/pcbg/- PC Building General

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>Assemble your parts list with price comparisons by vendor and compatibility filter.
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>Have a budget, but don't know where to start? This will recommend you a parts list based on price.
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>General build advice including chipset compatibility, power supply advice, Windows activation information.
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>Information about how to build a pc, how to select components, and much, much more advice.
wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Build_a_PC

- Post your list, rate other user's, ask questions in general.

- Always state the purpose of your PC and your budget. If you are asking for improvements, clarify whether you want to lower price, or improve specs or build quality.

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pcpartpicker.com/list/qzzqm8
pcpartpicker.com/list/gxyjZ8
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186&cm_re=fury-_-14-202-186-_-Product
gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-730-vs-AMD-R7-250/m12582vsm8217
youtube.com/watch?v=B58ciXUTlA8
geforce.com/drivers/results/87789
tomshardware.com/forum/id-3047729/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1000-series-megathread-faq-resources.html#17902598
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Should i waste my money on this fine shitposting machine?

Yes.

Only 600w is okay tho

what the fuck is up with the meme that your pc must have a SSD? like i see people pretending that its some kind of a reguirement, I even seen some go as far as putting a 120gb SSD and no other storage.

CPU: i7-6700K
Just meme my shit up, pham

Motherboard could be cheaper also.

pcpartpicker.com/list/vqjwcc

I guess I'll switch out the ram for something less memey, anything else? i'm ready to just buy the thing

Is pic related my best bet if I want a fullsized graphics card in a Mini-ITX case?

I didnt fall for this meme yet.

>Is pic related my best bet if I want a fullsized graphics card in a Mini-ITX case?

Pic related. In pic it is housing a radeon 7990. Only thing is if you want good cpu cooling or a lot of hard drives, this isn't the case for you. You'll be running either stock cooler or a 120mm AiO for the cpu. Can fit up to 3 ssds. Or 2 and 1 3.5" drive. The 2 ssd mount points take up the DVD drive though.

What semi/full modular 80+ gold psu do you suggest?

Such as?
>inb4 Biostar

Put a Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO, its way cheaper nigger

Drop the mobo, crossfire and sli are memes

RAM is okay but i would get 3000 to save some.

are there any video cards that still come with 2x DVI ports? none of my monitors have an HDMI port :\

>rose
user...

what mobo should I get instead?

>buy stuff that I'd like now or wait 2 months for black friday

Any dickpics of him?

>falling for the Jew Friday meme

It's usually a $20 difference over an average size spinny drive and gives any PC at all a noticeable boost in startup and file saving/loading
The price/Gb is literally the only reason to stay with HDDs

Nah, I always pick the cheapest EVGA 600 i can get. Is not like you would have problems with a 1070.

Such as?
pcpartpicker.com/products/compare/R8M323,Fn7CmG/

Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3 is one of many

I'm fine with no HDDs, but need a decent CPU cooler.

Because people are dumb. If your budget is so tight you can only have a 120GB ssd, then get a mech 1TB drive hands down. Other than that, ssd is like night and day compared to HDD for everyday use. Boot times no with standing, even bargain bin ssds are much much faster than even the fastest mech disk. Seek times are drastically improved so there is no more waiting for anything. I can literally have my PC start cold, have Firefox, steam, and my remote desktop connection up after 10 seconds of hitting the desktop. SSD storage is so cheap now, there really is no reason to NOT have one.
Not a meme if it benefits you. Only people who claim SSDs are a waste or meme are those who have never used one.

I do a lot of video editing and I can say the difference beteeen using a mech disk or ssd as scratch space is leagues apart. Render times are faster, everything is. Even 2 mech disks in raid 0 can't compete. Then you also have to worry about array failure. Plus the problem of disk noise etc.

>ashley
user...

It'll fit bigger AiO 120mm cookers like the H80i GT.

Is this still better than buying an off-the-shelf $1200 8-bay shell of a NAS?
pcpartpicker.com/list/H6YMbj

The same one in

The only cheaper 600-650W, semi-modular, gold certified psu is a Corsair CSM and if i have to chose between corsair and SeaSonic, i take the later.

