Downloads a terabyte of illegal media every month

>downloads a terabyte of illegal media every month
>feels angry when gets robbed on the street

Are digital pirates hypocrite?

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I don't get robbed because I don't live in a subhuman shithole.

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yes

i would imagine you feel how common niggers feel when they get pulled over screaming racism after robbing the corner store for lotto tickets

b8 here is your reply

>current year
>leaving the house
you deserve it desu senpai

>make unauthorized copies of copyrighted works
>previous copies still exist too
>no direct effect on copyright holder

>get robbed in the street
>no longer have some items because they were stolen

Spot the difference.

Muggers don't make copies of my shit and then leave, you dumb fuck.

>a mugger comes up to you, takes your phone, copies all your images and phone data, makes a copy of your house key, gives them back to you
>you are totally okay with this

My stuff is private data, torrents are public data. Not the same at all, again. Illogical and irrational analogies.

>copying is the same as stealing
hello mpaa

>I don't sell my private possessions or house keys, etc.

>uses software that micro dong provides them / cucks them with
>auto updates, lost files, autistic flat theme
>"I-It's a feature!!!!"
>feels angry when people use GNU/Linux

Are wing dongs stupid?

Torrents making paid data free is the same thing, dumb fuck

This is actually the future, except they won't mug you but steal data off your phone through other means. All those app controlled door locks, security systems, lighting, sprinkler systems, you name it house burglars will want access to turn it all off before they rob your house.

i'm so sorry, op. please tell me where i return the stuff i downloaded

>feels angry when gets robbed on the street
Implying I'm not strapped whenever I leave my avode.

suddenly you have a whole long list of demands of what the mugger is allowed to do with your stuff

a second ago the only issue was that he didn't return it

>roadhog

>he fell for the stealing 1's and 0's meme
You can't steal a pattern of chargers dipshit

>I don't sell my private possessions or house keys, etc.
Lol, so if you do rent your place out it's okay for a homeless person to make a copy your house key without your consent? Are piracyfags this fucking assblastedly retarded?

I'd feel a hell of a lot better if I could just give the robber a copy of my money.

That thing must give amazing blowjobs.

>photocopying is identical to theft
If you did not pay royalties for singing Happy Birthday, you are a THIEF! STOP STEALING BY SINGING HAPPY BIRTHDAY, YOU THIEF!

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Birthday_to_You
>unauthorized public performances of the song are illegal unless royalties are paid

It's the present Google and other companies, and also the government is data-mining you right now and stealing as much information as they can about you.


>and you're ok with this
>but not ok with torrenting

where are you supposed to get lossless music files aside from torrents?

Context matters.

my friend gave me a copy

>an alchemist across the world who you will never meet makes a copy of your shoes out of lead
>get angry about this

>Are anti-piracycucks this fucking assblastedly retarded?
See:

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>digital data
>pattern of 1's and 0's
>your pattern is 111000
So, you're telling me I can't write 111000 down on a piece of paper?

What I mean by that is, for example.

Let's say "ending lives" should not be allowed right? It sounds morally right, right but no it has to be put into context. If a terrorist is on a rampage attacking an airport with guns and grenades, it would be right for the police to end the life of the terrorist right? Context matters.

>Reductio ad absurdum fallacy
I can't believe you make a huge deal when I carve out a sample of microcellular bacteria that make up your organ tissue.

>get robbed
>shoot the robber and get my stuff back

#merica

No, because the nigger didn't make a copy of my wallet, he took the original. Now delete this pointless thread

>Herp derp someone else does something bad so I should be allowed to do something not quite as bad
Remember when you were 4 years old and your parents taught you that this isn't a valid excuse? Maybe they never did, maybe that's why you became a thief.

