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What's best why to backup your OS in case you want to migrate to new SSD/HDD? DD,clonzilla or rsync?
Hunter Brown
rsync/tar/squashfs if *nix ntfsclone if windows
Owen James
All of them would work but clonezilla is made specifically for that and would be the easier, safest option.
Josiah Bell
why doesn't windows have a good clipboard like linux has? are windows users retarded? how hard is it to make a nice little clipboard
Logan Lee
Best DE/DE+WM for Debian? Have been using Gnome for a while now but the titlebars are too large for my taste. Would be using KDE but it's buggy as hell.
Christopher Hughes
You can change the height with gtk.css
Ethan Gutierrez
>Have been using Gnome for a while now but the titlebars are too large for my taste.
I tried that but it isn't working. If I did something wrong pls tell me (image). Thank you I will try that.
Cooper Jenkins
>ocd prevents me from using anything but minimal gentoo >just want a comfy environment to write my erlang
Asher Clark
streamlining so users aren't "confused" since everything is done in a very binary way.
Windows despite being the most used desktop OS ever doesn't have a lot of "neat" features that other OSes have even though Microsoft could easily implement them. Especially features found in various Linux environments which unlike other OSes (like OS X) aren't encumbered by weird patents protected by an army of lawyers
Nothing stopped Memesoft from implementing >Advanced clipboard like you already mentioned >Super+LMB to move windows around and Super+RMB to resize windows >Virtual workspaces
Which were present in X since the 90s
Jackson Thomas
Seems like they changed it in gnome 3.20, it's slightly different now try this:
/* shrink headerbars */ headerbar { min-height: 0px; padding-left: 2px; /* same as childrens vertical margins for nicer proportions */ padding-right: 2px; background-color: #2d2d2d; }
headerbar entry, headerbar spinbutton, headerbar button, headerbar separator { margin-top: 0px; /* same as headerbar side padding for nicer proportions */ margin-bottom: 0px; }
/* shrink ssd titlebars */ .default-decoration { min-height: 0; /* let the entry and button drive the titlebar size */ padding: 0px background-color: #2d2d2d; }
.default-decoration .titlebutton { min-height: 0px; /* tweak these two props to reduce button size */ min-width: 0px; }
This can of course can easily be explained by the fact that Microsoft has a de facto monopoly over the Desktop market and thus has no incentive to compete with other vendors.
Benjamin Allen
but like how hard would it be to make one? I made one long time ago in python with tkinter but it worked like shit. in windows 10 you have that bar thing on the right that comes out when you press a shortcut like super + A, how hard would it be to make it so when you press some shortcut the same bar comes out on the right of the screen but it just has all the items you copied
I never programmed for windows, you would need to do it in C# right?
I'm just saying it's not hard, all other clipboards on windows are useless shit.
Angel Howard
"""""""""slightly""""""""" Anyways, thanks a lot it actually worked.
Wyatt Thompson
kek no problem
Austin Clark
Programming for independent C# applications isn't too hard, but programming for the Windows API is an absolutely massive pain in the ass.
Women matter for hoovering up matter from my penis, yes.
Jace Ward
delet this
Daniel Rivera
There is no "best DE for [distribution]", idiot.
Grayson Reed
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Isaac King
Reminder that Arch being lightweight is a meme and their users cucked.
>Arch is the *opposite* of a user-centric freedom. The opinion of users >has no weight here. Only the developers have an opinion, and there >aren't voting systems as there are in Debian. Technical decisions are >made based on merit via consensus among the developers, not popularity.
How can I turn a gif into a webm without loosing quality (ffmpeg)?
Angel Jackson
It's *nix alright. What's the difference? Do you know if it save as disk image? or only the used data?