>Gigabyte GA-Z170-HD3
The Asus is actually cheaper in EU, but the prices here compared to USA are way too high anyways.

I see.

Pull the trigger

depends on how lazy you are. I am pretty lazy so I picked up a synology 1812 and haven't had a hitch yet. I would also wager that one of their enclosures will be quieter and cooler than one you build yourself.

>pay 20$ more or less to get one tenth the storage and a faster boot

makes sense

Can you torrent and seed from them?

What if my build has no fans?

There is nothing obviously wrong with your build.

If you care about saving money you could cut cost on your HSF / Mobo/ Case/ Ram

You probably don't NEED 16gb of ram or a Full tower or one of the best Nocturna HSFs.

But if the cost isn't a problem. You're good to go.

pcpartpicker.com/list/FZWv3F
Any criticism is welcome.

Exactly, do that and make it your boot drive, and since HDDs are going way down in price since the market is dying, use a cheapass spinny for data that isn't time intensive
The most noticeable difference is boot times, but if you save and load huge files often, an SSD is without question worth it

My punishment box for the piece of shit nephew I have that keeps downloading viruses onto my workstation whenever he comes over
pcpartpicker.com/list/qzzqm8
How can I make it worse and get away with it?

Soundcards are dumb, and fucking $170 for 16gb 2800mhz ram is dumb too.
Get 2x8gb 3000mhz ram for $80

Sorry for that late response user, I only game. So I guess stick to the 6600k, instead of the 6700k Should I upgrade the psu as well? I've had the 650 corsair psu for about 3 years now. My GPU is a fury X

pcpartpicker.com/list/gxyjZ8

ok, I made some recommended changes and now the price is $100+ lower which is p nice

what else should I do? I have fan autism so I need something quiet. would the 212 evo still be ok? or stick with this noctua one?

>le

Thanks so far.

I do care about saving money, but i also care about quality and reliability. I made some mistakes with my current pc, like stock cooler, shit psu, shit case because i was on a tight budget 6 years ago.
I won't do the same mistake twice, but if you have reasonable suggestions, please go on.
>HSF
Such as? Should be silent, performant and don't have the weight of the typical tumblr user.
>Mobo
The Asus is already one of the cheaper option. The only real Z170 alternatives would be the MSI Z170A PC Mate and the ASRock Z170 Pro4, but the price difference is marginal.
>Case
Such as? I selected this one because it's fairly priced and has everything i need, as i mentioned, i won't make the same mistake twice.
>RAM
This is already very cheap (cheapest one is 71€, crucial is 76€) and i need 16GB for work.

>212 evo
I see a lot of people recommending it.

Well it looks okay, im not familiar with the Fury. Is it the reference Fury? I seen good review about the Nitro Fury.

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Damn son, who pissed in your cornflakes?

In a need for a cheap and reliable Graphics Card

I already got a PC, I just need a new Graphics Card, because my old one doesn't work

My CPU: AMD Athlon II X4 640 3.00 GHz

My motherboard: Gigabyte Technology Co. Ltd. M68MT-D3P (Socket M2)

RAM: 4.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 669MHz (9-9-9-24)

PC Case: Thermaltake V3 Black Edition 1x120mm

Power Supply: A.PFC 550W FAN12 Ci-POWER CWT

Screen: Samsung SyncMaster S23B300, 23", Max resolution: FULL HD

I'll only use this card for browsing the internet and playing YouTube videos in FULL HD, nothing more, those are the ONLY things I'll do with it

The only 2 things I want from this card are:

1) It needs to be reliable, I want to use it as many years as possible

2) It needs to be the cheapest card possible (Taking in mind the fact that I want it to be reliable, and to use it as many years as possible

Thanks a lot!

I know it's recommended a lot but that may just be price/performance ratio, not taking into account noise level

it's this fury
newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186&cm_re=fury-_-14-202-186-_-Product

If the guy who was planning to dual-SLI 1070 in a new fresh build is reading I hope you gave up on this shitty idea and got a single 1070 or a 1080.

>tfw no Rose gf

Radeon R7 250 2GB?

I see. Im not much of an expert on coolers so I dont really know.

But yeah, thats the nitro one.