>butchering you with a knife is equivalent to piracy

Why would you let that thing touch your bare skin

>haha i know the name of some fallacy that means im right hehe!
Nobody fucking cares, nerd. I'll pirate all I want, go fuck yourself you fat fucking piece of shit. Jesus.

except it's the exact context that we began with, it's literally exactly the same thing

you said you would be okay with mugging if they only made copies of your stuff, but when I tell you the potential consequences of this (just as there are consequences of stealing intellectual property for the content creators) you say context matters

what context are you talking about? we have been discussing the exact same thing all along, the reason you're backing off is only because you realized that your statement was retarded in the first place, OF COURSE you wouldn't be okay with a mugger stealing your phone or your keys, even if he only makes a copy of them and leaves you with the originals

>literally

That's the absurdity of the whole issue, that it's not all not even real.

If by getting robbed you mean somebody comes up to me on the street and says he will give me $100, but then changes his mind and runs off, then yes, you are right.

>pc "master race" graphics

Last time I got robbed, the nig just copied all my data from my phone to her laptop and gave me back my device.

I didn't report her as I frequently pirate camrips.

I did feel overpowered though

>making copies of my private data (my personal shit, house keys, etc.)
>making copies of public data (torrents, products, etc.)

Not the same context.

>some mugger half a world away writes down a series of ones and zeroes, copying the exact same sequence of ones and zeroes i wrote down the other day
>they use it, and would not have used my sequence of ones and zeroes if they hadn't been able to copy it
>I get upset about this

>how do i strawman correctly asked OP

Anyways its a price issue, fucking media is over priced.
I stopped pirating music once I got a streaming subscription.
I assume some people curbed their piracy because of Netflix.
It is all about price, $20 for a bluray is stupid, $5 for a rental on the play store is just as stupid.

Exactly, that's the reality of it. Any other view of it is absurdity.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowling_v._United_States

In "Dowling v. United States, 473 U.S. 207 (1985)", the United States Supreme Court decided that copyright infringement was not theft.

If you think that you can prove that copyright infringement is theft, go do so in court.

>$20 for a bluray is stupid

blurays used to be like $40-50. i have never bought a bluray in my life because the prices were/are fucking absurd.

For fucks sake.

except you said you would be okay with mugging if they only made copies of your stuff, that's the context

i've been waiting for you to take that back and acknowledge how that is a retarded statement

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowling_v._United_States

In "Dowling v. United States, 473 U.S. 207 (1985)", the United States Supreme Court decided that copyright infringement was not theft.

If you think that you can prove that copyright infringement is theft, go do so in court.

If they made copies of videos that I had made to show other people then yeah, why not?

You are paying for the license to use media, not the media itself.

Not sure how today's piratebabbies don't understand this. A license is a singular non-transferable, unreproduceable entity in many cases, unless the license specifically gives you permission to do something, you cannot use that data unless you pay for your own license.

Is it *illegal*? Sort of. Is it wrong? Yep.

Pay for your shit or use freely licensed media/software, kids.

Just because I'm a hypocrite doesn't mean I'm wrong.

So it isn't worth the cost to you (and most media to me). Just do something else with your time. That is the whole point of cost/benefit analysis. It isn't "This costs too much. I'll just make a copy of it and enjoy it." It is "This costs too much, I'm going to do something else with my time."

>Telling people why they're dumb to pirate shit
>They will continue to do it anyway because they don't give a shit
>Posting in a troll thread with both sides trolling the other

was that meant as a reply to someone else? how is that even remotely relevant to my post?
what gives you the right to dictate what the mugger does with your videos? do you respect what sony and mgm want you to do with their content? would you not download a movie if it came from a leak before the release date? in this case the studio had no intention of showing it to other people at the time

"Stealing" 1's and 0's is wrong but "murdering" 1's and 0's in video games is ok?


>absurdity

its only gotten worse.

since now your BR collection is depreciated and now you gotta buy UHD stuff, which of course requires a new player

is it any wonder why people are flocking to netflix and other streaming services.
I can't remember the last movie I bought, its just not worth it.
I go to see movies in theatres maybe 3-5 times a year and thats it.