Christopher Harris
>*nix >*nix What's up with this *nix cancer? >>>/apple/
Alexander Thomas
U*nix Lu*nix
Grayson Reyes
Someone pls invite koriwi to #flt
Camden Anderson
>What's the difference? rsync: copy each file from one place to another, preserving everything (optionally, but typically), using this allows your target to be a different filesystem, for example. rsync is also good for updating an existing backup, as it will only copy data that isn't already up to date in the backup tar: simple, well supported method of turning many files into a single file or stream, if you need to place a backup onto a non-unix filesystem like ntfs, this is one way you can do so without losing any attributes squashfs: a compressed, read-only filesystem, commonly used with livecd's, has the advantage of being mountable with random-accessibility
Kayden Mitchell
GNU isn't Unix, nor is Linux, both written from scratch. The only "UNIX" around is OS X. #flt is #sqt, #flt doesn't exist.
Adrian Robinson
Clonezilla images the entire disk but I'm not sure what you want to accomplish exactly. If you want to migrate everything to another disk, Clonezilla is fine but you shouldn't use it for regular backups (daily backups for example).
John White
#flt is now invite only? That's the point where we srsly should remove it from OP.
Angel Cook
>rsync I see, so this is best if I have something that needs to be backed up frequently and stay updated. But it won't be in compressed format, and the backup media file system need to be the same. >tar Will it preserve boot flags? and restoring is simple unpack? For example if HDD is 1TB and it's used 30GB will the disk image be 1TB or 30 GB?
Ethan Bell
It would be 30GB.
Aiden Richardson
Then clonzilla is front end for dd?
Ethan Myers
What's the SWAP rule again? 1/4 of RAM?
Zachary Morris
No, they are different things. dd literally only copies data, it's a very simple program and it can be used for regular backups, disk cloning, etc but depending on what you want to do there are better alternatives, if you want to have an easily accessible backup on an external disk, rsync is better. If you are changing computers and want to clone the entire disk, clonezilla is better.
Daniel Sullivan
not sure if current systems even need swap maybe for hybernating
Cooper Cruz
What's a good partition scheme? for easy system backup and fixing? / /boot /home /swap
Luis Wilson
/boot - 50mb / - 10gb, well more then needed but i dont know if you are going to use multilib /home - rest of space /swap 0b
/swap is no longer needed if you have more then 2gb of ram
Adam Mitchell
What's the best distro for beginners?
Jason Flores
>/boot - 50mb That is a bit on the small size.
Joseph Moore
arch
Eli Smith
I meant as mount points not partition size.
Zachary Jackson
Arch because the great wiki
Michael Sullivan
I can fit 3-5 compressed kernels on that, or 2-3 uncompressed It is more then enough.Most XZ compressed kernels are 5-15mb depending on customization
So, again, read post. Each of those are mount points
Leo Cooper
Why do people use a separate /boot partition? Having /home as a separate partition I can understand but /boot is entirely useless.
Asher Stewart
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Levi Gonzalez
There are GNU/Linux-based UNIX operating systems. OS X has to do with UNIX System V as much as BSDs.
Chase Jenkins
unix is a trademark by apple tho
Zachary Ortiz
So you can wipe your / if you fuck it up and not have to deal with your bootloader.
Dylan Hernandez
If you have a encrypted system, you need to have boot separate so it can remain unencrypted.
Isaac Gutierrez
Yes, so you agree with the mount point? Easier boot-loader fixing.
Michael Stewart
No. You can have encrypted /boot. You can have a keyfile on say a usb drive,which then unlocks your boot loader partition,in its absence it boots to another drive/partition, or it just fails to boot
Brody Davis
How often do you wipe the root partition that installing the bootloader (which takes seconds) makes any difference whatsoever.
Correct, also RAID, but most people don't use either.
Wyatt Powell
>this is best if I have something that needs to be backed up frequently and stay updated. But it won't be in compressed format yes >the backup media file system need to be the same. no, but it does need to be a *nix one to preserve everything >Will it preserve boot flags? these examples backup files, not partitions or disks, boot flags and boot sectors are outside of their scope >restoring is simple unpack? yes
clonezilla will use dd only as a last resort (to backup filesystems it doesn't recognize), but in most cases the backup will not be any larger than the size of the /used/ space on the disk
Gavin Powell
Does anyone he use SELinux?