-- Intel i7 4770 (w/ stock cooler [I know...] not overclocked)
-- ASUS z87k motherboard
-- ASUS gtx 670 (my 760 started dying on me a few weeks ago)
-- Intel 1tb HDD
-- Corsair hx760 PSU
-- Corsair Vengeance LP ddr3 8gb RAM (x2)
-- Corsair Carbide 300r case
-- Corsair AF 140mm (x3) & 120mm (x1) case fans

I wanted to get an i7 6700k, but I learned I would also have to get a new mobo and ddr4 ram, which significantly runs up the cost.

Would it be better to keep using my old parts and get another Haswell-e cpu and upgrade the other lacking parts or go for the Skylake and 'future-proof' the rig for newer Adobe and Autodesk programs (Photoshop with 30+ hi-res layers and Unreal run like bricks on this build).

>yfw shes actually turned 30 this year

>wants to upgrade to memelake
At least wait for Kaby Lake or Cannon Lake.

The Cryorig H7 is quieter and cooler than the 212 evo while only being $5-10 more.

Are there any good motherboards with USB-C?

Thank you for replying

Out of those cards, Which one is the best? Which one will last the longest?


EVGA GT730 2GB DDR3
EVGA GT710 1GB DDR3
RADEON R7 250 GPU - 1GB 128bit GDDR5

Skylake is a decent chip but coming from your haswell setup, not worth the cost. With your board/chipset, you're pretty much locked in as to what stuff you can upgrade. You have to ask yourself this. What are you doing with this PC? Just gaming? Video editing? Architectural rendering? If not, an E series CPU and setup won't benefit you. If you do have need of more cores, then grab an X99/i7-6800k (6c12t) over a z170/97-6700k(4c8t). Going from your 4770 to 6770k isn't really worth the cost.

a shit load of boards offer USB-C now. Only like 1 or 2 ports of course as USB-C still isn't standard. I think even the antiquated 990FX chipset for AMD has some recent boards out now with USB-3.1/C.

Just go on Newegg, look for your desired chipset, set price range, and find one.

GT 730 and R7 250 looks about the same.
GT 710 is more like a competitor to a R7 240

I would go R7 250

if all you're doing is watching 1080p and browsing, the GT710 is your best option. So long as the card is passively cooled and not some garbage 40mm fan model as they're extremely loud, and the fan is another point of failure for the card. Pic related. They even have the audacity of charging an additional $5 for the worse heatsink and shit fan. If your case has even a single low RPM fan on it, the 710 will barely reach 60C even when doing a lot.

gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GeForce-GT-730-vs-AMD-R7-250/m12582vsm8217

Look here
250 looks like the way to go

He says he is only web browsing and streaming 1080p video. Not gaming. Why give him a card with cooling fans if he is going for longevity? Just something else that will start to grind and stop working after 2 years when the bearings in the fan die. More performance is irrelevant if the user isn't gaming. Passive cooler nvidia card would be the way to go. I'd say the r5 240/230 if they made half way decent passive models.

I forgot about the gaming. 730 and 250 1gb were pretty close in price so I jumped on the 250.

Hey man, thanks for replying
Are you 100% that this card will last many years, and will be able to handle browsing and 1080p YouTube videos?
I really don't wanna buy a new card every year
Additional power is always good, as long as I don't have to compromise on the card's longevity

Whats your choice bro?

Thanks guys for the replies

I've decided I'm going to buy an RX 480.

However, I have an AMD FX-6300 CPU clocked at 3.5Ghz.
Will this be a problem? Is my CPU too "low-tier" or something like that? Will it work well alongside this GPU? I ask because the CPU cost me $120 in 2012 (now sells for $90), and the GPU is $200-300.

GT710 like he said looks good.

What is your motherboard? Post pic/link? What's your cooler like? The FX-6300 isn't the greatest in regards to single core performance (what matters for many games). You have to make up for this with overclocking. The RX480 is essentially a lower wattage r9 390 in regards to gaming performance and while you won't be bottlenecking TOO hard, there will be some reduced performance because of the lack of CPU.

Her channel has been RIP for a year... Why do you do this to me OP?

OH WTF? Oh well at least she was born before the Feminism cancer generation.

