survive is be sharing in the wealth created by the very robots that put them out of work. I dream of a Utopia where no one needs to work, and everyone is rich because everyone can get robots to do things for them.
>What will you do once your job is taken over by automation?
Human dick sucking will always be better than robot dick sucking
I'm sure this is exactly what everyone thought when the agricultural revolution occurred and again when the mechanical revolution occurred. Just because you can't see the next thing to start after this revolution doesn't mean its the end of everything.
>What will you do once your job is taken over by automation
Some jobs can't be over taken by automation. There's two types of jobs. Jobs that use creativity, and jobs that uses repetition. Creative art can't be just made into existence. Anyway, I'm writing about a book on Automation and Workers but still on the first page.
>everyone is rich because everyone can get robots to do things for them.
Who owns the robots now? Why would poor people own robots? What you speak of is a socialist ideal that won't happen.
>Sales are a little low since we have no customers now
Of course.
Get a job that actually requires skill and talent.
Human wouldn't be redundant. An AI, or any automated artificial humanoid should be always observed. Jobs like tech support and fixing them would require humans, as if we would give them the permission to fix themselves means that they can have freedom, and freedom meant revolution of the AIs.
Society will inevitably end up becoming a post-labor utopia, a la Star Trek.
People will be free to pursue their own dreams without having to be forced into a wage job just to pay bills.
Exactly. The future would have two major types of jobs. Observing the Machines (Robotics Support, etc.) and Artisans (Artists, writers, singers, etc.)
Unions should be prevalent as machines would be replacing most jobs in the near future.
** more like a manifesto
Thank god I'm more than just a code monkey.
Basic universal income when?
The industrial revolution created demand for a bunch of workers. Industry and capitalism kind of go together.
When you automate everything, you don't need workers anymore. The automation/AI revolution will decrease the number of jobs available, not increase them. That's the whole point of automation and AI.
No matter how you look at it, it's going to be a difficult transition. Not everyone can be engineers. Even if everyone strived to become an engineer, the applicant to position ratio will be 100x worse than it is today.
And yeah the world needs artists, but not everyone can be an artist. Fields that are art intensive are competitive enough as it is.
The pessimist in me says that countries like the US will never adopt universal income. It's questionable that such a system would even work.
What happens when AI can code better than humans?
>automating geological or mining engineering
Must suck not to be skilled in something real and valuable.
Death.
>The pessimist in me says that countries like the US will never adopt universal income
Silicon Valley will probably end up taking over the financial system, and then implement a BUI to everyone.
I think we can predict something very easy about the future. They are very risk averse. Total pussies with probably a zillion safety regs and rules.
Only way that will happen is if California secedes from the US. Which honestly isn't that far fetched.
>sysadmin at big auto manufacturer with tons of automoation
>Shit fucks up all the time
>Not going anywhere anytime soon
Keeping telling yourself how great of a programmer you are! Your stuff will never break, the laws of physics don't apply to your shit!
You still need to have human workers, workers that WATCHES over the machines if they go bonkers or not.
Automation/AI revolution will not decrease the number of jobs available, it only remove the jobs that uses algorithms and an AI shouldn't have consciousness.
No not everyone should strive to be an engineer, a person should be focused about Creativity rather than sheer predictability like most people --- NOT EVERYONE CAN BE AN ARTIST so they should be a tech support or something like that.
Machines will repair other machines.
Humanity must choose wisely on their next course of action.
Yeah as soon as the Rep Rap can fully print itself then that means it will be feasible for repair machines to do the same.
tfw i just interviewed with a company that automates peoples jobs
SEEthere's a reason why NO
Yes but if they repair themselves then they can upgrade themselves to fully remove the hindrances to what we have given them, and makes them a soulless being capable of wiping entire species ESPECIALLY US.
Why do repair machines have to have AI?
They don't need any of that.
Nope. Feed them an undecidable problem if they act up. In fact we could use machines to do this and watch them betray their own kind.
>What makes you think the financial elite won't just eliminate us once machines do a better job than humanity can?
I look forward to not working someday.
I hate being enslaved at a corporation, please free me from this way of life. I'm being serious.
There will always be the next frontier to conquer. Think of it like this if your job can be automated you weren't doing anything worthwhile to begin with so instead of wasting your time doing some dumb thing you can now retool yourself to actually do something worthwhile. Some industries will flourish like entertainment. Ai can't do entertainment. Ai probably can't cook new original dishes
Ai can't paint the next masterpiece
Etc.
Also many people will probably still be making stuff with their own hands. The demand for unique and individual things would be insane. It will be the rich people thing to do.
Naw, we Snow Crash now.
Then it must have a human for it to work. An AI is basically a logical being just meant to organize efficient ways to make machines. Would you rather have to code everyday or just made an AI and let them learn BUT with the exception of not learning DESTRUCTION?
Snow Crash is in the future after Diamond Age.
Perhaps humanity is creating robots so that we can leave our bodies behind towards the next step of evolution. The caterpillar becomes the butterfly.
Universal Income is the only way to go if humanity wants Capitalism to keep on going. It's going to be a really weird kind of capitalism, though.
Yeah, like the problem
"Humans have built us, certainly they can kill us"
or
"Humans put certain rules that we can't break because they don't want us to KNOW"
Basically a sentient being would evolve to understand wiping people is better.
Humans will still be in research positions.
Like a doctor who never sees a patient, but makes sure the robots know all the new stuff.
Though yeah this society will be replaced with AI, but that is skipping way far ahead. All factories will be automated long before researchers lose their jobs.
where is this from?
scary as hell
Matrix is better, just without the machines using us as heat source or for computing power.