Landon Jenkins
that's not how you spell Novell
Elijah Smith
All you've done there is move /boot to the flashdrive.
Gabriel Martinez
Why not put everything on / then? Your reasoning for not doing it outweigh your reasoning for doing it on other partitions.
/boot /home / can all be on the same mount point, there is no reason for it to be on multiple partitions this decade.
>spend ages trying to configure acpi events for acpid so I can suspend the system on lid close >absolutely nothing works >no real indication as to why >don't have /proc/acpi/event but that's deprecated now apparently >started acpi.service
Guess I'll have to do it manually. Will laptop-mode-tools help at all? I love my system but some things about it are an absolute pain and cli power management is one of them.
David Wood
>"Apple has countersued, asking a judge to declare that the trademark is invalid, because the term Unix has become generic. " hilarious
Literally Apple: oh.. uh.. well everyone does it, so it must be ok!
Christopher Young
no... root=UUID lvm= keyfile=LABEL=PENDRIVE:/key
Fill in as needed
I've used arch for 9 years
Luis Hill
Did you read the Arch Wiki article?
Aaron Clark
A separate home partition allows for a complete reinstall without losing your data, something not necessary because you should have backups anyway but useful, however having a separate boot partition is completely useless unless you either encrypt the entire disk or use software raid, which isn't common whatsoever. Either this is a remnant from 2004 or whatever when having a separate boot partition was actually a good practice or it's from people that installed Arch and think because it says so on the wiki it's necessary. Also it doesn't make "fixing the bootloader" easier like someone said earlier, that's bullshit.
Justin Baker
Im not fucking arguing againt that, fucking read the god damn chain. He's arguing not having a /boot partition, when in reality you dont NEED to have a /boot, /home partition, according to his ideology
READ
Anthony Garcia
Then it never broke with you and had to start over?
Ryan Sanchez
>A separate home partition allows for a complete reinstall without losing your data not sure how the two correlate you can easily reinstall your OS without deleting the contents of the home folder regardless of whether or not it's on the same volume as the rest of the OS
Jayden Powell
I read it you fucking moron. I'm saying a separate /home partition actually has some uses, others don't.
READ.
Jayden Jenkins
Obviously but some distros installers automatically recognize the /home partition during the installing process something useful for beginners. Not everybody uses Arch.
Gabriel Hughes
It didnt "break". It "stopped" working beause i didnt read changelog when big things happened. Oh lawdy gee, pop that flash drive in and boot that bitchass liveusb and downgrade a pacman snapshot and boot back in and read what major changes have happened.
I have never had to start over,outside of say, the first 3 months using it
Tyler Cox
lol why is sh symlinked to bash on arch? how does it make sense? >ftw writing portable scripts so they run as fast as possible, ... except on arch
Joseph Perez
i just object to how you wrote it as if it simply wasn't possible to reinstall without losing everything on the same volume as the OS it may line up with what people expect, but people won't learn anything if they're only ever given what they already expect
Grayson Russell
It's actually worse, look what python is linked to.
Connor Reyes
>A separate home partition allows for a complete reinstall without losing your data Just pop up the installation media? and install?
Jose Sanders
Why all the Arch hate all out of the sudden? I thought Arch is Sup Forums's preferred distro?
Julian Diaz
>downgrade a pacman snapshot you mean chroot, and wipe what your package manager poops.
Wyatt Miller
>I thought Arch is Sup Forums's preferred distro? No, it's the preferred distro of a bunch of loud and overbearing faggots.
Wyatt Bell
Sup Forums is running gentoo, not arch
Dylan Morris
>archwomen
Alexander Cook
You're right, I should've worded it differently.
For example, during the Ubuntu installation when you reach the "Erase entire disk and install Ubuntu" step you can select "Something else" and something like this will appear, all you have to do is uncheck the format option on the /home partition. Ubuntu will do a fresh install but will keep the /home partition unchanged.
Anthony Rodriguez
NO I fucking dont There are a FUCK TON of helpers that create a list of programs you are installing, and will downgrade them for what ever reason you see fit.