Are you sure It'd really handle the browsing and 1080p vids for many years? 40$ for that sounds too good for me lol

If you say yes then I'll probably go for it.. So please consider it

(I'm no expert and I dont wanna throw money away and be disappointed, sorry for all those questions bro)

youtube.com/watch?v=B58ciXUTlA8

I'll probably have some bottleneck but it wont make anything unplayable i believe.

Time to get an i5, pajeet.

yup yup, you can even get an app on your phone that you can sent torrents too and it will start the downloads on the NAS. Theres a pile of apps for it although I barely use any of it aside from the VPN server and downloader for torrents. If you wana know how I am doing it I have a nonfree VPN that I connect to and route all the traffic for torrents through it on the first NIC port and the other port goes to my computer.

What if your fans have no build? Come on man, no fans are quieter than having fans.

>Are you 100% that this card will last many years, and will be able to handle browsing and 1080p YouTube videos?

Yes undoubtedly. I paid $15 brand new for a Geforce 210 way back as a display card for the exact same thing you want out of a card. It lasted me in my backup PC for 3 years, and is currently in my little Sister's PC pushing 2 monitors. Well over 5 years of service now with no issues. Also runs cool.

>Additional power is always good, as long as I don't have to compromise on the card's longevity
Problem is the r7 250 is more power hungry as well. Which necessitates a cooler with a fan. Which provides another point of failure.

So long as you dust out your PC every once in a while so the card can breathe, the GT710 should do you fine.

Here are my specs. I posted them earlier for advice, and /pcbg/ was the reason I decided to go with the RX480.
Note: That 8GB of Ram will now be 16.


>that video
Holy shit, never thought someone would make a video for exactly what I wanted and a cheap-ish CPU.
Cool, though. And nah, I wanna stick with AMD.

not that user but yes. Pic related is the ancient GT210 in my little sister's PC. It powers 1080p no problems. Even bargain bin Intel Celeron/Pentium integrated graphics can drive 1080p. The GT710 should have no problem at all.

My 5 year old low-mid end Amd has no problem with 1440p, the 710 should be good.

It seems like the R9 Fury is a median between the RX480/1060 and the 1070.

But, the R9 Fury is based on the old architecture. I feel guilty buying old architecture. Is there a rational reason not to buy old architecture? Less driver support? Less OC potential? Higher temps?

Is pic related your motherboard? (They also made a revision with it in black). If so, look up guides for overclocking piledriver. (Fairly straight forward. I had an FX-6300 @ 5.0ghz and my FX-9370 @ 5.5ghz both under custom liquid.)

Your motherboard was important because AMD requires a beefy voltage regulation section and decent northbridge cooling so the board doesn't throw up on itself. Even garbage binned FX-6300's can usually hit 4.4ghz @ 1.4v. Absolute max voltage is 1.55v for AMD and that's assuming you have 100% locked Load line calibration. I popped 2 Asus 990FX sabertooth motherboards pushing for 5.7ghz on my FX-9370. 1.7v+ for too long is bad.

Go ahead, get it then
I will obviously not guarantee those +120fps like those overclocked i7 6700k but the modern games 50-80fps are obviously playable.

and to add onto , what cooler/Power supply do you have? Those are VERY important. I'd recommend a Hyper 212 EVO type cooler as the minimum for any decent OC. And if your PSU isn't at least bronze rated and 500w (minimum), I don't recommend OCing at all.

I dont know, but I would just save for a 1070 just to be sure.

Thank you guys
So that's it, I'm going for it
Last final question: Does Windows 10 supports the GT 710?
I don't know how to check those things, I'm sorry for having so many questions lol

No problemo

Here are the win10 drivers for the Gt710
Just download it when you get it

geforce.com/drivers/results/87789

does anyone have a graph comparing 1070 reference/custom cards?

Windows won't download it automatically?

tomshardware.com/forum/id-3047729/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1000-series-megathread-faq-resources.html#17902598

Scroll down to 1070.
Good nvidia gpus are MSI/EVGA/Gigabyte

Im not certain. The link is just to be sure.

OK, thanks a lot man, you really helped me!

Yes, it's my mobo. It's not the black one, it's pic related. I think it's revision 3, the latest one. But I'm not sure.