You're right. When did I say that? I was demonstrating how that manchild's argument was flawed. However, if I were to make a mold casting of your penis, and sell it online as "tiny penis dildo" with your name on it, I wouldn't be stealing, right? I'm only making a copy of your penis. Therefore, it isn't piracy.

terrible comparison.
anyway, $0.10 have been deposited in your Shiiling Inc. account

Nothing does, in the same way that Sony and mgm don't have a right to dictate what I do with their content.

>in this case
Back yourself further into a corner if you must

Did your brain short-circuit or something at the truth? Your post makes zero fucking sense.

What's wrong with his faaaaaaace

That's the point, it does make zero fucking sense, what you're arguing, that torrenting, which is simply making a copy of the binary code (1's and 0's), is stealing. You're right it makes no fucking sense to say that downloading torrents is stealing, you can't steal sequences of 1's and 0's.

>You are paying for the license to use media, not the media itself.
I hate this bullshit so much.

Digital goods are becoming a larger and larger portion of our lives (music, film, tv, software)
So why can't I fucking resell/give any of that shit away ?

Steam can generate codes that let me redeem them for products, why can't I generate a code that lets me give software/games away from my library ? When the code gets redeemed the item gets removed from my library and added to theirs, wow so fucking hard.

If I have a large library of stuff in say iTunes what happens to it if I pass away ?

>you can't steal sequences of 1's and 0's.
You can be in possession of 1's and 0's in a certain sequence for which you have not acquired legally.
That information represents IP and you need to pay to access that IP.

I feel we are going down the road of semantics and splitting hairs over bullshit.

Publishers often refer to copying they don't approve of as “piracy.” In this way, they imply that it is ethically equivalent to attacking ships on the high seas, kidnapping and murdering the people on them. Based on such propaganda, they have procured laws in most of the world to forbid copying in most (or sometimes all) circumstances. (They are still pressuring to make these prohibitions more complete.)

If you don't believe that copying not approved by the publisher is just like kidnapping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word “piracy” to describe it. Neutral terms such as “unauthorized copying” (or “prohibited copying” for the situation where it is illegal) are available for use instead. Some of us might even prefer to use a positive term such as “sharing information with your neighbor.”

I didn't say it was stealing. I said it was maybe illegal because it's not stealing 1s and 0s, which is CLEAR if you would have FUCKING READ WHAT I WROTE. I said it was maybe illegal because it's about LICENSING. YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR ONES AND ZEROES. YOU ARE PAYING FOR A LICENSE TO USE A PIECE OF SOFTWARE. Yes, that software is ones and zeroes, but guess what: you can own a sequence of ones and zeroes. Or do you want to put all your private information out on the internet for everyone to see? Come on, it's just ones and zeroes! Everyone can take it, it's perfectly legal!

No. People that create software/media have a right to distribute that software/media how they want, and the right to use it is done through a license, which you buy and gives you the right to use that sequence of ones and zeroes how the license states you can.

I'm not sure how much simpler I can make this. Of course, you're all just a bunch of kids out for the thrill of pirating software, and don't give a shit about what is right and wrong.

Grow up and don't come back until you understand right and wrong.

me on the left

why the sad mood, vagina face?

You're conflating "illegal" with "wrong", or at least you've said that it's illegal and tried to use that to argue that it's wrong.

What the law *is* should have no bearing on a discussion about what the law *should be*.

Is it illegal? Often, yes.
Is it wrong? Debatable.
Is it the same as stealing? No.
Is it the same as attacking ships on the high seas? Also no.

>conflating

I posted this on Sup Forums but maybe you guys are faster.

How does this site works?
Is this some sort of IPTV?
When is Netflix or the copyrigth owners complain about this?

Its like if someone own a big server and is streaming a lot of movies to anyone.
Site is in spanish but if you right click to get the url and stream with MPV you can change the language and change subtitles.


tv-vip.com

>Oh no, I'm only making a "copy" of your tissue. Don't worry about it.
That analogy would only make sense if you took my DNA from a place I left in public, PCR amplified it, and then gave it away.