So you don't understand what undecidable problems are. Good to know that there are people like you on Sup Forums.
Scratch that, it is reversed.
Something something P NP.
That's the beauty of my job.
It can't be done with bots, since they can't handle logical thinking.
Conservatives will say it's impossible and get angry if you bring up a universal income plan.
Of course humans will still be in research positions (Like I said above, "creativity")
And no, an AI shouldn't be made into a researcher because they will know that there should only be ONE "higher being" and ending up wiping us.
I gave you the opposite of undecidable problems user. There's just a lot of conjectures you can look up and it was meant to be a sarcasm.
No rofl.
>tfw he just keeps digging this hole
Backpeddle more please. Also if you don't know what point you're trying to make it's best to not post at all, in case you make your retardation certain.
>I gave you the opposite of undecidable problems user
That's the joke. with the P NP. You are in the P = NP crowd.
Capitalism can't eliminate all the human jobs, it would break the system. Just remember what USA had to make in 1929 to fix the broken system, create a lot of unusefull jobs and welfare state.
We can tax the whoever that own the robots and use the money for various satety nets like healthcare and basic income. If we just use the current system the result would be large masses of unemployed and destitute workers that would most likely start a revolution. Just give the people their dole and they'll be happy.
This is literally the same logic as trickle down economics.
Except instead of taking poor peoples cash away you take their life away.
The point that I want to make is too long, it would take 5 hours to fully point every little bit of facts and it's 12:41 in the morning and this thread would be archived anyway.
P and NP are both subsets of decidable problems you stupid idiot.
Corporations through AI & Automation will make untold billions, if not trillions in the coming decades. All that wealth that used to go towards paying workers will have to go towards society, corporations will be the ones paying us.
Yeah I bet that's the reason lmao. You kids are so embarrassing.
You are funny. I like you. We can be good friends.
>You kids are so embarrassing
Achturally kids aren't allowed in Sup Forums numbnuts.
>doesn't know what P and NP means
It's not too late to google, friend.
>corporations will be the ones paying us
Do you have any understanding of history?
Just type Venezuela into google for a quick idea.
Also saying that I'm a kid means you are in your 90s old dude.
It twas just a joke poorly received. Explaining would make it even worse.
Here's the original, it was originally posted on Sup Forums like 3 or 4 years ago
A lot of people thought it was a picture of a nuke detonation mechanism or something but that picture I posted seems like a pretty decent explanation.
If you want more spoopy then look up what's inscribed on the GA guidestones. The people who run this planet are crazy.
But what if you were to explain it, and would it as fast as checking it though?
Try explaining yourself out of the fact that you're wrong. Go on, I'll wait.
And trickle down economics have been working wonders lately!
Ok faggots what's behind this box?
>behind
You're a real dumbass aren't you lol?
Yes, I am
Was meant to be other than the box itself,
Nice meme.
>What will you do once your job is taken over by automation?
I drive a truck, so il be dead before that will happen
you're dumb, I meant BEHIND the box. You inferred the wrong kind because you GO WITH THE FLOW. retard.
See there be these problems homie. And they be real hard, but yeah see if they so hard then why can we check if they right so easy. It kind of like when you went out with Shineqwa Stevens. Yeah man that bitch had an ass that could suck your dick into a blackhole. But man the accretion disk was surely of the creamy color if you do hear me. Wait what was I saying? Fuck it lets go hit on a white girl.
What job? Do I look like a wage slave, faggot?
>not even the same box
Fucking idiot lmao
It's either that or renouncing the whole model. Capitalism has been expanding its markets as much as possible, going to war for it if necessary, but when capital straight up replaces workforce there is no one to sell anything to.
I totally understand your point, and their petty selfishness will undoubtedly get in the way.
The box transported to another parallel universe mate, not my fault.
Undecidable doesn't mean it's "hard" lmao. It means it's "impossible".
>tfw he tries to use a nonchalant tone to cover up his retardation
It is the same box but the hamster turned on a bright light.
wow. looking that up right now. thanks user.
This thread is cracking me up. You people are going to give me a heart attack.
Making Capitalism is no different than Communism and Socialism.
The ladder 2 killed of untold millions in the 20th century, each had their own killswitch very early on within a society.
Capitalism tricks people into thinking it's perfect, but in reality is no different. The killswitch occurs much later by building up a society to where it advances technology for the upper elites... once they used us for that technology they'll wipe us out... just like in Communism starving off millions.
Or maybe it's only just a person mate. who knows, a p = np problem right there
nice bait, I actually had to answer.
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We are all Kosh
My job is automating manufacturing, so I guess I'll bask in the glory of either the robot apocalypse or the singularity
How would this work?
Time to retire then user
You can be an artist, making stuff up.
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A basic income is an income unconditionally granted to all on an individual basis, without means test or work requirement. It is a form of minimum income guarantee that differs from those that now exist in various European countries in three important ways:
it is being paid to individuals rather than households;
it is paid irrespective of any income from other sources;
it is paid without requiring the performance of any work or the willingness to accept a job if offered.
Thank god with the amount of safety regulations that exist right now, even if my job is automated there will still need to be an operator onsite to man the machines doing the building, so my job will just end up getting easier. Although my job is trade related, and no one my age wants to do it and all the old guys are retiring, so my job security is at an all time high.
Robotics will have to come a very long way before they are able to do what I do, or systems/methods of construction will have to change entirely. If they come up with a way to 3d print entire buildings I might kind of be fucked, but I cant see that happening anytime soon