>look up guides for overclocking piledriver. (Fairly straight forward. I had an FX-6300 @ 5.0ghz)
Cool, I'll try this out.

My PSU is CORSAIR HX750 750W 80+Gold.
The cooler is some Zalman-brand one that is pretty eh.
I know the Hyper 212 EVO is the best, however, I wasn't a fan of the way to install it (with the backplates and stuff). I wanted one I could placed right on top of the CPU.

Your thoughts? Thanks very much.

>+120fps
Nah, don't need that. 60 is fine.

Well cases are largely a personal preference. I'm just pointing out a Full Tower isn't really needed unless you're running stuff like RAID or Watercooling. You can fit most dogs inside a friggin full tower. A mid tower would take up less room, be cheaper and still probably fit everything you want. Like a Rosewill R5
Just make sure your case is big enough for your HSF.

In regards to HSF, most are silent. But if silence is a priority, you picked the right brand.
A heatsink fan is only really important if you're going to overclock your CPU. If you're not going to OC then you might as well buy a GA-H110M-A MOBO as it's only $50.
But if you do wanna OC and possibly run SLI in the future, you can still buy a GA-H170-Gaming 3 or B150M Mortar both around $85. That should be even less in Euros, if you can find a seller for that price.

Be careful using an miniITX board though, it makes building a bit harder.
I'd be interested to hear what work you do that needs 16gb of ram. Maybe CAD?
You can run basic work and windows 10 on a fucking toaster.

>Rose was born on April 5th, 1986.[1] Her earliest known Internet activity comes from 2003, which includes profiles created on sites such as LiveJournal and DeviantArt.

>In 2007, she began to upload videos to her YouTube channel Randytaylor69.[4] In 2011, she created a secondary, game-specific YouTube channel under the name Roseplaysgames.[5] Both accounts ceased activity in 2013.
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Hey guys, anyone have a good link for a pirated windows?

Ok your motherboard should hold up for a half way decent OC. Your Power supply is good as well. Zalman coolers while ugly are actually OK depending on the cooler. Just find your thermal ceiling of what your cooler can handle. Use a program like Prime95 blend test to see how hot your CPU gets at stock. If you're even approaching 60C at stock, the cooler isn't up to the task.

Other than that, you'll be good to go. If you're buying the RX480, save a little more and grab a good cooler in the $50 range. I still have the same giant chunk of aluminum cooler I bought 5 years ago for $90. Money spent on a good cooler is money well spent.

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Getting Roswill cases is bad in EU. An option would be the Fractal Design R5, similar price, but midi.
I picked a Z170 mobo because future OC and the recommendation from the wiki, i won't use SLI though.
Not CAD, but VM's and other shit in general and since RAM isn't that pricey anymore, why not? I' currently on my laptop and i'm using 7506/8109MiB RAM.

Cool man, thanks a lot for your help. What cooler do you have?
I honestly haven't dusted off the inside of my Rig since January, so it's probably struggling. I was playing WoW earlier and my CPU was at 80C and GPU at 90.

Right now I have Chrome open with about 10 tabs, one of them streaming a video on YouTube. The CPU is at 37C. It was at 55 a second ago when I opened up Speccy though, haha.

>Due to USB 3.0 controller limitation, USB 3.0 devices can only be used under Windows OS environment and after the USB 3.0 driver installation.
Should I really trust this information? I can't believe that GNU/Linux don't have a solution for this problem!

Currently have pic related sitting on my 6700k because it's easier to access the RAM slots and pcie locking mechanism. Thermaltake Frio140 Silent. $40, performs a little better than the Hyper 212 EVO, and the heatsink is thinner.

and this is my cooler I retired after 5 years of faithful service. I didn't like the way the fans mounted because the clips would rattle a bit. This is the cooler that held my FX-9370 @ 4.8ghz after I ditched my liquid setup. Thermaltake Frio Extreme.

Thanks, and thanks again your your replies user! Really appreciate it man.
I'm watching a video on how to OC my FX6300. Sounds pretty simple so far.

not a problem. Basic rules of thumb. No more than 1.55v EVER. No more than 62C at an absolute max for 100% load temps. Done and done. Enjoy.