And I would be okay with that. Because I don't "own" my specific pattern of nucleobase pairs. I own the specific pattern that exists within my person, but copying that sequence from another sequence found in public isn't stealing from me.

> conflate v.
> 3. To fail to properly distinguish or keep separate (things); to treat (them) as equivalent.

This is what I meant, but I guess the poster above wasn't quite doing that, as evidenced by
> Is it *illegal*? Sort of. Is it wrong? Yep.
Anyway there was not enough of a distinction.

how do people expect me to respect distribution rights for software if they're not even able to patent it?

Nobody is taking anything retard

heres my response op

youtube.com/watch?v=anjrgxb4K0k

I'm selling this unique string of letters

Dhsksisjdhduenxlppwodifundben

Anyone who copy and pasted it is going to be charged with stealing

Dhsksisjdhduenxlppwodifundben

Dhsksisjdhduenxlppwodifundben

>>feels angry when gets robbed on the street
>implying I don't carry a glock .40 problem solver

that girl seem quite hot, actually

>Dhsksisjdhduenxlppwodifundben

Joke's on you. Not only do I have a copy on my hard drive now, I'm uploading it to all my posts for the rest of the night.

Golden words spoken there. Freedom of expression shouldn't have a price tag and the record companies dun goofed with their greed. It's not the actors or actresses that bitch about it [because they already got the big cut] but the greedy label companies like SQNY that already make enough money just wanting to jew extra pennies out of everyone.

Pirates don't care about cloning something that can be digitally cloned without affecting the original. You can't pirate an automobile. The logical argument between physical and digital theft as analogies is flawed. It's why "copyright infringement" as a term has to be walked on egg shells.

The production of most modern media isn't free. Pirating the newest Avengers-movie and trying to argue that "it's just 1's and 0's, how can you steal a string of numbers!?" is fucking retarded, you just want to have free shit without repurcussions. Which I don't blame you for, don't get me wrong, I do that too - but don't act like there's another reason.

On the other hand, there is some material that has no reason for a pricetag, and that's kind of subjective, but it's where I draw the line.
I shouldn't have to pay €50 to get the order of the questions in a uni-course, when the rest of the information in the book is available everywhere else for free.
>hurr it's been laid out in the most learning-effective way
well I'll be laying it out in the most price-effective way :^)

I wouldn't be angry if a mugger came along and made a perfect replica of all the money in my wallet, leaving the originals intact

I would be angry if a mugger came along and physically removed the money from my wallet, leaving me with nothing

this pretty much

you rip physical CD's dumbass

1. I'm totally fine with getting robbed, as long as someone really needs the money.

2. """Pirating""" software means taking software from multinational companies wich makes millions of dollars. They'll get over it. And honestly the world would be better off without them.

Dave Grohl is a fucking tool and sellout who cares what he says
>the worst member in Nirvana (mediocre band at best) so he was forced to become the bass player
>Kurt Cobain decides to Kurt Cobain himself
>Dave Grohl uses the publicity and street cred and makes an even worse band, only with him as the "guitarist" and singer
>no surprise it's all very simple easy to digest radio rock because he wasn't one of the band members with talent (he was the bass player after all)


also he sucks at guitar
>"let's see you do better"
I don't play the guitar

>>downloads a terabyte of illegal media every month
>>feels angry when gets robbed on the street
You fucking stupid.

What is a robbery? -- This when the one LOSTS while other GETS. Who and what losts when i copy from server a thing?

What is a bying? When someone LOSTS money, while other losts a ting. Whan who losts when i pay for a COPY? -- Selling of copy -- is the robbery, for i lost money while "seller" lost nothing.

Sory my engrish. I hope you get the idea.

Figures from what you type, mongloid

>Is it wrong? Yep.
Nope. It's right because i'm keeping money in the local economy.
In your opinion it may be wrong, but in the opinion of my own people it is good.
So in the end it's a thing of choosing whose opinion is more relevant, and yours obviously will never be.
Ergo it's right.

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